I know it sounds way less catchy in the meme, but imo it’s worth being explicit and saying “child rapists” instead - someone who’s attracted to children but has morals and won’t act on it (I’d guess this is many or even most of them) deserves therapy and compassion, not death
I think you misread what I said as trying to protect child rapists - please reread it, I absolutely agree rapists like epstein and the pieces of shit he enabled deserve the wall. I’m saying people who were born attracted to children won’t all act on it, the same way you (presumably) can find someone attractive and not rape them, and the ones who aren’t rapists don’t deserve hate.
By conflating pedophilia and child abuse you give cover to child abusers. Most of the time children are abused because they're vulnerable. It's actually the only reason we have statutory rape/abuse material laws.
MAGAT pedophile enthusiast are Nazis. Nazi’s ain’t got no humanity but if that’s your conclusion when we attack pedophiles then you understand the problem because you said that not us
It'll never be done because t's not a problem eugenics can fix.
It's like saying if we killed everyone who has a foot fetish, no one would be into feet anymore.
A better solution would be to allow people who haven't harmed a child the opportunity to seek help without destroying their lives.
People like Trump don't do it because they find children sexy. They do it because they get off on completely destroying the most vulnerable with impunity. The more damaging, the better it feels.
Always keep in mind that pedophilia is not a choice. It is a sexual orientation that cannot be healed or changed. Just like homosexuality. Do you want to throw homosexuals in the shredder, too?
to be clear, it is not a sexual orientation, at least not yet; it is a paraphilic disorder (a fetish that either 1. brings harm to self or others if satisfied, or 2. causes the bearer distress).
also to be fair, homosexuality used to be listed as a "sexual deviation". our standards on what is considered a sexual orientation versus a paraphilia may change with time; case in point: pederasty was a socially-acceptable thing in ancient greece and rome.
The labeling does not change the fact that the person does not having it voluntary. The key difference is just that one is (usually) between consenting adults, and the other is not.
well, technically, that difference is what separates paraphilias from paraphilic disorders.
that being said, i am in complete agreement that it is not voluntary, and that bit is a commonality between sexual orientations and fetishes - i did not choose to be sexually attracted to men, nor did i choose to be sexually attracted to dragons.
Indeed I meant castration. Remove the compulsions while leaving the person alive and not having taxpayers pay to jail or monitor them the rest of their lives.
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felsiq@piefed.zip · 43 pts · 110d
I know it sounds way less catchy in the meme, but imo it’s worth being explicit and saying “child rapists” instead - someone who’s attracted to children but has morals and won’t act on it (I’d guess this is many or even most of them) deserves therapy and compassion, not death
Formfiller@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 110d
wtf would someone please think of the pedophiles? That’s your stance wtf all those Epstein pedos deserve to die GFY
felsiq@piefed.zip · 15 pts · 110d
I think you misread what I said as trying to protect child rapists - please reread it, I absolutely agree rapists like epstein and the pieces of shit he enabled deserve the wall. I’m saying people who were born attracted to children won’t all act on it, the same way you (presumably) can find someone attractive and not rape them, and the ones who aren’t rapists don’t deserve hate.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 109d
By conflating pedophilia and child abuse you give cover to child abusers. Most of the time children are abused because they're vulnerable. It's actually the only reason we have statutory rape/abuse material laws.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 109d
Fuck precision in language, amirite?
Holyginz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
Dude, please use your brain instead of just going with your gut reaction. Going with gut reactions is a big reason why so much is fucked up.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 107d
Shit is fucked up because we’ve allowed a group of pedophile Zionists to destroy the west and horde all the assets
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 110d
Whoa! Can you just say that you want to feed Republicans through a wood chipper?
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
I know which "Republican" to start with.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 110d
Your bank account has been seized.
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 110d
Joke's on you, there's nothing to seize!
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 110d
MAGAT pedophile enthusiast are Nazis. Nazi’s ain’t got no humanity but if that’s your conclusion when we attack pedophiles then you understand the problem because you said that not us
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 109d
That was the point I was making, in the form of a joke, yes.
Oka@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 110d
Trying to erase a whole group of people doesnt work.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 110d
Not with that attitude!
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 109d
It doesn't erase them, if anything, it augments their surface.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 110d
Boo!
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 110d
The sooner we start, the sooner the deed's done.
village604@adultswim.fan · 14 pts · 110d
It'll never be done because t's not a problem eugenics can fix.
It's like saying if we killed everyone who has a foot fetish, no one would be into feet anymore.
A better solution would be to allow people who haven't harmed a child the opportunity to seek help without destroying their lives.
People like Trump don't do it because they find children sexy. They do it because they get off on completely destroying the most vulnerable with impunity. The more damaging, the better it feels.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 109d
Always keep in mind that pedophilia is not a choice. It is a sexual orientation that cannot be healed or changed. Just like homosexuality. Do you want to throw homosexuals in the shredder, too?
HatchetHaro@pawb.social · 4 pts · 108d
to be clear, it is not a sexual orientation, at least not yet; it is a paraphilic disorder (a fetish that either 1. brings harm to self or others if satisfied, or 2. causes the bearer distress).
also to be fair, homosexuality used to be listed as a "sexual deviation". our standards on what is considered a sexual orientation versus a paraphilia may change with time; case in point: pederasty was a socially-acceptable thing in ancient greece and rome.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
The labeling does not change the fact that the person does not having it voluntary. The key difference is just that one is (usually) between consenting adults, and the other is not.
HatchetHaro@pawb.social · 2 pts · 107d
well, technically, that difference is what separates paraphilias from paraphilic disorders.
that being said, i am in complete agreement that it is not voluntary, and that bit is a commonality between sexual orientations and fetishes - i did not choose to be sexually attracted to men, nor did i choose to be sexually attracted to dragons.
BrickEater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 109d
Womp womp poor "MAPS" too bad their "sexuality" is aimed at fucking minors. Once again PEDOS #1 at being the only harmful "sexuality".
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 109d
I never rated harmfulness or lack of consent. I just quoted a fact about being caught in a type of sexuality.
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 109d
im not sure if this is true.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 109d
There are also people who are not sure that the world is round.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 110d
Gonna need commercial size
Reygle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 110d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 110d
LETS GOOOOOO!
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 110d
yeah that's not painful enough.
dan1101@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 110d
Sterilization also seems like a good option
rekabis@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 110d
Sterilization does nothing except preventing babby from being born. And most of these subhumans are also old… like, grandfather old.
The term you are likely reaching for is castration.
That is effective, especially if you remove everything; both twig and berries.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 108d
Indeed I meant castration. Remove the compulsions while leaving the person alive and not having taxpayers pay to jail or monitor them the rest of their lives.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 110d
They all must die