The question is not which person to vote for in the general election. The question is also not why did a better person not win the primary.
The question is why is politics such a mess that we are here in the first place?
The answer is that it must be always be this bad; it’s been this way for centuries. And if people think it was somehow better at an earlier stage, because different issues and people were around, then I envy their conviction
The question is also not why did a better person not win the primary.
Because consultancy firm Fight Agency handpicked and trained Graham Platner for their million dollar campaign as their pet project. He's not some random oyster farmer who just decided to go into politics.
The question is why is politics such a mess that we are here in the first place?
The problem with "choosing the lesser evil" led to the "evil" gaining acceptance and more foot hold, as they shift ever closer to being downright evil.
If you read the NYT article they mention three women but only ever talk about one woman's experience and that woman happens to be connected to the Heritage Foundation. Clear as day what is happening here.
Let's also not forget the republicans rape children or unconditionally follow people who do.
woman happens to be connected to the Heritage Foundation. Clear as day what is happening here.
And they dated for years! Wow, he's such an accomodating guy, willing to comprimise!! Love to see you chime in to remind everyone women lie about abuse. Maybe there's a reason the liberal women who are mentioned but not discussed at length too, but no it's probably because he's itty bitty innocent and its allll liesssssss
lol so i'm supposed to believe the guy who got ptsd from killing people for the usa is redeemable, but this woman is 100% unreliable and irrideemable for being republican?
She previously worked for the heritage foundation? Yeh and platner was previously a fucking us marine, they sound like a perfect match tbh
It was something that stuck with her through the years, Ms. Fifield said.
“He said this a lot: If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them,” she recalled, saying that he added that it would not be in “a sexual way, not in a gay way.”
“He was like, I would rape them to show them that I’m dominant,” she said.
Asked about those remarks, a Platner campaign official did not dispute them. A friend who knew Mr. Platner and Ms. Fifield during that period said the comments sounded out of character
the amount of time i am seeing people defend this guy is ridiculous
Lol, were you out there claiming the misogynisric reddit comments weren't a bad sign? Got some of your own? Never unpacked maybe?
Look, when women are crowing about how a guy "never hit them" over tense shit like this, he was being a fence sitter on the subject of beating them, & they were trying to justify the situation to stay alive
A seasoned internet denizen would immediately synthesize the sensory information you have into "oh that guy doesn't give a fuck", but thanks for grading my post. Yes, I come online & write absolutely anything I want.
You never know the guy personally, so there's always risk. But Platner and his wife have been honestly adressing all allegations. I'd rather take my chances with someone that supports all the right policies than with someone "safe" that doesn't.
... he honestly addressed the nazi tattoo? Cause I saw a politician's response to that, rather than an honest response.
Listen, people being skeptical about the Blackrock Mercenary with the now-covered nazi tattoo that can speak pretty sounds like a pretty reasonable stance to take
Nah, man. I'm saying the character of a person is relevant to their candidacy. There are lots of great progressive and DSA endorsed candidates this cycle. Platner doesn't need to be the guy that every one circles around
Continuing to support bourgeois parties will never result in proletarian emancipation. Supporting a violent war criminal with Nazi tattoos is what voting blue no matter who has led to.
Platner is a former imperialist boot, and does have Nazi tattoos, and continuing to support the democrats over any worker-forward parties will not advance the interests of the working classes. These are my claims, I am not OP, and throwing petty schoolyard insults at me rather than responding to my actual claims isn't going to help anything.
No idea what you're insinuating with the caviar bit.
43 Comments
limer@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 84d
The question is not which person to vote for in the general election. The question is also not why did a better person not win the primary.
The question is why is politics such a mess that we are here in the first place?
The answer is that it must be always be this bad; it’s been this way for centuries. And if people think it was somehow better at an earlier stage, because different issues and people were around, then I envy their conviction
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 84d
Because consultancy firm Fight Agency handpicked and trained Graham Platner for their million dollar campaign as their pet project. He's not some random oyster farmer who just decided to go into politics.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 84d
You realize that the primary hasn't happened yet, right? It's not until next Tuesday.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 83d
My friend, there are places right now that are doing it better.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 83d
The problem with "choosing the lesser evil" led to the "evil" gaining acceptance and more foot hold, as they shift ever closer to being downright evil.
DancingBear@midwest.social · 2 pts · 83d
Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
this just proves these accustions are fake and made up by the republican mafia
YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
If you read the NYT article they mention three women but only ever talk about one woman's experience and that woman happens to be connected to the Heritage Foundation. Clear as day what is happening here.
Let's also not forget the republicans rape children or unconditionally follow people who do.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 82d
And they dated for years! Wow, he's such an accomodating guy, willing to comprimise!! Love to see you chime in to remind everyone women lie about abuse. Maybe there's a reason the liberal women who are mentioned but not discussed at length too, but no it's probably because he's itty bitty innocent and its allll liesssssss
lol so i'm supposed to believe the guy who got ptsd from killing people for the usa is redeemable, but this woman is 100% unreliable and irrideemable for being republican?
She previously worked for the heritage foundation? Yeh and platner was previously a fucking us marine, they sound like a perfect match tbh
the amount of time i am seeing people defend this guy is ridiculous
the article btw, since seemingly no one is linking it https://archive.md/zDww0
valar@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 84d
Why isn't there a better candidate then?
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 84d
You mean like Maureen Galindo? Because the Fight Agency consultancy "left" launches smear campaigns against every leftist who is actually organic.
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 84d
For the same reason theres no anti genocide party in the US
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 83d
There are, like PSL! They are just kept away from the levers of power.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 84d
Because USA sucks?
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 84d
People could vote for Costello.
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 84d
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 84d
When you can't attack his policies, attack his character. Works every time.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 84d
"Trump is going to save America by starting no more wars and bringing jobs back to the people!"
vapor_body@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 84d
Lol, were you out there claiming the misogynisric reddit comments weren't a bad sign? Got some of your own? Never unpacked maybe?
Look, when women are crowing about how a guy "never hit them" over tense shit like this, he was being a fence sitter on the subject of beating them, & they were trying to justify the situation to stay alive
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 83d
vapor_body@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 83d
A seasoned internet denizen would immediately synthesize the sensory information you have into "oh that guy doesn't give a fuck", but thanks for grading my post. Yes, I come online & write absolutely anything I want.
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 83d
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 84d
Yeah, man. "The character of elected representatives isn't relevant to how they'll govern" is gonna be a tough sell, man.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 84d
You never know the guy personally, so there's always risk. But Platner and his wife have been honestly adressing all allegations. I'd rather take my chances with someone that supports all the right policies than with someone "safe" that doesn't.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 84d
... he honestly addressed the nazi tattoo? Cause I saw a politician's response to that, rather than an honest response.
Listen, people being skeptical about the Blackrock Mercenary with the now-covered nazi tattoo that can speak pretty sounds like a pretty reasonable stance to take
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 83d
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
I'm not watching a 16min interview for you and your timestamp had nothing to do with the tattoo. Try again
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 83d
DancingBear@midwest.social · -2 pts · 83d
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Nah, man. I'm saying the character of a person is relevant to their candidacy. There are lots of great progressive and DSA endorsed candidates this cycle. Platner doesn't need to be the guy that every one circles around
DancingBear@midwest.social · 0 pts · 83d
DancingBear@midwest.social · -6 pts · 84d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 83d
Continuing to support bourgeois parties will never result in proletarian emancipation. Supporting a violent war criminal with Nazi tattoos is what voting blue no matter who has led to.
DancingBear@midwest.social · -5 pts · 83d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 83d
What evidence runs counter to the fact that supporting bourgeois parties will never empower the proletariat?
DancingBear@midwest.social · -6 pts · 83d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 83d
Do you think you're convincing anyone with petty insults?
DancingBear@midwest.social · -6 pts · 83d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 83d
Platner is a former imperialist boot, and does have Nazi tattoos, and continuing to support the democrats over any worker-forward parties will not advance the interests of the working classes. These are my claims, I am not OP, and throwing petty schoolyard insults at me rather than responding to my actual claims isn't going to help anything.
No idea what you're insinuating with the caviar bit.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 83d
Least juvenile Platner supporter
VeryVito@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 83d
Alleged rapist vs confirmed rapist? I’ll choose the alleged for now, and work to replace him if/when confirmation occurs.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 83d
Better to organize in working class parties than continue to prop up bourgeois parties.
VeryVito@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 83d
Sure, but right now, we need that seat. Letting the perfect be the enemy of the not-quite-as-shitty is what gets us the absolute shittiest.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 83d
The Democrats taking the seat is not "us" taking the seat, but a different faction of capitalists. I'm letting good be the enemy of horrible.
EmmiLime@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 83d
Yeah even a ruthless mercenary who loves killing people and enjoyed working at Abu Ghraib. Or genocide enthusiasts like Kamala.
Hell "no matter who" even means you'd vote for Trump or Hitler if they were blue lmao
DancingBear@midwest.social · -6 pts · 83d
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 83d