Why not? What's wrong with having a day composed of 1000 chroners, or 1 kilochroner which can be divided into either 10 centichroners or 100 decachroners?
We can even divide each chroner into 1000 millichroners, or for scientific purposes, a million microchroners, a billion nanochroners, or a trillion picochroners.
So much more sense than 60 seconds times 60 minutes times 24 hours. What even is a second, anyway? When was it defined as a constant, by whom, and against what reference? It's completely arbitrary, I tell you!
And then when you extend that to 7 days, times 4 to 4.43 weeks, times 12 months before you finally get into decimals (decades, centuries, millenia, etc.), it's insanity!
When was it [the "second", the smallest unit of time-measure under insanity-rules for unit hierarchy] defined as a constant, by whom, and against what reference?
I have to notice, as a long-time student of being-a-person - for ~most folks, a "second" is reasonably close to the length of a single heartbeat. It's imprecise (badly depending on lots of stuff), and so maybe I'm just finding coincidence that has nothing to do with anything.
BUT if we're talkin bout earliest references for attempting to "measure" ongoing time, I mean, look no further, fellow probable-human-with-heartbeat!
60 bpm is about typical for a resting heart rate, I suppose. So that could make sense.
About as much sense as positing that humans use decimal numeral systems (ignoring whatever the fuck the Romans used) because they have ten fingers.
No way to really confirm, but it seems a likely guess.
I wonder if Parmenides talks about it at all...
Also, how did they even standardize this before digital clocks? Like did the first clock maker tell all his apprentices "This clock ticks every second. One tick is one second. Every clock you make must tick at exactly the same rate."
Easy-peasy, first clock-maker set their metronome to 60 bpm, fiddled with the fiddly bits on the clock until no one could hear a difference. Said to apprentices, "see?"
It's crazy to me how people keep making memes where the group with Florida isn't a part of the mental illness. Really speaks to the severity of their mental illness.
Florida is really more like a global epicenter of mental illness, unique and distinct, lol. Magnetically attracting the unwell of various stripes, concentrating and uhhh...cultivating that funk, which of course can't help but radiate outwards, given the frightening densities of "wtf?"
Apparently even tryna think about how to classify the place causes weird distortion effects.
What's 'Mountain'? I've seen TV shows advertised as Eastern, then their voice gets quiet and they mention Central. Sometimes they do the same for Pacific. Never heard of 'Mountain.' Sounds fake.
If you live in Eastern, you’ve heard Central on tv or the radio because it neighbors you and some people in Central might be getting the same broadcast. You’ve heard Pacific because a lot of media is out of LA. There’s nothing important in the Mountain time zone, and it’s far away from you, so you don’t hear about it often.
It's a little bizarre that the Netherlands, or especially Spain, are in the time zone centered on basically Berlin. Damn WW2. The sun doesn't set until nearly 23:00 this time of year, and during winter isn't up until nearly 08:00.
I lived within 20 min of the EST and CST split for a couple years. It is wild. Doing anything informal like meeting with friends was fine because we'd just say "come by in 2 hours." Other times it was awful, leaving home at 7:45pm to go to the grocery store across town and arriving 90 minutes later after they closed sucked lol
Even within a time zone things can be odd because of how big they are. Like you've got sunlight in the summer in Maine until like 8 but in Michigan it's 9.
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Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 59 pts · 70d
If we're really committed to not going by solar time, everything should be UTC.
Spooge@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 70d
mech@feddit.org · 48 pts · 70d
OK then keep using your 12 Football innings per school shooting.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 70d
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
Danm.......ha ha
Spooge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 70d
[threatens with ISO-8601]
Spooge@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 70d
[Runs away hissing] 2026-06-05T18:25:00+00:00
HeHoXa@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 70d
This thread has been cleansed
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 70d
Actual metric time was a fiasco I've always been fascinated by
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 70d
Thanks for posting this. That was an interesting read.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 70d
Why not? What's wrong with having a day composed of 1000 chroners, or 1 kilochroner which can be divided into either 10 centichroners or 100 decachroners?
We can even divide each chroner into 1000 millichroners, or for scientific purposes, a million microchroners, a billion nanochroners, or a trillion picochroners.
So much more sense than 60 seconds times 60 minutes times 24 hours. What even is a second, anyway? When was it defined as a constant, by whom, and against what reference? It's completely arbitrary, I tell you!
And then when you extend that to 7 days, times 4 to 4.43 weeks, times 12 months before you finally get into decimals (decades, centuries, millenia, etc.), it's insanity!
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 70d
As a true believer in SI units, nonetheless:
I have to notice, as a long-time student of being-a-person - for ~most folks, a "second" is reasonably close to the length of a single heartbeat. It's imprecise (badly depending on lots of stuff), and so maybe I'm just finding coincidence that has nothing to do with anything.
BUT if we're talkin bout earliest references for attempting to "measure" ongoing time, I mean, look no further, fellow probable-human-with-heartbeat!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 70d
60 bpm is about typical for a resting heart rate, I suppose. So that could make sense.
About as much sense as positing that humans use decimal numeral systems (ignoring whatever the fuck the Romans used) because they have ten fingers.
No way to really confirm, but it seems a likely guess.
I wonder if Parmenides talks about it at all...
Also, how did they even standardize this before digital clocks? Like did the first clock maker tell all his apprentices "This clock ticks every second. One tick is one second. Every clock you make must tick at exactly the same rate."
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 70d
Easy-peasy, first clock-maker set their metronome to 60 bpm, fiddled with the fiddly bits on the clock until no one could hear a difference. Said to apprentices, "see?"
Spooge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 70d
Now that that's going away maybe we'll finally have metric time. The age of the chroner is upon us!
Spooge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 70d
Oh you're right, it's becoming permanent. Normal time is going away.
What an altered dimension we've found ourselves in. Poor Harambe... 😔
Spooge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 70d
Yeah, how else would you say "a quarter past eight", like "15 centimeters past eight"? It makes no sense!
Spooge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 69d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 70d
UTC isn't metric time. LOL
Spooge@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 70d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time
Spooge@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 70d
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
I've made this argument so many times. It just makes things so much easier when dealing internationally
gnutrino@programming.dev · 2 pts · 70d
If we're not going by solar time we should go with TAI. Fuck leap seconds.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 70d
but I live in EST land so therefore it is the best option
Sneezydinosaur@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 70d
It's crazy to me how people keep making memes where the group with Florida isn't a part of the mental illness. Really speaks to the severity of their mental illness.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 70d
Florida is really more like a global epicenter of mental illness, unique and distinct, lol. Magnetically attracting the unwell of various stripes, concentrating and uhhh...cultivating that funk, which of course can't help but radiate outwards, given the frightening densities of "wtf?"
Apparently even tryna think about how to classify the place causes weird distortion effects.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 67d
Yeah, Florida is basically a retirement home, with boomers aging their population is increasing a lot right now. Its quintessential boomerness.
RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 70d
What's 'Mountain'? I've seen TV shows advertised as Eastern, then their voice gets quiet and they mention Central. Sometimes they do the same for Pacific. Never heard of 'Mountain.' Sounds fake.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 70d
Its a really big hill that is hard to climb.
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 70d
- Kate Bush and Sisyphus, simultaneously
Spooge@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 70d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 70d
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 70d
there's only like 8 people there, so it doesn't really matter.
CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
I’m one of them. At least 3 of us are on Lemmy!
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
Statistically, that's impressive!
blarghly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
People on mountain time have mountains to entertain them, so they dont watch tv
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
They claim it includes New Mexico, but I don't see why we'd have a new Mexico when the old one is still perfectly good. Sounds fake to me
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 70d
Even old New Mexico was once New Amsterdam.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d
The area that New Mexico occupies was named Nuevo Mexico before Mexico existed and was called Mexico, which makes Nex Mexico, OG Mexico.
Starik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
If you live in Eastern, you’ve heard Central on tv or the radio because it neighbors you and some people in Central might be getting the same broadcast. You’ve heard Pacific because a lot of media is out of LA. There’s nothing important in the Mountain time zone, and it’s far away from you, so you don’t hear about it often.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
It's 245pm in California right now.
If you go to parts of Arizona they might tell you it's 345pm. Ask in Phoenix and they'll say 245pm.
Ask in Phoenix in the winter and they remember to say hour different from Pacific time.
They can't get the story straight.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 70d
I guess we don't have the concept of time in Canada (or Mexico) based on this map. Thats also ignoring all of the other world timezones
edit: I'd also label anything American mental illness but I'd be catching my own strays given I'm in EST
i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 70d
Confirmed. I’m in Canada and I’m always late.
Imperious_melange@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 70d
smeg@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 70d
It's a little bizarre that the Netherlands, or especially Spain, are in the time zone centered on basically Berlin. Damn WW2. The sun doesn't set until nearly 23:00 this time of year, and during winter isn't up until nearly 08:00.
Rothe@piefed.social · 2 pts · 70d
Sounds pretty normal, even quite lax from a Northern European viewpoint. Is it supposed to be different?
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 70d
Must be wild living somewhere in the middle of a state right at a time zone border
Specially that eastern Oregon / western Idaho pocket where you gain an hour going far enough north, south, or west lol
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 70d
I lived within 20 min of the EST and CST split for a couple years. It is wild. Doing anything informal like meeting with friends was fine because we'd just say "come by in 2 hours." Other times it was awful, leaving home at 7:45pm to go to the grocery store across town and arriving 90 minutes later after they closed sucked lol
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 70d
Nah. Not really. Time zones don't follow state boundaries because they generally follow natural population boundaries.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 70d
Even within a time zone things can be odd because of how big they are. Like you've got sunlight in the summer in Maine until like 8 but in Michigan it's 9.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 70d
Looking at you, China.
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
Real shit. No cap. No lies told.
I'm very old.
mimavox@piefed.social · 2 pts · 70d
Or, you can do like China and just dictate that everything is one timezone, regardless of longitude.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 70d
It would be really weird going to work at 5am instead of 8am, despite the sun being out
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 70d
They should never have done away with Specific Time.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 70d
Welp, it's 1 PM in Hawaii, time to go settle in for the night.