Tech products need to just fuck off and stay in their lane. Why are you, an app, deciding whether I can use an OS level feature or not? Why is my hardware deciding which OS I'm allowed to run?
Why does the OS allow that in the first place? Even grapheneos allows apps to do that and it's so stupid. Especially when the app has a website version where I can do whatever I want.
One of the reasons why if I ever get a phone supporting gos, I will root it.
What business does an os have to support taking screenshots, and support disabling notifications, but then make it completely impossible to take screenshots of some things or disable some notifications out of judgement that is sometimes just wrong.
there should just be an extra layer of authetication if the feature can be used by malicious apps. for example, the screenshot could be encrypted and you need to unlock it with pin/fingerprint whenever an app wants to access it. that way, the screenshot can be made at an instant and the infostealer still can't get it.
If you feel that way, you should (and I am not being facetious) throw away your phone, get a land line, a linux tablet, and hell, maybe a raspi running Asterix on your land line so you can talk on it from your tablet. Your philosophy is valid but the proprietary landscape of the phone-iverse is intentionally designed to make it unpracticable. You cannot use any SIM-based tech, let alone iOS or Android.
Interesting. I've not come across something like this. Which types of apps do this for you? I'm guessing maybe something about banking or something????
Ohhh ok yes I have had that then lol. Screen goes to max brightness. I actually kind of appreciate that feature because I keep my brightness pretty low and sometimes things don't scan well like that.
I understand why app developers do it, and their motivations are often well-intended - like with making QR scanning more reliable as you mentioned.
It still makes me annoyed, because as far as I'm concerned things at the system level should be under my control, not handed to apps.
My complaint is ideological.
If anything I'm annoyed at Android (=Google) about it, because they could at least put it behind a permission and let the user decide whether to give apps the power, but no - apps can do it whether you consent or not.
It makes sense to bump up the brightness just on that screen that's showing the code for scanning, but doing it for the whole app is just plain stupid.
Wow that’s some next level fake security bullshit. Right up there with “you aren’t allowed to copy and paste your long-ass bank number fOr sEcUrItY. Fuck you if you’re dyslexic.”
...then the app stops working because it detects root, then you find another app to hide the fact that it's rooted, and before you know it you're layers-deep schemeing how to use your own phone the way you wish and dreading common upgrades and new phone purchases.
Grindr has it so you can’t screenshot photos anymore. I can understand why, but I wish there was a way that you could turn it off. Sometimes I ask friends to take pictures of me and send them to me, I should be able to keep them!
36 Comments
Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 110 pts · 72d
Tech products need to just fuck off and stay in their lane. Why are you, an app, deciding whether I can use an OS level feature or not? Why is my hardware deciding which OS I'm allowed to run?
jumponboard@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 72d
Why does the OS allow that in the first place? Even grapheneos allows apps to do that and it's so stupid. Especially when the app has a website version where I can do whatever I want.
Redjard@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 71d
One of the reasons why if I ever get a phone supporting gos, I will root it.
What business does an os have to support taking screenshots, and support disabling notifications, but then make it completely impossible to take screenshots of some things or disable some notifications out of judgement that is sometimes just wrong.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 71d
Android does a halfway decent job of keeping things secure. System apps can't access another app's private files or databases.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 72d
And also, it should be a permission you can toggle. Just like "overlaying over other apps" or whatever it is in english.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 72d
It's an OS level feature to not allow the other OS level feature, believe it or not.
lurch@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 72d
there should just be an extra layer of authetication if the feature can be used by malicious apps. for example, the screenshot could be encrypted and you need to unlock it with pin/fingerprint whenever an app wants to access it. that way, the screenshot can be made at an instant and the infostealer still can't get it.
flandish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 72d
one app we use for fire dispatch involves phi. it makes sense to not allow screenshots if they’re not gonna notify and fire those who screenshot.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 71d
PII or PHI?
flandish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
a little of both, yeah.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 72d
If you feel that way, you should (and I am not being facetious) throw away your phone, get a land line, a linux tablet, and hell, maybe a raspi running Asterix on your land line so you can talk on it from your tablet. Your philosophy is valid but the proprietary landscape of the phone-iverse is intentionally designed to make it unpracticable. You cannot use any SIM-based tech, let alone iOS or Android.
cattywampus@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 72d
gnufuu@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 72d
Is it still possible to spoof SafetyNet on Waydroid?
cattywampus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 72d
pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 72d
Unfortunately this is what you need to do on any rooted Android rn :(
cattywampus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 72d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 72d
So basically just like with DVD players.
cattywampus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 72d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 72d
But they also run a vm, for DRM. Which didn't help much btw.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -5 pts · 72d
That's illegal
cattywampus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 72d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 70d
I was joking
expatriado@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 72d
can't screenshot my bank's app, but can't stop me on a browser
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 72d
Wait until they develop and implement web-page based DRM for their website.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 71d
Also: apps that control your screen brightness.
Fuck off! If I wanted my screen brighter I'd do it, thank you very much.
dingus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d
Interesting. I've not come across something like this. Which types of apps do this for you? I'm guessing maybe something about banking or something????
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 71d
Those that present a barcode or QR code for scanning.
dingus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 71d
Ohhh ok yes I have had that then lol. Screen goes to max brightness. I actually kind of appreciate that feature because I keep my brightness pretty low and sometimes things don't scan well like that.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d
I understand why app developers do it, and their motivations are often well-intended - like with making QR scanning more reliable as you mentioned.
It still makes me annoyed, because as far as I'm concerned things at the system level should be under my control, not handed to apps.
My complaint is ideological.
If anything I'm annoyed at Android (=Google) about it, because they could at least put it behind a permission and let the user decide whether to give apps the power, but no - apps can do it whether you consent or not.
kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 70d
It makes sense to bump up the brightness just on that screen that's showing the code for scanning, but doing it for the whole app is just plain stupid.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 70d
Disneyland app does this for some reason
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 71d
Have this only happen with HDR videos.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 72d
Ha, yes, I found it irritating very recently when trying to share my blood counts from the lab draw. My Medical app doesn't do screenshots.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 71d
Wow that’s some next level fake security bullshit. Right up there with “you aren’t allowed to copy and paste your long-ass bank number fOr sEcUrItY. Fuck you if you’re dyslexic.”
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d
Very silly.
xxxb@feddit.org · 4 pts · 71d
btw you can also root your phone and change this policy.
xia@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 70d
...then the app stops working because it detects root, then you find another app to hide the fact that it's rooted, and before you know it you're layers-deep schemeing how to use your own phone the way you wish and dreading common upgrades and new phone purchases.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d
Grindr has it so you can’t screenshot photos anymore. I can understand why, but I wish there was a way that you could turn it off. Sometimes I ask friends to take pictures of me and send them to me, I should be able to keep them!
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 70d
Why are they sending through Grindr tho
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 70d
It’s my favorite place to make friends ( ° ͜ʖ °)
rain_worl@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 71d
praise!! the analog hole!!