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c/mildlyinfuriating · by diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 90d

AI banners: what owner sees vs what I see

Pulled up the dyslexia font so that nobody is safe.

(just to clarify, I don't have anything against the community, just the AI)

176 points · 40 comments · view on lemmy.world

40 Comments

PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 62 pts · 90d (5 replies)

Although I follow the community, I cringe so hard at the icon and the banner of https://sh.itjust.works/c/games ... how hard it would have been to find a real art from a real controller and make a mosaic with real game covers instead of that nonsensical whatever-crap

bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 90d

Actual what the fuck choice

FG_3479@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 88d
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regdog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d

Thanks, I hate it.

chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 89d

I don't like the OP banner much but I do like this one. There's something really compelling about the abstract take older image models had on video game environments.

Kolanaki@pawb.social · -1 pts · 86d

That shit is so bad, I can only assume it's meant to be a joke.

marighost@piefed.social · 56 pts · 90d

The dbzero instance has a lot of that and it's kind of cringe. Easy to ignore, i guess.

Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 46 pts · 90d (5 replies)

Yeah, even if you're a fan of AI yourself, read the room.

rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 90d (4 replies)

I don't understand what you mean by this, in a manner of speaking it's the mod's room to decorate

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 90d (3 replies)

I’m guessing they mean the fediverse in general.

rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 90d (2 replies)

I guess, but in that case then doesn't it matter that db0 is anarchist and ok with AI?

meowcar42O@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 89d (1 reply)

you can pretty easily be both

MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 85d

I would argue that they go hand in hand. It would be more nonsensical to be an anarchist who apologizes for capitalist constructs like intellectual property, and the idea that you need to pay or ask permission to someone to access or use pixels.

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 90d (20 replies)

You should block the icon too in that case

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 40 pts · 90d

You AI generated basic shapes? What the fuck

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 90d (13 replies)

Why not just open submissions in the communities for user created artwork instead of AI?

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 89d (12 replies)

If anyone wants to organize it, there's nothing stopping them. Direct Action and so on. I just use what I had readily available.

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 26 pts · 89d

I just use what I had readily available.

  1. Go to https://commons.wikimedia.org/
  2. Type "anarchist [symbol|graffiti|protest|parade]"
  3. Pick "No restrictions" under "License"

Alternative: remove the banner and icon. LGTM that way, offends literally nobody.

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 89d

Fair enough. I just mentioned it to you specifically because you're the mod over there and also the admin of the instance.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 88d (6 replies)

It wasn't available, generated images are stolen images.

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 88d

Tbf, something in a store has to be available before you can steal it, if it is sold out or not yet released it'll be harder.

And really in this context "theft" is like "piracy is theft," as much as I also don't like AI, nobody else was deprived of the banner simply because db0 generated it. Piracy isn't theft (and the owner of the Pirate instance isn't likely to be persuaded by that argument at least, even if you disagree..)

And tbf, "well it was trained on actual artist's work" and so was almost every artist in history, that's kind of how it works to a degree. The greats separate themselves but a lot of human created art is derivative.

I mean there's plenty to get mad at AI for, personally I'm not a fan of how people are using it as a brain replacement, how it enables further the ubiquitous spying, how people want it to replace humanity, oh and y'know literal actual murder robots in the form of autonomous loitering drones is probably a bad idea, and coming soon to a town near you. But that said "theft" isn't super high up on my list, personally.

Though this could arguably fit under brain replacement, but more accurately I'd say it was "talent replacement" which is a little more defendable imo, like everyone should be able to think for the most part, not everyone can draw well. Does it affect how much I can appreciate the art in question? Absolutely. But it's not necessarily dumbing db0 down just because he can't draw for shit.

MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 86d (4 replies)

stolen images

Intellectual Property is not a consideration for anarchists. Maybe it is for liberals but anarchists do not often suffer from liberal thoughts. If we do we work to improve ourselves and stop having them.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 86d (3 replies)

anarchist

uses the capitalistic torment nexus that funnels funds directly to the wealthiest people on earth to generate pictures

Pick a lane

MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 85d (2 replies)

There is nothing capitalist about rolling your own models which is what we do here, but hey. You just gave a great example of how anti-AI people don't like to let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 85d

I run my own models, but only LLMs. Anything image or video generation is extremely hard to train ethically, and it looks like shit and obviously generated.

Now, the LLMs I run are not perfectly ethical, but I don't ever post or otherwise publicize the raw output in any shape or form, I merely refer to it and fact check it. Anything I use them for is my own work.

black0ut@pawb.social · 1 pts · 86d (2 replies)

"Let's generate the icon and banner of the anarchist community using a hyper-centralized service created with stolen labour that makes billionaires richer"

db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 86d (1 reply)

We're using local models only. Nobody is getting richer from our use

MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 86d

Anti-AI people don't like to let reality get in the way of a good narrative.

altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 90d (4 replies)

If that'd become a popular opinion, it can be turned into a vote, and maybe a fun contest for replacements 🤔 Imagine having a vote that is not about drama, harassment, atomization of fediverse but a low-stake negative commentary causing a good change with a side of community-building? I'm not against machine learning, but I am for nice events ;3

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 89d (3 replies)

Made my own in like 2 minutes. Lines not thick enough, I know, not doing that again tho. There's no detail but it actually hurts to add detail to a tiny icon. ::: spoiler Preview ::: ::: spoiler SVG

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altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 89d

I'd need a time to make my own versions, like a couple of days, but I won't go with a straight regeneration of AI image, and my two-three initial design ideas are:

  1. Go with the harlequin theme, but make the hat on top of the A a rich two-color geometrical pattern like it's usually depicted, with the main dome and side domes.
  2. Drop the A, and make it just a harlequin face, although it doesn't make it anarchism-related, and picking red-black or any other flag color is limiting.
  3. Drop the A once again to make a red or white circled... B? Since it's a B-tier or even /b/-tier anarchism-related humor, and most people are in the know to descipher it, why not, lol?
  4. Or make it F+, for both flip in FlipAnarchy and the unpleasant mark we get for not reading theory.
Grimy@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 89d (1 reply)

It looks like garbo compared to the AI generated one tbh.

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 89d

Note: 2 minutes.

Grimy@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 90d

Want me to validate your feelings. Will it make you feel better?

Iconoclast@feddit.uk · -12 pts · 90d (5 replies)

I've been here for over 2 years and it still remains unclear to me what the average Lemming stands for, but I sure know what they're against. It's just wild to me how much some people seem to build their identity around the things they oppose - that opposition sometimes seems to be the only thing people here have in common with each other.

diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 90d

It's not inherently a bad thing to have differing opinions. It's not always just "fuck {insert company}" that's common among people; there are DIY communities, software ones, gaming, shitposts...

tomcatt360@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 89d (1 reply)

There are lots of types of people with different opinions and backgrounds on Lemmy. However, most of us in the core user base came to Lemmy either because we were pushed out of other online spaces, or left out of protest. This means that Lemmy is tends to have a bit of a bias against big tech, authoritarian governments and corporations, etc. Lemmy is also open source, so there is also a strong do-it-yourself sentiment here. Lemmy also attracts folks who remember Web 1.0 when information was decentralized, with no top-down control. There are still users and whole communities that disagree with the majority of Lemmy users, but you have to look for them because they are in the minority and are thus not raised by the voting-based systems that Lemmy uses.

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 89d

Remember webrings? I want to bring those back.

magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 89d

PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 88d

People are usually "against" things that are opposed to the things they "stand for", a little logic will tell you what you want to know.