The result when countries think banning a tool is the solution

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SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 97 pts · 60d (7 replies)

One person shits their pants, everyone has to wear diapers

Group punishments are bullshit

OwOarchist@pawb.social · 15 pts · 60d

Group punishments are bullshit

And specifically against the Geneva conventions, lol! (When applied against groups of POWs.)

s38b35M5@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 60d (1 reply)

Happy cake 🍰day, friend!

SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 60d

thanks, happy belated cake day to you!

glowie@infosec.pub · -19 pts · 60d (3 replies)

Agreed, but it worked for car seatbelts lol

LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 31 pts · 59d (2 replies)

That's not a punishment.

glowie@infosec.pub · -5 pts · 59d (1 reply)

The people at the time thought it was

LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 1 pts · 31d

That... is never a justification of anything.

Morons feel persecuted all the time. It doesn't make it true.

rozodru@piefed.world · 15 pts · 60d

yeah coming from India this doesn't surprise me.

amzd@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 60d

Don’t use centralized tools that can easily be blocked. This would’ve been basically impossible if they used delta chat

XLE@piefed.social · 12 pts · 60d (1 reply)

The worst person you know made a good point.

Edit: barely privacy related because everything you do in a Telegram group is visible to Telegram administrators and will be controlled through their international partnerships. They already self-censored in Indonesia.

loutr@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 58d

All telegram messages are sent unencrypted by default. It's possible to encrypt 1-on-1 chats by going through a convoluted process, but group messages can't be encrypted.

If you care about privacy at all, don't use telegram.

spacegoat@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 59d (2 replies)

The only political news I hear out of India is kneejerk nonsense while never fixing the big embarrassing issues

87Six@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 58d (1 reply)

So basically america

spacegoat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 58d

I would describe America as actively legislating to make things worse, rather than just not fixing things

Helkriz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 60d

They think telegram is the only way to do it. 🙄

zephiriz@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 58d

Banned for cheating but banned for being used by scam centers. Naaa.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 59d

They can block everyone? How? I mean a vpn would work, yeah?

webkitten@piefed.social · 2 pts · 58d (1 reply)
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plutopos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 58d

Not cooperating with authorities in general. Pavel talks a lot about "freedom of speech", but by the time he put crypto and shops in telegram, it became clear what his target audience was

hansolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 58d

This happens around Africa once in a while. Kenya, Ghana, and a couple other counties will have a panic and just ban SMS messages, or internet, or Facebook nationally for a day because of one paranoid minister of education. Kenya did the same thing with Telegram not long ago.

Though... Who uses Telegram that isn't an idiot kid or Russian scammer?

phase@lemmy.8th.world · -2 pts · 58d (5 replies)

Poor oligarch who has to feel sad that their nerwork is cut of 150M people. So gentle of them to defend this voices of thos who have to use something else now.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 58d (4 replies)

Petrov was de facto banned from Russia for refusing to fold into the government's requests to influence vkontakte? Dude's definitely too rich and has bad takes sometimes, but calling him an oligarch makes no sense

phase@lemmy.8th.world · 1 pts · 58d (2 replies)

Ok. Not rich and impactfull enough to be an oligarch. But a person wining online when their business is impacted and saying it is an attack on millions of people which isn't.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 58d (1 reply)

But telegram does have millions of users in India. Sure the attack part is slightly hyperbolic, but they were all impacted

phase@lemmy.8th.world · 1 pts · 58d

Then he should instead make them heard. Propose a way to structure, complain, ... support them.

AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 58d

Not using the power doesn't remove it from his grasp. The really rich owner class are oligarchs, even if some of them act benevolently or at least not like the trash they could be.

vrek@programming.dev · -6 pts · 59d (3 replies)

I mean in a way if you are smart enough to get creative ways of cheating in an exam you deserve to pass.

87Six@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 58d

No.

Most jobs don't only require that type of ingenuity. It's its own separate thing and doesn't account for EVERYTHING else

highbank@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 58d

That's such a stupid thing to say. What if they are studying to be a doctor? You'll be risking people's lives because some guy couldn't study and had to use ChatGPT or something to pass the exam and get the job.

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 58d

Don’t celebrate mediocrity