Micheal Moore did a video about this. He asked MAGoos of different ages when exactly did America's decline start. People born in the 1930's claimed America lost its way in the 1950's. People born in the 1940's thought it was in the 1960's. People born in the 1960's thought it was the 1980's.
Everyone of them thought that everything was fine until they reached adulthood...
I’m finding a sick sort of comfort in reading about the bush administration and how horrible I didn’t realize it was. A guy named scooter revealed a CIA asset out of spite because her husband disagreed with the Iraq War. What a shitshow.
'92 here and everything was pretty good until my late 20's/early 30's.
Everything should have been great; my career was taking off, I'd just started a family, we were looking at buying our first house... And then everything went to shit. Inflation, wage stagnation, house prices tripling in my area. Fuck boomers, fuck billionaires, fuck landlords and fuck my government for letting this happen.
I grew up in conservatopia. IT has ALWAYS sucked, especially as I didn't have a "traditional" sexuality. I also had more feminine mannerisms because guess what, growing up in a house with 3 women you'll learn to do that.
and lost the thread on how the roads, bridges, teachers, libraries and first responders they all rely on get funded. Don't be mad at that paycheck, be mad at the millionaire and billionaire fucks that steal your labor in exchange for pennies and make the laws that keep you down.
It always has and it's always been super obvious as long as you know more history than taught in highschool.
What Jackson is talking about, isn't as bad as MAGA wants it to be.
They want the genocide of natives, enslavement of Africans, and the killing of any white person with the balls to stand up against them. They want 1930s/40s and eralier America, not 1960s during the civil rights fights.
Didn't tump say that he was referring to the early 1900s when asked what he was referring to? Ya know the time period known as the gilded age that was rife with robber barons and no labor laws. The period which took wealth inequality to the max resulting in the great depression..
Maga has no clue what actually made America great..
I saw entrepreneur, alpha male bro
pages (probably AI-made) on Instagram stating that childhood is a modern concept and deriding the fact that kids don't work anymore and all this "discovering yourself first" is utter bull. This is literally what the right has been advocating by slowly eroding workers and children's rights! They seriously believe that "the children yearn for mines".
The crazy thing is that back then was also the time of peak immigration at Ellis Island etc. Even if you try to give MAGAs the benefit of the doubt that they aren't trying to be evil, their ideology is just flat-out incoherent!
The only remotely honest thing "Make America Great Again" could mean is "roll back everything to the Obama era, i.e. before Trump, and then we can get started doing something about Reagan." And really that's more "Make America Kinda Okayish Domestically Again."
I'd go as far as say that slavery just exists in other forms. The current version is wage slavery and debt slavery.
Whether using the truck system or the sharecropping system or exploiting child workers or exploiting migrant workers, we've never really stopped driving the US economy with bonded servitude. We just don't call it slavery.
In the meantime, SCOTUS has just reaffirmed that corporations have rights, but human beings do not. At this point I wonder if there's going to be a country left even if the Democrats get back into power and actually attempt to save society.
Oh thank God. I came here just to upvote the person who posted this, and I has to scroll so long to find it that I was worried it would end up being me.
A friend of mine is a local artist and he made a painting of a MAGA hat but the words are “American was never fucking great”. I bought one from him the moment I saw it
So much of good public policy depends on the lessons of the past being something at the forefront of everyone's minds when crafting, presenting, and voting for bills and electorate voting choices.
This meme is calling attention to another side to the same coin as the anti-vaccine nonsense. Ignorance of the lessons taught by the past opens the door for a new generation of con-men looking to sell the same snake oil to the gullible again.
I get the point he is trying to make. But for the people he is trying to criticize - yes, it was good for them. Not good for a minority
Also, it tends to overlook what the MAGA people are trying to say. They want to go to back to being a respected world leader and not a disrespected one.
Granted we have earned it with our succession of poor leadership in Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.
Clinton was the last president that actually practiced fiscal responsibility with a budget surplus. Granted, his scandal was appalling for its time, but it was a personal affair afaic, he probably doesn't need to be lumped in with the others.
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WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 66 pts · 47d
Well, rather obviously the explicit goal is to make America great again for fabulously wealthy white men.
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 47d
Don't forget the Apartheid, they sure ain't taking that off the table
areakode@riskeratspizza.com · 18 pts · 47d
Every plantation needs its slaves...
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 52 pts · 47d
Micheal Moore did a video about this. He asked MAGoos of different ages when exactly did America's decline start. People born in the 1930's claimed America lost its way in the 1950's. People born in the 1940's thought it was in the 1960's. People born in the 1960's thought it was the 1980's.
Everyone of them thought that everything was fine until they reached adulthood...
inari@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 47d
I bet you'd get a similar answer from Millenials
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 47d
As a millennial everything went to shit the day I was born.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 18 pts · 47d
My personal take is that there were three times the US took a giant wrong turn.
LBJ taking Vietnam from a small war to a massive one. He couldn't win, and it opened the door for Nixon to come in.
Reagan elected.
War on Terror.
Trump is the result of those three...
So when do you see that the hammer dropped?
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 47d
Nah man, Regan cut the brake lines years before I was born.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 47d
I’m finding a sick sort of comfort in reading about the bush administration and how horrible I didn’t realize it was. A guy named scooter revealed a CIA asset out of spite because her husband disagreed with the Iraq War. What a shitshow.
Beero@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
Aaah fitzmas eve and the lack of any consequences whatsoever.
michaelalf@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
'92 here and everything was pretty good until my late 20's/early 30's.
Everything should have been great; my career was taking off, I'd just started a family, we were looking at buying our first house... And then everything went to shit. Inflation, wage stagnation, house prices tripling in my area. Fuck boomers, fuck billionaires, fuck landlords and fuck my government for letting this happen.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 46d
Leftist millennials: "this is what America has always been and we can stop it"
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 46d
I grew up in conservatopia. IT has ALWAYS sucked, especially as I didn't have a "traditional" sexuality. I also had more feminine mannerisms because guess what, growing up in a house with 3 women you'll learn to do that.
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Bush was elected when I was 20 so... That tracks.
HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d
Born: 1985 Start of decline: When they shot that goddamn gorilla
Snapz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
Until they first cashed a paycheck...
and lost the thread on how the roads, bridges, teachers, libraries and first responders they all rely on get funded. Don't be mad at that paycheck, be mad at the millionaire and billionaire fucks that steal your labor in exchange for pennies and make the laws that keep you down.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 47d
Make America Great Again is a racist dog whistle. Pretty simple.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 46d
MAGA was a racist dog whistle when Reagan used the slogan. Apparently Clinton also used the phrase, talking specifically about the economy.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 47d
MAGA means the America that inspired the Nazis...
It always has and it's always been super obvious as long as you know more history than taught in highschool.
What Jackson is talking about, isn't as bad as MAGA wants it to be.
They want the genocide of natives, enslavement of Africans, and the killing of any white person with the balls to stand up against them. They want 1930s/40s and eralier America, not 1960s during the civil rights fights.
School_Lunch@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 47d
Didn't tump say that he was referring to the early 1900s when asked what he was referring to? Ya know the time period known as the gilded age that was rife with robber barons and no labor laws. The period which took wealth inequality to the max resulting in the great depression..
Maga has no clue what actually made America great..
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 47d
I saw entrepreneur, alpha male bro pages (probably AI-made) on Instagram stating that childhood is a modern concept and deriding the fact that kids don't work anymore and all this "discovering yourself first" is utter bull. This is literally what the right has been advocating by slowly eroding workers and children's rights! They seriously believe that "the children yearn for mines".
Fucking psychopaths!
grue@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d
The crazy thing is that back then was also the time of peak immigration at Ellis Island etc. Even if you try to give MAGAs the benefit of the doubt that they aren't trying to be evil, their ideology is just flat-out incoherent!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
Those were European migrants. Don't even bother trying to explain that they weren't considered "white" back then, it's not going to work.
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 46d
And that's exactly the America MAGA wants back, it's that simple.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 46d
They ultimately want to enslave black people again, if not that Jim Crowe laws and segregation out the ass.
angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 46d
The only remotely honest thing "Make America Great Again" could mean is "roll back everything to the Obama era, i.e. before Trump, and then we can get started doing something about Reagan." And really that's more "Make America Kinda Okayish Domestically Again."
BillyClark@piefed.social · 9 pts · 47d
The people who want to "Make America Great Again" want to oppress minorities. If they could turn black people into slaves, they'd do it.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 47d
They still do. Slavery isn't illegal, guess who is disproportionately incarcerated.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 46d
I'd go as far as say that slavery just exists in other forms. The current version is wage slavery and debt slavery.
Whether using the truck system or the sharecropping system or exploiting child workers or exploiting migrant workers, we've never really stopped driving the US economy with bonded servitude. We just don't call it slavery.
In the meantime, SCOTUS has just reaffirmed that corporations have rights, but human beings do not. At this point I wonder if there's going to be a country left even if the Democrats get back into power and actually attempt to save society.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 2 pts · 47d
Rich white pedophiles?
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 47d
Make American Great Again means they don't see what makes America great right now.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 47d
Pretty much everything MAGA wanted to get rid of were the things I actually liked about the country.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 46d
Anything that might have made this country great at one point died with Trump's reelection
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 46d
You're still alive. 🫶
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 46d
America went to shit in the 1490s when Columbus arrived.
ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 46d
Note the Free Angela shirt. Legend.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
* whom
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 46d
Oh thank God. I came here just to upvote the person who posted this, and I has to scroll so long to find it that I was worried it would end up being me.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 47d
Used to be???
amgine@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
A friend of mine is a local artist and he made a painting of a MAGA hat but the words are “American was never fucking great”. I bought one from him the moment I saw it
Snapz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
Contrast this sentiment with people like Snoop Dogg, dancing and apologizing for the firing squad.
Snoop can rap all day about being tough, but saying shit like this publicly is actual strength.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 46d
He grew up during segregation? How old is he?
VinegarChunks@lemmus.org · 18 pts · 46d
Samuel L Jackson was born in 1948 so yeah that fits
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 46d
Damn I would've thought he was 50 not 75
frostysauce@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
He's been fifty since The Phantom Menace.
lordziv@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 46d
Black don't crack!
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
So much of good public policy depends on the lessons of the past being something at the forefront of everyone's minds when crafting, presenting, and voting for bills and electorate voting choices.
This meme is calling attention to another side to the same coin as the anti-vaccine nonsense. Ignorance of the lessons taught by the past opens the door for a new generation of con-men looking to sell the same snake oil to the gullible again.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · -1 pts · 46d
I get the point he is trying to make. But for the people he is trying to criticize - yes, it was good for them. Not good for a minority
Also, it tends to overlook what the MAGA people are trying to say. They want to go to back to being a respected world leader and not a disrespected one.
Granted we have earned it with our succession of poor leadership in Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump.
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
Clinton was the last president that actually practiced fiscal responsibility with a budget surplus. Granted, his scandal was appalling for its time, but it was a personal affair afaic, he probably doesn't need to be lumped in with the others.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · -1 pts · 45d
He was more than his affair. His trade and business policies set the precedent for decades of bad faith decisions by American leadership.
Bread@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 46d