He wouldn’t provide a picture, and somehow nothing turned up on his file. He said there weren’t any photos of him. Odd guy, but he made me a beautiful shawl for my trouble…
Yeah I don't like it but I do struggle to argue against it. He cares about justice, and wanted to make sure bajorans got fair treatment (in his area, at least) under the cardassians. But then again he worked for them.
Likewise he got a bit anti-"solid" racist from time to time and had a vaguely sexual relationship with the female founder, but then went back the link, calmed them all down and kind of stopped the war.
I feel like it's one step forward but then also at least one step back.
Still my favourite character so I guess I'm just a hypocrite lol
It was Prodigy, not Picard. Wes wasn't in the last season of Picard, and I can't even remember him being mentioned even though his family was a big part of the season.
I want Miles x Bashir to be cannon so bad. I get that Miles is a married father, so a divorce might not be easy for him, but a fling? A sultry night out with the boys? Pleaseeee :3
You remember how they had a picture of hitler with a bunch of different hairstyles and beards in order to know what he might look like in a disguise if he tried to flee? Now i want one of Dukat in the same style.
I feel like TNG, DS9, and VOY all had a specific way to mix character attributes.
Like Data wants to be human, Odo wants to be human, Tuvok and Seven are both made to be human.
Worf, Belana and Worf have anger management issues that require other characters to quell.
Harry Kim, Weasley, and Jake are all struggling to fit in.
Picard, Sisko, and Janeway are so competent that it gets in the way.
Broccoli, broccoli, and Miles are all tortured.
Q, Nelix, and Quark are all alien perverts.
Odo, Seven, and Data all have over powered abilities.
Jordie, Old man, and Kes all have less useful powers.
These mixes, allow a good variety of stories to be told, often which ask similar questions using new characters. I know you've all thought about this before.
A lot of the non-human characters are following the Spock blueprint, which I appreciate: the fish-out-of-water who needs to fit in, while plotlines do the Gene Roddenberry "we celebrate our differences" thing.
63 Comments
Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 74d
But where is Garak!?
alx@piefed.blahaj.zone · 67 pts · 74d
Behind you!
HieroProtagonist@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 74d
With a knife!
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 74d
And a measuring tape.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 74d
Beautiful!
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 74d
But that's the best place to stab somebody!
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 30 pts · 74d
He's just a humble tailor, no reason to add him here.
marlowe221@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 74d
Plain, simple Garak…
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 74d
Just a random background character.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 74d
He wouldn’t provide a picture, and somehow nothing turned up on his file. He said there weren’t any photos of him. Odd guy, but he made me a beautiful shawl for my trouble…
Zephorah@discuss.online · 20 pts · 74d
Gay assassin spy with daddy issues who is also an excellent tailor.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 7 pts · 74d
Many of these points are merely allegetions.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 2 pts · 73d
Fair point.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 73d
He is where you are not looking.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 73d
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 74d
Everywhere.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 74d
This does Jake dirty.
He eventually becomes a war journalist whose stories will be read (after the conflict, thanks to Weyoun) quadrantwide.
Wesley turned into a space hippie and fucked off forever.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 74d
I also think it's a little harsh on Odo, lol. Someone has to do his job.
OccamsTeapot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 74d
Yeah I don't like it but I do struggle to argue against it. He cares about justice, and wanted to make sure bajorans got fair treatment (in his area, at least) under the cardassians. But then again he worked for them.
Likewise he got a bit anti-"solid" racist from time to time and had a vaguely sexual relationship with the female founder, but then went back the link, calmed them all down and kind of stopped the war.
I feel like it's one step forward but then also at least one step back.
Still my favourite character so I guess I'm just a hypocrite lol
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 74d
Complex characters in complex situations make the writing more interesting to me too.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 74d
ACAB. Abolish the space police.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 74d
An episode with Quark leading a protest like that on the promenade would have been amazing.
Solumbran@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 74d
His job of always helping the fascist oppressor side? Because that's what he continuously does.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 3 pts · 74d
Someone has to be lawful good in this lineup. Versus the lawful evil of the rest of his people.
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 74d
Odo is at best LN and more often than not, Lawful Stupid.
forbiddencherry@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 73d
It's what Quark called him in The Ascent.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 74d
Like many middle-aged hippies who lose their way, Wesley eventually became a cop.
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 74d
What do you mean cop? He became space-Mozart-Jesus
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 74d
Yes, but then ::: spoiler Picard and Prodigy spoilers he became a spacetime cop. :::
ryper@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 73d
It was Prodigy, not Picard. Wes wasn't in the last season of Picard, and I can't even remember him being mentioned even though his family was a big part of the season.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 73d
In addition to Prodigy Wesley was in the Season 2 finale of of Picard, not the whole series' finale. My mistake! Thanks for the correction.
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 73d
I guess I wouldn't really call that a cop
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 74d
Dude…too fucking true.
SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 40 pts · 74d
I tried to ask Morn about his archetype, but the guy never shuts up! I couldn't get a word in edgewise!
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 74d
I’m offended by “involuntary celibate”
Bashir’s celibacy is entirely voluntary due to his pursuits of Miles and Garak
KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 74d
I want Miles x Bashir to be cannon so bad. I get that Miles is a married father, so a divorce might not be easy for him, but a fling? A sultry night out with the boys? Pleaseeee :3
dkppunk@piefed.social · 13 pts · 74d
Nah! Divorce is unnecessary, just make them a throuple! Let Keiko have her fun too :)
edible_funk@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 74d
Keiko already had her fun on Bajor.
dkppunk@piefed.social · 4 pts · 74d
Who says the fun has to stop at Bajor! Just let everyone have one huge orgy on Deep Space Nine. It can be the sex party space station! 🤣
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 1 pts · 74d
Miles x Bashir is canon. It's just the exact details that are left to the imagination.
KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 73d
But Garak x Miles got confirmed in Lower Decks. I just want Miles to be mentioned as part of the relationship :(
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 74d
and Dax, especially Ezri.
milkisklim@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 74d
Anyone who gets to date Leeta is not involuntary anything.
teft@piefed.social · 25 pts · 74d
You remember how they had a picture of hitler with a bunch of different hairstyles and beards in order to know what he might look like in a disguise if he tried to flee? Now i want one of Dukat in the same style.
thessnake03@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 74d
teft@piefed.social · 28 pts · 74d
Same picture:
KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de · 22 pts · 74d
"One ticket from Nürnberg to Buenos Aires" had me rolling on the floor. Excellent!
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 73d
Seconded, what a line
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 74d
I feel like TNG, DS9, and VOY all had a specific way to mix character attributes.
Like Data wants to be human, Odo wants to be human, Tuvok and Seven are both made to be human.
Worf, Belana and Worf have anger management issues that require other characters to quell.
Harry Kim, Weasley, and Jake are all struggling to fit in.
Picard, Sisko, and Janeway are so competent that it gets in the way.
Broccoli, broccoli, and Miles are all tortured.
Q, Nelix, and Quark are all alien perverts.
Odo, Seven, and Data all have over powered abilities.
Jordie, Old man, and Kes all have less useful powers.
These mixes, allow a good variety of stories to be told, often which ask similar questions using new characters. I know you've all thought about this before.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 74d
Bashir sighs with relief that nobody’s caught on
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 3 pts · 74d
He's just fascinated with frontier medicine!
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 73d
Stumbles over his own feet
teft@piefed.social · 14 pts · 74d
That is so speciesist that i'm reporting you to Humanoid Resources.
EnsignWashout@startrek.website · 4 pts · 74d
I miss that department before it was just Odo disguised as the table.
teft@piefed.social · 4 pts · 73d
"Why are there two tables in this office?"
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 74d
A lot of the non-human characters are following the Spock blueprint, which I appreciate: the fish-out-of-water who needs to fit in, while plotlines do the Gene Roddenberry "we celebrate our differences" thing.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 73d
Yeah, I agree, they're all kind of breaking up and riffing on attributes of the original 3.
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 74d
MORN!!!!
Sxan@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 74d
Morn is all it needs. Unfortunately, þe scripts are too long.
nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 9 pts · 73d
popekingjoe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 74d
"larceny gremlin" is my favorite
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 73d
Yelled when I read O'Brien
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 73d
Oh god this hit me at the right moment, as soon as I hit Dukat I just fell apart in a mad cackle.