World of Ass? I was playing that a lot the other month, absolutely bananas that it requires an online connection.
There's the Peacock Project though, which lets you host your own server. Ultimately that kind of thing shouldn't be required but it's nice that players have made their own thing. Like what do you mean I need to be online and connected to their services to progress in the campaign and unlock new things in my singleplayer game?
connects to the totally legit server hosted by the game company that I absolutely made an account for, the server that’s certainly not being spoofed on my local machine or hosted on my living room server
There you go, lil guy, you’re good to play this legitimate game on the server you were definitely designed for!
I've seen stuff pulled from the steam store so it's no longer available for purchase/adding to my library, but the ones I already added, even undownloaded, have always still been available in my library, even if the game was fully defunct.
That's a substantially different situation, I don't see how you can reasonably equate Sony removing game data from people's console post-purchase due to them no longer maintaining any servers to play on with Valve not letting you keep a game that was not properly paid for in the first place.
What facts? You're comparing Sony manually removing game data from accounts that had legitimate ownership of it with Steam automatically reversing the registration of a game you didn't pay for. I'm sure you've done some serious mental gymnastics to justify whatever grudge you hold over the situation, but it's entirely apples to oranges.
I didn’t expect the payment to fail and I definitely didnt expect the games I started playing to be deleted from my harddrive. Are you trying to say you wouldn’t be surprised if something you didn’t know could happen until I informed you, happened?
I wouldn't expect the payment to fail, but I wouldn't be surprised either if I couldn't keep games that I didn't pay for. And I wouldn't compare either this to sony removing games you paid for (without the payment being rejected).
Yep, GOG doesn’t have the ability but Valve absolutely does. When my payment for a humble bundle failed (so, added to library and installed before the payment was resolved) Steam removed the games from my library AND drive
Agreed. It probably has to do with the third party (humble bundle) validation process. This functionality however is in the Steam subscriber agreement, along with “any reason we see fit”
Some steam games don't have DRM... even Steam's. Steam just hosts the files. I think Stalker(the old games) is onesuch example. The games just launch whether steam is up or not.
Your right, I think most are taking the news hard as discs were seen as the final hold out of I brought something and I own it.
We've changed from media to media its just that at this time, we are at the tipping point, and as of tomorrow (2028) we will have zero options to buy a game and own it (on consoles, yes GOG is a thing)
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OS2Warp@lemmy.zip · 113 pts · 53d
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 67 pts · 53d
I remember when this was so absurd that it was funny, now it just seems like an inevitability...
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 53d
Except you'll also have to swear allegiance to the Supreme Leader before you can use any computing device.
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 53d
ALL HAIL COMPUTRON 9000000!!
🤖
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 53d
Now the absurd part is the idea that people will be playing on XBOX in the future.
Gaja0@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 53d
One day it'll just be Tuesdayy
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 53d
I’m stocking up on verification cans as we speak
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 53d
Careful, they might require you to drink from cans with the latest branding printed on them to be considered valid.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 53d
Shit. My plan is ruined!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 53d
Anon is a time traveler
Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 53d
Jesus, I was there Gandalf, 3k years ago
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 39 pts · 53d
Laughs in SSD full of digital copies they can never take away from me
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 43 pts · 53d
please connect to the internet to play single player campaign
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 53d
Don't have to. None of them have any DRM
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org · 12 pts · 53d
Good choice then.
troglodytis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 53d
Good GOG, man!
reev@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 53d
Hitman, my beloved, you're such a good game but fuuuuuck the online connection thing.
Dojan@pawb.social · 5 pts · 53d
World of Ass? I was playing that a lot the other month, absolutely bananas that it requires an online connection.
There's the Peacock Project though, which lets you host your own server. Ultimately that kind of thing shouldn't be required but it's nice that players have made their own thing. Like what do you mean I need to be online and connected to their services to progress in the campaign and unlock new things in my singleplayer game?
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 9 pts · 53d
Pro tip: pirated versions usually remove this requirement.
Xanvial@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 53d
So, just like jailbroken playstation?
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 53d
connects to the totally legit server hosted by the game company that I absolutely made an account for, the server that’s certainly not being spoofed on my local machine or hosted on my living room server
There you go, lil guy, you’re good to play this legitimate game on the server you were definitely designed for!
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 53d
COPYRIGHT ENFORCEMENT AGENCY!!! COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD!!!
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 53d
https://www.thegamer.com/playstation-deleting-concord-consoles/
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 53d
I'm guessing the commenter is talking about GOG and/or "legitimate" piracy on PC.
(Legitimate piracy meaning you own the game legally but you downloaded a pirated copy to avoid DRM)
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 53d
Valve also does this btw
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 53d
I've seen stuff pulled from the steam store so it's no longer available for purchase/adding to my library, but the ones I already added, even undownloaded, have always still been available in my library, even if the game was fully defunct.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 53d
I’ve had my downloaded purchases from a humble bundle deleted from my PC after a couple days because the payment processor failed
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 53d
That's a substantially different situation, I don't see how you can reasonably equate Sony removing game data from people's console post-purchase due to them no longer maintaining any servers to play on with Valve not letting you keep a game that was not properly paid for in the first place.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 53d
I don’t see how a different situation has anything to do with it? You can make any judgement you like but the facts are the facts
Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 53d
What facts? You're comparing Sony manually removing game data from accounts that had legitimate ownership of it with Steam automatically reversing the registration of a game you didn't pay for. I'm sure you've done some serious mental gymnastics to justify whatever grudge you hold over the situation, but it's entirely apples to oranges.
Those are the facts.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 8 pts · 53d
Exactly what did you expect to happen? Were you expecting to keep the games that you didn't pay?
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 53d
I didn’t expect the payment to fail and I definitely didnt expect the games I started playing to be deleted from my harddrive. Are you trying to say you wouldn’t be surprised if something you didn’t know could happen until I informed you, happened?
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 8 pts · 53d
I wouldn't expect the payment to fail, but I wouldn't be surprised either if I couldn't keep games that I didn't pay for. And I wouldn't compare either this to sony removing games you paid for (without the payment being rejected).
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 53d
Got any sources for that? Only ever heard of them removing a game from sale, not removing it from someone who has already bought it.
Also GOG can't even do this if they wanted to, they are unable to uninstall a game you have downloaded already.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 53d
Yep, GOG doesn’t have the ability but Valve absolutely does. When my payment for a humble bundle failed (so, added to library and installed before the payment was resolved) Steam removed the games from my library AND drive
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 53d
Oh, removing stuff you didn't pay for is pretty understandable tbh. Didn't realise they even let you play stuff before the payment is made.
Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 53d
Agreed. It probably has to do with the third party (humble bundle) validation process. This functionality however is in the Steam subscriber agreement, along with “any reason we see fit”
Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 53d
Some steam games don't have DRM... even Steam's. Steam just hosts the files. I think Stalker(the old games) is onesuch example. The games just launch whether steam is up or not.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 53d
Sounds like a very convincing reason to never rent a Sony product again.
NullPointerException@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 53d
Loved the uniform detail
nuko147@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 52d
I will get disliked but I will say it.
Discs are dying because of their low storage, high price per GB, reading speeds and no demand since internet speeds got very high.
The problem is not the discs disappearing. The problem is that we don't own the data we buy.
When I'm fucking paying for a software, I am not paying to use it, I pay for the data, the files and to do whatever the fuck I want with them.
You can copy songs, you can mix songs, you can fucking alter them, because you own them even if you buy them without a disc.
Do you want not to sell discs? Fine. Let me download the image file and store it wherever I want.
ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 52d
Your right, I think most are taking the news hard as discs were seen as the final hold out of I brought something and I own it.
We've changed from media to media its just that at this time, we are at the tipping point, and as of tomorrow (2028) we will have zero options to buy a game and own it (on consoles, yes GOG is a thing)
darthsundhaft@piefed.social · 8 pts · 53d