But also, it's not just about boycotting the US, it's also about supporting the Canadian economy to strengthen our country, given our next door neighbor is a demented lunatic, with apparently still tens of millions of supporters.
So yeah, no.
But hey, if you want to secede and use all that sweet economic clout of yours to create Cascadia, you can have all that business back. If it means that much to you.
As an american, I say to you: Elbows Up, Canada! We're sorry about our government being assholes to you. I know many good canadian people. You guys are on the right side of history in this battle (except the weirdos in Alberta).
um, welcome fellow citizen of Us-rael. You can vote in our elections now, congrats. Dont forget to pay your taxes, those bombs are really not cheap. I hope you got all your health care handled before you changed citizenship.
Oh, wow. Genius plan. If the flatlander states aren't completely toxic and ruined, they could be resettled as soon as the Cascadian and NewColonial state groups repair their economies enough to begin allowing new membership applications and setting up proper accessible care and prevention.
... and dirtbag richbitch reparation suits. They'll pay for proper healthcare and rebuilding now with their tax money, or in a courtroom later.
Well I was figuring that most of the great planes will probably depopulate due to trade collapse. Not necessarily due to ecological issues but s second dustbowl is always possible I suppose.
If there was some kind of secession crisis I feel like CO would be the most fucked state for sure. Surrounded on almost all sides. Although most of those states are low population so who knows what might happen...
I agree! We need to find a way to join up. Maybe move enough Democrats into Nevada and Utah to form a bridge to California.
Honestly, if just enough Democrats moved into just the right amount of states, we would easily overpower the crazies and bring things back on track.
Although, you see movements like in Illinois where the vocal minority sitting on lots of land want to secede from Chicago. You know, where all the people are and where all the money comes from...
There’s vast swaths of those less-insane states that are just as insane. Flyover PA, upstate NY, eastern Oregon and Washington, southern Illinois, and central California
America won’t fucking learn until the wealthy are materially affected. We’re not quite there yet. So far the hurt is only on working class people, but like half of them still support the regime. Maybe the gas crisis will knock some sense into us. Probably not.
Fuck Adam schiff. These wineries are what rich people do when they get bored just being socialites. Or they are generational wealth that has manifested in these vines.
This hurts immigrant labor in my state, deeply, it would be the only worry I have IF TRUMP WASN'T MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY UNLOCKED THE CHEAT CODE OF PUTTING YOURSELF DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF A VEHICLE.
Frankly if all your energy isn't put into stopping that shit Adam, then what the hell is the point, Canada should continue to ethically boycott the country.
Not that it matters - the fascists loooooove being hypocrites - they revel in it - but....
Remember how the wingnuts were positively giddy about the prospect of being permitted to run over protesters if they felt "threatened" (meaning, someone was blocking their car)? You had cops sharing memes like "All Lives Splatter" and people putting that sticker on their car, wearing the shirt, etc., gee what a knee slapper that is, hardy-har-har, what a great "dad joke" that is you guyzzz.
Because, you know, blocking traffic is the real threat to people's lives, etc., how dare they, of course you should be able to run over protesters.
But in the case of ICE, you have unidentified, armed, and masked men, and, now, it is they who should be able to jump out in front of a car, and are supposed to be able to murder someone in their car?
The only thing that is even remotely consistent here is which side the conservatives are on. Just imagine if liberals started passing bills to make it permissible to run over an ICE agent if you felt threatened, and then, liberal politicians started sharing the equivalent of "All Lives Splatter"?
Can you just imagine the meltdown from the right, as well as the Murc's Law Media?
Reveling in being a hypocrite is just so fucking accurate. The act hurting any person you perceive to be against you, especially at the cost of your integrity. Because your opponent cares about integrity, and that's just another place you can hurt them.
Schiff should be campaigning to influence the people that started the trade war and continue to threaten the USA's traditional allies and trade partners. Those people are in the US Government, not in Canada.
And Meredith Lilly sounds like a traitor, who is also pressuring Canada to back down and make life easier for Trump.
Meredith Lilly, who worked as an advisor to former Prime Minister Stephen Harper, believes the provinces are “overstepping their jurisdiction” with the ban.
The Carleton University professor and Simon Reisman Chair in International Economic Policy says she expects there are a number of conversations happening behind the scenes and hopes the federal government is pushing to get booze back on the shelves, and that provinces are listening.
“International trade negotiations are a federal responsibility, not a provincial responsibility, and so it’s my view that the provincial premiers should be working collaboratively with Ottawa and taking signals from Ottawa about what would be the best approach,” she told CTV News.
She says the trade irritant has “become quite a personal issue” for American officials on the file, including United States Trade Representative Jamieson Greer.
“It seems like this is one of the measures that could be taken quite easily to move the conversation forward in a more constructive way,” Lilly said.
Meanwhile newscum is platforming fascists on his podcast and blocking the one time five percent billionaire tax. Also I should mention all these Epstein connected fascist anti democratic tech bros became filthy rich in California so the world should be angry at California for sure
Conservatives got 33.74% of the vote last election. Now they're in the awkward spot of trying to move away from being Maple-MAGA to being pro-Canada and it's not going well for them.
Fuck that, the seditionists can move to the US, they're all wannabe Americans anyway. Leave Alberta to the indigenous people and anyone else there that want to remain Canadians.
I'm not much of a wine drinker anyway, but this boycott made me discover Quebec's bubbly apple cider made with extra grape stuff in it. It's 9%, dry as a desert, and very refreshing.
California is still USA, and USA is a rogue nation led by a criminal psychopath.
We know half of USA don't like Trump either, but he is still your President, and the threats and destruction he wields on the world is on America as a country, not Americans as individuals. That means Trumps actions are on behalf of ALL Americans, not just the idiots that voted for him.
'Online' Canadians forget there are a ton of conservative Canadians out there, and while Canada is more insulated than the US towards a strategic take over (gerrymandering, voter suppression etc) than we are, it still very much could happen there.
41% of Canadians voted for a conservative party candidate.
A minority of the people in Carlton voted for Polierve, and then 80% of the people in Battle River—Crowfoot voted for him after he went searching for a safe space.
95 Comments
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 124 pts · 23d
Sorry California. You're still America.
But also, it's not just about boycotting the US, it's also about supporting the Canadian economy to strengthen our country, given our next door neighbor is a demented lunatic, with apparently still tens of millions of supporters.
So yeah, no.
But hey, if you want to secede and use all that sweet economic clout of yours to create Cascadia, you can have all that business back. If it means that much to you.
sepi@piefed.social · 37 pts · 23d
As an american, I say to you: Elbows Up, Canada! We're sorry about our government being assholes to you. I know many good canadian people. You guys are on the right side of history in this battle (except the weirdos in Alberta).
Auli@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 23d
Sorry it isnt the government it is the people. This government didn't come out of nothing.
sepi@piefed.social · 9 pts · 23d
You are correct, friend. We have quite the struggle on our hands over here. Just my luck, I became a citizen in 2025.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
um, welcome fellow citizen of Us-rael. You can vote in our elections now, congrats. Dont forget to pay your taxes, those bombs are really not cheap. I hope you got all your health care handled before you changed citizenship.
ohshit604@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 22d
As a Canadian elbows are at a cool 30° right now, not everything is peaches and cream on the liberal side of the rainbow.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 23d
Yeah, a secession for the less-insane states sounds pretty good. Tho the red (read: non-coastal) parts could fuck on off with Idaho and Nevada.
realitista@lemmus.org · 9 pts · 23d
This is totally unfair to Colorado. You can't leave us with these nutjobs.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 23d
Don't worry the California Imperium can annex you guys once we get done with the Mormons.
realitista@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 23d
You'd better be true to your word. We will probably lose most of our democrat population to emigration before that happens.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 23d
Well worst case scenario it gets resettled.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 23d
Oh, wow. Genius plan. If the flatlander states aren't completely toxic and ruined, they could be resettled as soon as the Cascadian and NewColonial state groups repair their economies enough to begin allowing new membership applications and setting up proper accessible care and prevention.
... and dirtbag richbitch reparation suits. They'll pay for proper healthcare and rebuilding now with their tax money, or in a courtroom later.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 23d
Well I was figuring that most of the great planes will probably depopulate due to trade collapse. Not necessarily due to ecological issues but s second dustbowl is always possible I suppose.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
Idaho racists first, they will absolutely need to be thoroughly taken care of. Mormons we can probably just build a wall to keep out.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 23d
If there was some kind of secession crisis I feel like CO would be the most fucked state for sure. Surrounded on almost all sides. Although most of those states are low population so who knows what might happen...
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 23d
Make your own nation. Let's trade.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21d
We need to get the native American leaders back to sort this nonsense out and reestablish some order and civilization.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23d
I agree! We need to find a way to join up. Maybe move enough Democrats into Nevada and Utah to form a bridge to California.
Honestly, if just enough Democrats moved into just the right amount of states, we would easily overpower the crazies and bring things back on track.
Although, you see movements like in Illinois where the vocal minority sitting on lots of land want to secede from Chicago. You know, where all the people are and where all the money comes from...
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 22d
Start exterminating Nazis and we’ll talk
realitista@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 22d
While you guys just walk away? Thanks a lot.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23d
There’s vast swaths of those less-insane states that are just as insane. Flyover PA, upstate NY, eastern Oregon and Washington, southern Illinois, and central California
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23d
Yeah, it's just a list of states sorted by population of the largest city
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 23d
Those less insane States still voted for tump like 45%.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23d
Nope.
Canajan@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 23d
Nope, even in blue states there are more than enough Trump supporting Republicans, that are to blame for all of this.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 23d
Right, which is why I addressed that in my comment.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
Cascadia sounds amazing. Sure wouldnt mind being back on reasonable terms with Canada either.
Toto@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 23d
Love hearing about this every once in a while. It’s a nice reminder that Canadians aren’t as powerless as the US would like us to believe
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 23d
Thank you for hurting us. I really mean it.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 22d
Did we say you could speak? Your answer will be "No mistress".
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21d
No mistress.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 23d
Well don't be a nazi once and see what happens. All Republicans should be put down
decolo@piefed.social · 10 pts · 23d
I'd be okay with marooning them in the Pacific garbage island
harmbugler@piefed.social · 7 pts · 23d
The British already did that, please not again. Thanks, Australia.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
Fate is never so merciful.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 22d
Maybe stop relying on fate and fucking do something yourself
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 23d
America won’t fucking learn until the wealthy are materially affected. We’re not quite there yet. So far the hurt is only on working class people, but like half of them still support the regime. Maybe the gas crisis will knock some sense into us. Probably not.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
The boycott is about Canadians being well aware that Americans have no ideology, they only care about money, so don't give it to them.
The bad news for USA is that this is already habituated, we won't be going back.
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 23d
Fuck Adam schiff. These wineries are what rich people do when they get bored just being socialites. Or they are generational wealth that has manifested in these vines.
This hurts immigrant labor in my state, deeply, it would be the only worry I have IF TRUMP WASN'T MURDERING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY UNLOCKED THE CHEAT CODE OF PUTTING YOURSELF DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF A VEHICLE.
Frankly if all your energy isn't put into stopping that shit Adam, then what the hell is the point, Canada should continue to ethically boycott the country.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 23d
They unlocked the cheat code of lying. They're not even actually putting themselves in front of vehicles. They're not that brave.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 23d
Not that it matters - the fascists loooooove being hypocrites - they revel in it - but....
Remember how the wingnuts were positively giddy about the prospect of being permitted to run over protesters if they felt "threatened" (meaning, someone was blocking their car)? You had cops sharing memes like "All Lives Splatter" and people putting that sticker on their car, wearing the shirt, etc., gee what a knee slapper that is, hardy-har-har, what a great "dad joke" that is you guyzzz.
Because, you know, blocking traffic is the real threat to people's lives, etc., how dare they, of course you should be able to run over protesters.
But in the case of ICE, you have unidentified, armed, and masked men, and, now, it is they who should be able to jump out in front of a car, and are supposed to be able to murder someone in their car?
The only thing that is even remotely consistent here is which side the conservatives are on. Just imagine if liberals started passing bills to make it permissible to run over an ICE agent if you felt threatened, and then, liberal politicians started sharing the equivalent of "All Lives Splatter"?
Can you just imagine the meltdown from the right, as well as the Murc's Law Media?
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23d
Reveling in being a hypocrite is just so fucking accurate. The act hurting any person you perceive to be against you, especially at the cost of your integrity. Because your opponent cares about integrity, and that's just another place you can hurt them.
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 23d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
A few drinks won't change anything, Canada still consumes US sports and everyone is buying trucks, regardless of gas prices.
MartianRecon@lemmus.org · 20 pts · 23d
Given that these wineries are likely owned by rich ass conservatives in my state. Good fucking job.
unruffled@anarchist.nexus · 17 pts · 23d
Great!
DarkDecay@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 23d
Even they lift the ban people are choosing not to buy American in Canada. It may not even help at this point
LogicalFallacy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22d
I live in the US and actively avoid US products as well. No reason to reverse those habits that i can see.
errer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 23d
Fuck us. Fuck us hard, Canada. We deserve it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Eu, no, thank you.
grte@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 23d
Why don't you write a DM to your president about reconsidering his trade war?
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 23d
I really wish we had an opposition party
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 23d
Schiff should be campaigning to influence the people that started the trade war and continue to threaten the USA's traditional allies and trade partners. Those people are in the US Government, not in Canada.
And Meredith Lilly sounds like a traitor, who is also pressuring Canada to back down and make life easier for Trump.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 23d
We need a Zohran Mamdani party
busted_Anoose@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 22d
If you vote idiots in who shit on your allies, expect them to shit back on you.
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com · 12 pts · 23d
It’s a luxury item. I just can’t find any sympathy.
tigermountain@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 23d
Is all alcohol a luxury item then?
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 22d
Yes.
TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 22d
Yes 🤷♀️
tigermountain@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22d
I'm not trying to be antagonistic but I'm sorry you have such a black and white view on this.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 22d
When is alcohol not a luxury? You don't need it to live.
In fact, I'd argue a society devoid of alcohol (with no knowledge of it) would probably be safer and happier.
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
If you're living a bare bones existence it's the little things in life that make it bearable.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 22d
Getting drunk to ignore your misery isn't going to improve things.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Maybe alcohol is why some people are living in a bare bones existence.
chewypoops@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
Yeah, and if you want the boycott to stop, petition your government, because they're the reason Canadians are boycotting American goods to begin with!
LogicalFallacy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22d
sik0fewl@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 23d
He should be pleading to Americans, not Canadians.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 22d
Meanwhile newscum is platforming fascists on his podcast and blocking the one time five percent billionaire tax. Also I should mention all these Epstein connected fascist anti democratic tech bros became filthy rich in California so the world should be angry at California for sure
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 23d
There's a solution for that. California could join Canada.
/S
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 23d
Bold of you to assume Canada would accept them.
38% of Californians voted for Trump in 2024. (34% in 2020, 31% in 2016). Canada doesn't want those people.
The USA has to fix its own problems. Don't expect Canada (or anyone else) to come in and fix it for you.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 23d
Honestly Canadians would vote for trump in about the same ratio. :(
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 23d
Conservatives got 33.74% of the vote last election. Now they're in the awkward spot of trying to move away from being Maple-MAGA to being pro-Canada and it's not going well for them.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 23d
Yeah, you wouldn't think it would be a gotcha question to ask a Tory whethwr they support Canada's right to exist as a nation, but here we are.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Alberta voted 92% of their seats to seditionists PCs. Take those idiots out of the equation and Canada could have a proper political landscape.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 20d
Fuck that, the seditionists can move to the US, they're all wannabe Americans anyway. Leave Alberta to the indigenous people and anyone else there that want to remain Canadians.
MartianRecon@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 23d
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23d
I was making a thing where I'm using Trump's own words to showcase how dumb and out of touch he is. You shouldn't take that statement too seriously.
I've added a sarcasm marker to make it more clear.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 22d
With the number of "true believer* zealots around, that is an important thing to do.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 23d
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 23d
I promise, the ruling class in America could not give less of a shit.
Well, maybe if you paid them enough.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 22d
I'm not much of a wine drinker anyway, but this boycott made me discover Quebec's bubbly apple cider made with extra grape stuff in it. It's 9%, dry as a desert, and very refreshing.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Southern Ontario has several award winning wines, and they don't all taste identical like that Mondavi swill from California.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Anything flinty like a Chablis?
orenj@leminal.space · 6 pts · 23d
Lets fucking goooo
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23d
Which kinda sucks because California is not a shithole red state.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 23d
California is still USA, and USA is a rogue nation led by a criminal psychopath.
We know half of USA don't like Trump either, but he is still your President, and the threats and destruction he wields on the world is on America as a country, not Americans as individuals. That means Trumps actions are on behalf of ALL Americans, not just the idiots that voted for him.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 23d
Still a part of a shithole country. If they want me to buy their stuff they should secede.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 23d
Almost 40% of Californians voted for Trump in 2024.
MartianRecon@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 23d
41% of Canadians voted for Pierre last election.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 21d
And Doug Ford has a job for life in Ontario.
MartianRecon@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 21d
Exactly.
'Online' Canadians forget there are a ton of conservative Canadians out there, and while Canada is more insulated than the US towards a strategic take over (gerrymandering, voter suppression etc) than we are, it still very much could happen there.
That hubris needs to be addressed in my mind.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 22d
41% of Canadians voted for a conservative party candidate.
A minority of the people in Carlton voted for Polierve, and then 80% of the people in Battle River—Crowfoot voted for him after he went searching for a safe space.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
California is full of Right wing Republicans.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22d
ftfy.
thefool@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 22d
boo hoo
I'm now crying in my beer*.
*from Beau's brewery in Vankleek Hill, ON
flock_of_nazguls@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23d
Boo fucking hoo.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 pts · 23d
Halal economic devastation.