'You've got no choice': The $1,475 fee leaving some in Australia feeling 'captive'
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australia-resident-return-visa-fee-increase/d7dtueyky
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australia-resident-return-visa-fee-increase/d7dtueyky
19 Comments
dellish@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d
The increased revenue supports the reform of increased revenue? What is this garbage?
I see a lot of comments here blaming the victim, but let's be hi est: Australia's visas and passports are stupidly expensive when compared to the rest of the world. I don't see how an overnight 200% increase in cost is remotely warranted, especially when the justification is this bullshit quote above.
Seagoon_@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 22d
not captive, not no choice
yoona is choosing, she just doesn't like that there isn't a perfect choice
I suggest yoona and her family tackle the problem where it originates, the plummet of wages in Australia since the 1970s
Australians now earn one third of what they did in the 70s, that is why everything feels expensive
Cypher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 22d
Yes the non-citizen should be responsible for fixing Australia's wage stagnation.
Do you even think about the things you comment?
budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 22d
The problem originates with South Korea's rules, not Australia. From the article:
Seagoon_@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 22d
there is also the issue of money
Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 23d
Oh that's bullshit. Although 9 years on a pr with a spouse? Get a citizenship already.
arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 23d
A few paragraphs in. I wouldn't make the same choice, myself, but I'm not her, so..
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 23d
It was nine years in Australia and married and with PR. Not all of those things happen at the same time.
But regardless, there can be very good reasons why Koreans living in Australia may wait longer to give up their citizenship. Australia has awful (basically non-existent) public dental care that practically forces anyone other than those with a government health care card (who have a very long wait to be seen), regardless of income, to pay for private dental (or just ignore their oral health). Korea has universal dental care that is very affordable and of a high standard. This is particularly important for those who have more serious dental issues from childhood or genetics.
If you have sick or older relatives back home, the freedom to travel back and stay for a long time (5 years) at short notice can also be really important. There are alternative solutions that could be done from the other way around (Australian applying for a Korean visa) but none are as quick and easy, or as flexible, as the Resident Return visa. It's pretty much instant.
I wouldn't cast judgement over anyone in this position but definitely not without knowing their personal circumstances first. The idea of renouncing your birth citizenship is probably very easy and painless for those who will never be in a position to consider it.
YeahToast@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 22d
There's plenty of countries that don't allow dual citizenship. Relinquishing your right or ability to return to your birth country is no small decision
budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 22d
The misleading headline quote is contradicted by the article.
She literally has a choice. She could choose to give up her SK citizenship. She could also choose not to travel at all. Those might have a lot of downsides, even worse than the $1475 fee, so she might be making the best possible choice for her, but it's still a choice.
awaysaway@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 22d
this is not a reasonable take when asking whether or not this fee is extractive and exploitative.
budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 22d
My "take" is that the misleading headline quote is misleading and clickbait and ABC should be better with their titles. They could have come up with many other better sentences - even using a phrase such as "extractive and exploitative" in the headline. How about something simple like "Visa fee for permanent residents raised to $1,475"
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
I just won't travel outside Australia, then.
manniesalado@piefed.social · 1 pts · 23d
They should put the price for a 5 year Aussie passport up to $1,475 as well, so as not to discriminate.
sys110x@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 23d
Walk me through this logic? Why should people that choose to join (or are born in) Australian citizenry pay more to make it fair for a limitation of RoK citizenship?
Let's discuss whether the visa fee is too high, for sure. But suggesting a penalty for Australian citizens to "not discriminate" against someone that has chosen not to become a citizen is absolutely ludicrous to me.
manniesalado@piefed.social · 4 pts · 23d
It's a horrible charge, nothing but a discriminatory money grab. So grab money from everyone, then at least it's not discriminatory.
sys110x@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 23d
I initially thought you meant discrimination between rich and poor, but "grab money from everyone" still discriminates against people that can't afford the visa/passport.
Citizens have rights and eligibilities that non-citizens don't. That's not discrimination that needs to be addressed; it's national sovereignty. Non-citizens aren't eligible for HECS, aren't eligible to vote, aren't eligible for a passport, and aren't eligible for federal jobs. Non-citizens aren't eligible for these because they are not Australian.
Live here and choose to become an Australian, or live here and choose to not become an Australian. Choose the latter and you'll need a visa.
For the record; I think the Returning Resident visa fee is exorbitant. I also think the suggestion that Australians should pay more so it's fair for non-Australians is ridiculous.
budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 22d
Regarding the "rich and poor", international travel is generally beyond the means of the poor anyway, depending on where you draw the line. I'd rather see high fees on stuff like passports and have public dental care and other essentials funded.
eatham@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 23d
Or it could be cheaper for everyone, we already have the world's most expensive passport