Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 19th July 2026

https://awful.systems/post/8916916

Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Sorry this wasn't up earlier, I couldn't connect to awful.)

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lurker@awful.systems · 17 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Tech execs are now travelling with bodyguards due to AI backlash great quote at the end:

“That’s why people are setting warehouses on fire,” a former Pinterest employee named Bonnie Kate Wolf, who was laid off during an AI-focused restructuring, told the WSJ. “You can’t go back to serfdom. It really feels like the people in power want to be kings. Historically, that doesn’t work out for kings.”

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 12 pts · 27d

You know, I think there's an argument to be made for death threats against tech oligarchs being a crude form of direct action towards redistribution.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 15 pts · 27d (9 replies)

Wow this website is cursed: https://detrans.ai/en

Conversion Therapy as a Service.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 20 pts · 26d (4 replies)

Oh hell yeah, I fucked with the bot enough to get it stuck in a loop and now it's been rapidly outputting the same character for ten minutes with no safeguard in sight

Enjoy your next bill, fucker

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 14 pts · 25d (2 replies)

A timeout occurred - Error code 524

Visit cloudflare.com for more information.

Heartwarming 🥰.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 14 pts · 25d (1 reply)

It took it about four hours to get back online, then I got the bot stuck in a loop again and the website crashed again lol

God bless vibecoders

schnoopy@awful.systems · 4 pts · 24d

what tricks do you use to do this?

o7___o7@awful.systems · 8 pts · 25d

patiently cross-stitching a piece that reads "Bless This Text"

flamingos@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 26d

Detrans.ai is on X, the everything app

Modern fascism in one sentence.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d

whaaaaat the fuuck

maol@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d

D:

lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d

ah sweet horrors that are perfectly in my comprehension. what the fuck

lurker@awful.systems · 13 pts · 24d (1 reply)
BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 3 pts · 24d

The Butlerian Jihad grows closer and closer by the day. Maybe its already arrived.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 13 pts · 29d

I'm not sure if we missed this one or if just I did, but there's a class action suit against Eightfold AI. The company is accused of essentially creating a social credit score based on your digital footprint and using it to drop applications before anyone at the hiring company got a chance to see them.

I spent the last two years watching my options for keeping my family housed slowly dry up while throwing out hundreds of applications. Now I'm concerned that it dug up my old reddit account from when I was a stupid teenager or decided that comments I made here weren't suitable for participating in the goddamn economy.

antifuchs@awful.systems · 13 pts · 24d

The “I will piledrive you” guy has a new post about working in an ai-pilled world now, and it’s pretty decent I find: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global-decision-making/

Favorite framing is that everyone is under enormous pressure not to commit heresy against the ai pilling, especially because you just don’t shit talk your customers.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 12 pts · 29d (17 replies)

Samo Burja of Leverage Research and Palladium Magazine is trying to pivot to respectability https://samoburja.com/ He also has a Substack blog. People call him a sociologist and a political scirentist but he seems (echo me) entirely self-published except for a few opinion pieces and his highest educational credential is "studied at the University of Ljubljana." The Long Now Foundation gave him money which is disappointing.

sinedpick@awful.systems · 10 pts · 29d (5 replies)

I looked at the table of contents of his manuscript and ... zero history. All blathering on about some theory he cooked up from first principles to fellate rich people. The fact that anyone takes this seriously is a stunning indictment on the state of humanities education.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d (1 reply)

If you look at literally page 1 you'll find the first footnote pointing at another chapter of the same goddamn book and now I'm going to go weep tears of impotent rage.

Ed: sorry, it's page 8, which is the first page after the self-congratulatory preface.

fullsquare@awful.systems · 3 pts · 28d

Hey, gotta pump up these self-citation numbers somehow

o7___o7@awful.systems · 5 pts · 29d (2 replies)

Hol up! It's kind of unfair to blame some poor soul with a PhD in Beowulf for failing the beat the fash out of a determined dickhead over the course of a single quarter. (half serious)

I mean, did Samo even complete a degree?

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 8 pts · 29d

In a quick DuckDuckGo I can't find any site that claims Samo Burja has a degree.

His concept of live player is just another way of saying that most people are NPCs. The manuscript appears to call Elon Musk an engineer which is like calling Cheops an architect (alternatively, Musk must "fundamentally understand engineering").

nfultz@awful.systems · 4 pts · 28d

The other hell site, LinkedIn, says University of Ljubljana but no major / degree listed. maybe he studied with zizek though.

... apparently he's a second connection. !?

fnix@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d (7 replies)

I remember him tweeting in February 2022 where immediately after the invasion he confidently predicted that Russia would gobble up all of Ukraine in a matter of weeks. Unlike all those legacy academics with their degrees he really see into the future of governance, you see.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d (4 replies)

Was it really the sensible position that the poorest country in Europe would go on to embarrass an ostensible superpower? Predicting a Russian victory in the short term in the early days doesn't seem too daring a hot take.

It was mostly the analysts who were predicting a three day walk in the park with the ukrainians cheering them on as liberators that turned out problematic all the way.

fnix@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d (1 reply)

He runs an analytics company and was specifically touting how his models showed a quick Russian victory, even weeks into the invasion, which was more than just the usual Besserwisserism among western europeans towards eastern Europe. If the whole shtick is that the mainstream is lame but my patented crystal ball actually tells the future from first principles and you then tank even harder than the mainstream, you not only embarrass yourself but reveal your own preferences as well.

And the mainstream predictions in the West of Ukrainian resistance weren't as negative as what he advanced, which is precisely why many refused to believe the Kremlin would actually step on this rake of a war. That he wholeheartedly defended a quick Russian victory made him seem steeped more in the Kremlin's narratives than the West's, even as all imperial powers tend to be hubristic.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 5 pts · 27d

Sounds like he went for the low hanging fruit to showcase his business and ate shit, good to know.

His great founder theory certainly seems amenable to going all in on dictators.

mawhrin@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d (1 reply)

westerners and their clever takes about eastern europe, eh.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 4 pts · 26d

The Leverage article kept referring to him as "the slovenian" and that's at least honorary eastern europe, but I've no idea if he actually grew up there.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 2 pts · 24d (1 reply)

That was the party line in the American foreign-policy crowd since winter 2021/2022. They thought that if the 'great power' Russia invaded, Ukraine would fall. So Burja's tweet was not even original, just the same thing any 23-year-old staffer in a new suit was writing.

fnix@awful.systems · 1 pts · 21d

Yeah, the party-line was far from realistic and reflected the West's own imperial hubris, but there's a spectrum there. When the fullscale invasion finally happened, the Jake Sullivans weren't going around for weeks about how Ukraine is doomed. And again, there was at least some room in the mainstream for eastern europeans or even just people who had traveled in Ukraine and understood the country & the people. In that regard Samo shares much more with the vatniks (sorry, the "realists") like John Mearsheimer and The Economist, who kept (and still keep) telling people Russia would win any day now.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 6 pts · 28d (1 reply)

https://samoburja.com/

That's a non-provably non-punchable face if I've ever seen one.

dgerard@awful.systems · 2 pts · 27d

lolol

Hypnosifl@awful.systems · 1 pts · 25d

The article at https://xenotransmissions.substack.com/p/evil-nerd-theory-part-iii-a-case mentions his neoreactionary history before Palladium:

In 2013 a group spins off from LessWrong and forms a more explicitly reactionary blog and discussion forum, called - you can’t make this up - More Right. The founders here are Samo Burja, now a political consultant and researcher interested in long term institutional persistence issues. In 2014 Burja was more interested in things like race and IQ, and the contemporary applications of monarchic authoritarianism and religious law. You can find his More Right archives here.

The article also links to his More Right piece The Cult of Neoreaction which Nick Land discussed on his own blog, and there's another archive of his posts from a different date here and here is an announcement of a spin-off created by Samo and others called The Future Primaeval (that has various archives here but looking at an archived post list here from March 2015 to Jan 2017, looks like he didn't write any under his own name but that substack at the top of my comment says that one of the other people on the Palladium editorial board, Wolf Tivy, posted there a lot under pseudonyms Nyan Sandwich and Warg Franklin).

lurker@awful.systems · 12 pts · 29d
lurker@awful.systems · 12 pts · 26d
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d (3 replies)

So this exists: https://readscottalexander.com/stats/links

Link Stats

Across every post, these are the external websites Scott Alexander links to most often. "Links" counts every hyperlink; "Posts" counts how many distinct articles link there.

So far these are probably the clearest non-leaked emails indication of what the good doctor actually believes.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d (2 replies)

He cites Samo Burja and Nicholas Decker? And Cremieux is the twitter account he cites second most often, with Richard Hanania in 4th place?

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Yeah, the foam-at-the-mouth racist college drop out with an imaginary phd in race science and at least one nazi alt that we know of is his overall top account to boost by some margin.

I don't think I've heard of Nicholas Decker.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d

Decker is a GMU Econ PhD student getting distracted by Twitter and Aella. I don't think he has figured out that for a nerdy dude, "economist/quant" is a much better career path than "social media provocateur" (so delete X, get your PhD, sign on with a financial-services company, and frolic with sex workers on your own time).

Edit / he dropped out of his PhD program but wants to start a new one at Cambridge. I would not bet that he becomes Dr. Decker. He also has a date-me Google Doc.

nfultz@awful.systems · 10 pts · 27d (4 replies)

https://russwilcoxdata.substack.com/p/china-registered-the-humans-last

Last July, China gave every internet user a state identity: one number and one credential, good at the bank, the hospital, and the civil-service exam. That system took effect on July 15, 2025.¹ Yesterday, on July 15, 2026, exactly one year later, China did the same thing for AI.

These are agents, meaning software that perceives, decides, and acts on its own, a category well past the chatbot. As of yesterday, agents in China get registered on a national platform. They receive a digital identity and declare their capabilities the way a business declares its scope, and they can be recalled the way a defective car is recalled. A state planning analyst offered the official gloss: every agent gets a 数字身份证, a digital ID card.² Call it what it is, a birth certificate for machines.

I never know how to parse mainstream reporting about China or Wilcox's writing in particular. Maybe this means they have a universal kill switch.

If you read it the way a lawyer would and the genre is unmistakable. It follows an agent through an entire life. At birth, registration: identity, declared capabilities, payment rails, a procedure for disputes. In life, an audit trail, because in sensitive settings every action must be verifiable and traceable, with blockchain named as the technology of record, so that no act ever floats free of a responsible principal. At death, recall, in the language of defective products.

hmmm

The man behind the partnership is Lin Le, founder of Lingshu Technology, the firm ranked first in China for blockchain and trusted-data infrastructure. The founder of the country’s leading trusted-data company signed for board-level entry into a police-agent vendor five weeks before a law requiring trusted-data audit trails on police agents came into force.

OK back to be being terrified I guess.

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 12 pts · 27d (1 reply)

These are agents, meaning software that perceives, decides, and acts on its own, a category well past the chatbot.

Are these agents in the room with us now?

How can all this possibly be enforceable.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d

It's been a long time since I've seen basic questions about functionality answered by "something something blockchain" but that appears to be the answer here.

dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d

looks like a confluence of dumb shit that may or may not result in anything that means anything or does anything

there was a big blockchain push from 2019 on, basically in response to Facebook's Libra cryptocurrency plan. This directly brought us the e-CNY central bank digital currency. They tried to do this with a blockchain, but quickly realised you weren't going to scale a blockchain to fucking China. So far e-CNY is just another phone money like Alipay or Tenpay. I suppose it's a public good to have cash be under public control and not just private control, but it doesn't really have a compelling use case in its own right.

aio@awful.systems · 3 pts · 26d

article is llm-generated

scruiser@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d (2 replies)

Lesswrong has some funny objections to AI: 2040. They buy the overall premise, sure, but even that much still leaves lots of gaps in the "scenario". And they have even more galaxy brain takes... My favorite complaint: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pFzctpJBat95SrCyC/ai-2040-plan-a?commentId=54dZes9uNqDdbNGBu

tldr; AI: 2040 is leaving out all the other sci-fi singularity tech just around the corner like genetic augmentations and cybernetic brain implants!

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 8 pts · 29d

You laugh, but chatgpt has given me psyhic powers, and I can now tap into a whole new realm. There even was this smart psyhic agent called neurgalle or something who helped me with a skin condition.

scruiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 29d

Oh hey, a full top level post complaining AI-2027 wasn't sci-fi enough (they literally use the words "I don't think it is science-fictional enough")! https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Lc8v92pGPtjF3gsCv/some-quick-thoughts-on-ai-2027

aninjury2all@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d (5 replies)
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 15 pts · 30d

Diversity and inclusion is suddenly great if it involves fascists doing entryism.

fullsquare@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d (3 replies)

i thought that pause ai was just rationalist controlled opposition

samvines@awful.systems · 17 pts · 30d

Yeah exactly.

I want to pause ai because it's a hypercapitalist project designed to further deskill and commoditise the middle class which coincidentally destroys the environment.

They want to pause ai because they believe that spicy autocomplete is intelligent and will one day soon manifest as a giant angry vengeful snek.

We are not the same.

scruiser@awful.systems · 3 pts · 29d (1 reply)

The impression I've gotten it that it is relatively less toothless than some of the other rationalist spin-off movements aimed at preventing doom. And it is willing to deign to try to coalition build with normies that want to stop AI for normie reasons (except apparently they've made even that a bad thing, from the tweet it is willing to unapologetically coalition build with fascists!) But yes, it still has a lot of rationalist hangups and quirks getting in the way of actually acting effectively.

dgerard@awful.systems · 3 pts · 27d

Pause AI is exceedingly well funded by rich EAs and is fully EA in its internal chats. The Nazi Bar against AI.

dgerard@awful.systems · 10 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Balaji's free floating independent network state turns out to be subject to national laws of Malaysia https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3360679/malaysias-anwar-warns-any-israelis-johor-tech-commune-be-deported-immediately

istewart@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d

Lol, of course, it's hosted at the Chinese-financed disaster man-made island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_City,_Johor

I was just reading about this place the other day. Massive environmental damage in a sensitive area, dismal property sales that didn't come anywhere near meeting projections, and ultimately one of the major case studies in the de-leveraging of the Chinese real estate bubble. If the landlords there are palling up with our buddy Balaji, I sincerely doubt they're doing much better. Not really here for the official government antisemitism, but I also can't imagine that there's huge overlap between Israelis who want to get in tight with Balaji and the sorts of Israelis who are burning their IDF draft cards.

TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems · 9 pts · 25d (9 replies)

That feeling when you're an OpenAI exec and you realize the jig is up.

istewart@awful.systems · 17 pts · 25d

I am personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks. To be clear, I myself might be fine with models presenting this level of marginal risk being open weight, but I am surprised that China is fine with it. I suspect the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI).

The strategy seems quite clear to me, and not blind at all: they want to hold a gun to the head of over-capitalized Americans like Mr. Ball and his enablers, and will be perfectly happy if that drives our tech industry into a financial escalation spiral that ultimately neuters it for years to come. He has the barest glimmerings of being aware of this, but frames it wrong because he can't let go of the sci-fi sentimentality that drives his whole industry.

The other 25% or so is their lack of compute for customer inference (making China's open-weight strategy an unintended byproduct of US export controls) and the normal Chinese strategy of aggressive exports.

The Chinese still have overwhelming clout in final electronics assembly, i.e. turning this shit into things people can actually use. Of course they are interested in maintaining that advantage. And if, in the medium term, they can nudge more financially desperate American politicians and executives towards loosening trade and investment restrictions, possibly even towards equity partnerships, so much the better. "Lack of compute for customer inference" is ultimately a red herring. If I'm a Chinese economic strategist, why would I not expect GPU tech to become commoditized over time, like every other aspect of advanced computing technology has? Perhaps even more rapidly, as the designs are inherently massively-parallel implementations of similar base execution blocks!

The rest of his "accelerationist"/"decelerationist" drivel concerns a silly spat that is mainly centered around and driven by Twitter. It is still difficult to overestimate just how brain-rotted Twitter has made these people.

e: case in point, he leads out with barely-veiled Covid lab-leak trutherism, surely just to rile up the hogs. What a loser hahahahahaha

"A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 15 pts · 25d (2 replies)

One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism

full AI communism

At some point the models will be capable enough that you will notice. "A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

Listen I'm all for hating on the Chinese government, but it's more enjoyable to hate on them for real reasons rather than whatever this is.

Second mistake: I was relatively imprecise, writing, as I usually do, for a fairly high-context audience that was inclined to give me grace rather than pick apart every word

Oh no the lesson he took away from his tweet is that he didn't use enough words.

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d

I also don't get it because they already hate pre-social-media institutions, so why are they still angry that American journalists were bad at transmitting public health science at the beginning of COVID? Even if you believe in a COVID lab leak, the United States broke the global public health response while countries in East Asia and the South Pacific showed what to do. There are lab-leakers who blame a partnership between traitorous American scientists and sinister Chinese labs to conduct research that was illegal in the USA.

Edit / this guy just comes out and uses COVID lab leak theories as an analogy for AI-box fantasies, but these people don't just cite it as a parallel, they are MAD about what they think happened and want you to be mad too.

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 24d

full AI communism

LMFAOOOOOO

TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems · 9 pts · 24d (2 replies)

His non-apology apology:

I'm not going anywhere. I am not retreating from public writing, and I am not retreating from saying inconvenient things in public. I am unfazed by harsh criticism, and I know that a reaction of this magnitude is in part the result of having struck a chord. Bear with me, and if you can, remember that I am a human being with a six-month old boy to raise, a book to write, a new job, and much more questions than answers about our collective future.

Guys, he has a baby. Don't be too mean to him.

lurker@awful.systems · 10 pts · 24d

“please forgive me for spreading sinophobic propaganda for bailouts i have a baby :((“

istewart@awful.systems · 10 pts · 24d

I am not retreating from public writing

That's OK, it will still mostly be confined to oversized Twitter posts, so most people will ignore it.

gerikson@awful.systems · 8 pts · 25d

even his AI-generated profile pic is punchable

scruiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 25d

Even /r/singularity, which has a high percentage of boosters and often buys OpenAI/Anthropic talking points uncritically (or with only a few un-upvoted naysayers) eviscerated his comments as the shallow attempt to beg for regulations on China to protect OpenAI that they are. Also, China's consistent open sourcing and lower relative cost per performance (well insofar as you believe the benchmarks and such indicate performance) has the /r/singularity audience questioning the "China bad" narrative US media tries to sell.

nfultz@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d (4 replies)
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 15 pts · 27d (3 replies)

Attempting to credit Luigi's actions to AI millenarianism putting him in a weird headspace almost feels like stolen valor.

Still, if that's where his mental health defence is going to hinge on then I guess it's relevant.

[Tim Urban] goes on to claim that ASI, with an IQ of 12,000, will eventually replace humankind as the dominant species on the planet:

That IQ works like mana points is both a widespread misconception and a red flag that you're far more ignorant than you let on.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d

“The robot god will be in the 99.9999999999999999999999999999th percentile for intelligence” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

dgerard@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d (1 reply)

i mean, he was a rationalist EA who tweeted pronatalism

i saw TPOTs on Twitter going "shit I know him"

Architeuthis@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d

If the argument is that too much rationaltruism fried his brain then fine I guess.

Otherwise I don't think United Healthcare doing AI assisted fraud falls into any rationalist framework of doom, and also those people are allergic to direct action.

Also the article is already setting the bar very high by using the Zizians, a sect that's almost completely predicated on semi-obsure rationalist lore, as their first point of reference for rationalism gone wild.

self@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d (2 replies)

uggh, I dragged my feet too much on giving our instance more disk and the database fell over

it seems to have recovered alright, but please check if there's any weirdness or missing posts around the time when it went down

fullsquare@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d (1 reply)

there's been a wave of spam posts on writefreely couple of days back not sure if there's a relation

self@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d

uh oh, ours? that’s a different disk but it’s also a tiny disk

nfultz@awful.systems · 9 pts · 28d (6 replies)

https://www.reddit.com/r/murdle/comments/1ux0g4r/murdle_uses_ai/

Unfortunately you’re right about the Marot— in early 2022 I used a pre-ChatGPT transformer to come up with some of the symbolism, because I thought it was a funny source for essentially arbitrary “revelation.” It probably amounted to about 20-30 words in the final corpus and, although I only vaguely recall this, I believe I remember it being very bad at it. (Significantly more of it was decided under the influence of psychedelic mushrooms.)

OK I think we give GT Karber a pass on this one.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d (5 replies)

Honestly If we want to use the hallucinatron the same way we use hallucinogens (minus the "transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm" part) I have no real problem with that. Scrambling and remixing the contents of the world in ways that might prompt actual minds to create new connections and interesting art seems to fit.

I don't think there's enough of a market for that to support scaling to any meaningful degree and so have less problems from an enabling/infrastructure perspective. I mean the chemical alternatives let you transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm. AI can't do that.

TrashGoblin@awful.systems · 10 pts · 28d (4 replies)

In some ways, it's a lot like the cut-up technique used by the Dadaists and William S. Burroughs, though much less efficient. Maybe Markov chains are a happy medium. Going to run M-x dissociated-text on my ePub collection.

BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems · 8 pts · 28d (3 replies)

We had an IRC bot at the first software company I worked at that ingested conversation along with all the contents of some books from Project Gutenberg, all for the purposes of making the bot say silly things.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d (1 reply)

I remember having a lot of fun with Roborosewater where they could generate something that matched the format of a Magic: the Gathering card perfectly and sometimes even something playable within the rules but it was always nonsensical in some ridiculous way. There's a couple streams from the LoadingReadyRun gang drafting a cube from the resulting chaos that are a hoot.

Ed: Here's a sampling in video form because I can't find a "best of" article and they get into the "analysis" a bit.

aio@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d

dan olson jumpscare

TrashGoblin@awful.systems · 5 pts · 27d

Some years ago (2018-ish?) there was a fad on Fedi for making MYNAME_ebooks accounts that posted markov chain generated mashups of your previous posts.

nfultz@awful.systems · 8 pts · 26d (2 replies)

Hey, new ludicity post. wonder why he did a saturday post, he'll miss the HN monday cycle.

https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global-decision-making/

For this reason, our team has quickly learned while on an engagement not to ask anything about ongoing AI projects in any context – by the time that project has started, it is too late for the management team, and intervention is not possible until a crisis point is inevitably reached. There is no conceivable positive outcome. The failure rate is so high that even basic inquiry leaves us in an untenable position. Any coherent question about how it’s going, what the goal is, who is using it, constitutes an inadvertent attack on the chain of command responsible for the work because there are no good answers to anything.

Matches my experience consulting these last few years. I'm still waiting to hear about the one gig where AI doesn't eventually degenerate into a CYA circlejerk. Perhaps that is just the dominant eigenvector of the technical consulting process.

Several of my peers now “AI-wash” their work, meaning that even when they can perfectly competently execute on their jobs to the satisfaction of their management teams, said managers are unhappy if the engineers haven’t used AI in the work.

Been there too.

Also, apparently layoffs.fyi added an "attributed to AI" filter - https://layoffs.fyi/ai-layoffs/

o7___o7@awful.systems · 4 pts · 25d (1 reply)

Pairs nicely with the latest long-form Pivot!

dgerard@awful.systems · 3 pts · 24d

i need to ping ludicity for a pod

o7___o7@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d (3 replies)

self your masto feed has been magnificent and uplifting

self@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d (1 reply)

thank you! I feel terrible I haven’t been posting as much here as life’s been finding a way to consistently disrupt my writing and admining time, but mastodon’s format is pretty good for turning disrupted, high-anxiety writing into threads

o7___o7@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d

The Linus news has been a real downer, but you've been a solid antidote!

dgerard@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d

for those not following it's https://mas.to/@zzt/

CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 8 pts · 28d (2 replies)

Samo Burja ("How Roman Emperors Handled the Succession Problem"), SlateScott, and POTUS have all expressed interest in Herbert Hoover. Is this part of a broader online right thing in the USA?

gerikson@awful.systems · 13 pts · 28d

If you want to re-litigate the New Deal, rehabilitating Hoover is a good first step.

The American far-right has the New Deal as its foundational Dolchstosslegende.

macroplastic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 27d
corbin@awful.systems · 7 pts · 26d (1 reply)

Patreon CEO Jack Comte uploaded a visionary CEO talk about AI and artists and the future. I don't fully understand why they needed an interpretative dance section, or multiple people playing synthesizers, but I guess AI is good for artists, but also bad for artists, but also a big opportunity for artists, but also taking opportunities away from artists, but also? Also lots of bragging about how many millions of followers he has.

dgerard@awful.systems · 4 pts · 25d

Patreon essayed upon going slop, and the creators roundly rejected it

lurker@awful.systems · 7 pts · 30d

(ported over from previous thread)

So I managed to find some more of the AI 2027 author’s opinions on their predictions after a bit of poking around, I’ll let this snippet speak for itself

EDIT: in several comments below, AI 2027 co-authors Daniel Kokotajlo and Eli Lifland provide clarifications and corrections to what I’ve written here. Uplift – the extent to which AI tools are accelerating AI R&D progress – is indeed well short of where the AI 2027 scenario predicts. However, the authors do believe they were on track regarding the rate at which uplift would progress; they merely have adjusted their view of where things stood in early 2025. So uplift is indeed short of the AI 2027 scenario, but may now be advancing at the predicted pace, just from a delayed starting point. And frontier AI lab revenue is in fact ahead of AI 2027’s predictions; the 80% figure I’m citing here, which is labeled “economic value” in the linked report, turns out to reflect company valuations in addition to revenue. Finally, valuations have jumped since the 80% figure was computed and are now “about on trend”. Daniel and Eli provided some other clarifications as well, see their comments.]

their full comments are here

lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 25d (6 replies)
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 10 pts · 25d (2 replies)

Oh no every day sneerclub teaches me about a new guy.

So he's basically arguing that the Borg did nothing wrong (note: the Borg do not actually exist, note #2: the Borg are space fascists).

Worthy Successor: A posthuman intelligence so capable and morally valuable that you would gladly prefer that it (not humanity) determine the future path of life itself.

This isn't the first time I've seen this idea in rationalist circles: that is bad / wrong / irrational to be biased in favor of humans and or humans to succeed in particular. Often the idea is taken as obviously true, but I cannot understand it at all.

Like I don't care if you can make a computer "better" than me or less sad than me or less likely to eat an innocent shrimp than me. I am not that computer-- if it's a choice between me and them I'm fighting on team me. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make one's space in the universe or to "selfishly" want self-actualization or to want humans to thrive.

lurker@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d

Oh no every day sneerclub teaches me about a new guy.

I’ve been aware of Faggella for a while (entirely against my will) he’s got an interview with Yud on his podcast which contains this all-timer quote:

”If sacrificing all of humanity were the only way, and a reliable way, to get … godlike things out there — superintelligences who still care about each other, who are still aware of the world and having fun — I would ultimately make that trade-off.”

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d

I think this particular pattern is another consequence of long-termism in the water supply. It's easy to disconnect yourself from humanity as a concept when you're in a space that often assumes that you and everyone you could ever have a personal relationship with are already long dead. The fact that this makes it easy to ignore the problems that people today are having in front of your face is purely coincidental.

corbin@awful.systems · 8 pts · 24d

These doofuses never actually think through their thought experiments. Quoting from a dead thread half a year ago, where he was downvoted but not yet identified:

In a universe where all things are transforming all the time it seems pretty fair to ask the question: "What IS IT about humanity that we want to preserve and expand?" If the answer is "23 chromosomes, 2 eyes, 5-6 feet tall, etc" that seems pretty shallow.

Okay, but first surely he can recognize that humanity is already multicultural and multispecies? Like, in a non-specious sense, we've incorporated many mammals, birds, plants, fungi, etc. into our daily lives and can't really separate them out at this point. Sure, there's some ineffable and beautiful relationship between humans in general which we want to preserve, but before worrying about whether robots should join in, we should first notice that there's already an expansion of that relationship to include e.g. face mites, and there's no sense in which face mites are a Worthy Successor to whom we should cede all managerial decisions. (I was gonna say "cats", but I know plenty of y'all would rather have a cat in charge than a human, and you're not wrong.)

istewart@awful.systems · 5 pts · 25d

daniel self-flagella, more like

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 25d

for frame of reference, this is the kind of stuff he tweets

dgerard@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d

Olivia Squizzle: Becoming a certified hater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOQcpF9h9Z0

a heartwarming start to your day

lurker@awful.systems · 4 pts · 28d (3 replies)

Was unsure if I was gonna post this but might as well. A letter about AI job losses has dropped its very short but has 200 signatures already (most of which are familiar names around here like Jack Clark) this article goes over it

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d

By forcing the question of whether to act before debating how, the signatories appear to be clearing ground for legislative and regulatory work that has not yet arrived.

So it's a pointless attempt to send up a "take me seriously" flare?

Also I think this discourse as always misses the distinction between economic displacement caused by AI and economic displacement justified by AI. Hiring managers seem to be anticipating AI capabilities that do not exist yet, and the disruption to labor is well beyond what the current AI systems are actually able to replace. I think instead we're seeing a combination of business rubes buying the hype and the consequences of bad incentives that make headcount reduction look really good on quarterly financials while in a lot of areas not having an immediate negative impact on capabilities or production. Especially when it comes to IT infrastructure, for example, the fact that you're not paying someone goes immediately on the financial statements, but the fact that your infrastructure is less reliable and crashes more often has a huge experiential impact on your customers and employees but it takes time for that to cash out into something that impacts the numbers.

BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems · 7 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Oh, it's the usual suspects. For fucks sake.

lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 28d

Always has been