Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid - welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Sorry this wasn't up earlier, I couldn't connect to awful.)
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lurker@awful.systems · 17 pts · 27d
Tech execs are now travelling with bodyguards due to AI backlash great quote at the end:
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 12 pts · 27d
You know, I think there's an argument to be made for death threats against tech oligarchs being a crude form of direct action towards redistribution.
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 15 pts · 27d
Wow this website is cursed: https://detrans.ai/en
Conversion Therapy as a Service.
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 20 pts · 26d
Oh hell yeah, I fucked with the bot enough to get it stuck in a loop and now it's been rapidly outputting the same character for ten minutes with no safeguard in sight
Enjoy your next bill, fucker
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 14 pts · 25d
Heartwarming 🥰.
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 14 pts · 25d
It took it about four hours to get back online, then I got the bot stuck in a loop again and the website crashed again lol
God bless vibecoders
schnoopy@awful.systems · 4 pts · 24d
what tricks do you use to do this?
o7___o7@awful.systems · 8 pts · 25d
patiently cross-stitching a piece that reads "Bless This Text"
flamingos@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 26d
Modern fascism in one sentence.
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d
whaaaaat the fuuck
maol@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d
D:
lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d
ah sweet horrors that are perfectly in my comprehension. what the fuck
lurker@awful.systems · 13 pts · 24d
Climate activists pelt AI data centres with acid balloons
GOOD FOR THEM
BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 3 pts · 24d
The Butlerian Jihad grows closer and closer by the day. Maybe its already arrived.
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 13 pts · 29d
I'm not sure if we missed this one or if just I did, but there's a class action suit against Eightfold AI. The company is accused of essentially creating a social credit score based on your digital footprint and using it to drop applications before anyone at the hiring company got a chance to see them.
I spent the last two years watching my options for keeping my family housed slowly dry up while throwing out hundreds of applications. Now I'm concerned that it dug up my old reddit account from when I was a stupid teenager or decided that comments I made here weren't suitable for participating in the goddamn economy.
antifuchs@awful.systems · 13 pts · 24d
The “I will piledrive you” guy has a new post about working in an ai-pilled world now, and it’s pretty decent I find: https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global-decision-making/
Favorite framing is that everyone is under enormous pressure not to commit heresy against the ai pilling, especially because you just don’t shit talk your customers.
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 12 pts · 29d
Samo Burja of Leverage Research and Palladium Magazine is trying to pivot to respectability https://samoburja.com/ He also has a Substack blog. People call him a sociologist and a political scirentist but he seems (echo me) entirely self-published except for a few opinion pieces and his highest educational credential is "studied at the University of Ljubljana." The Long Now Foundation gave him money which is disappointing.
sinedpick@awful.systems · 10 pts · 29d
I looked at the table of contents of his manuscript and ... zero history. All blathering on about some theory he cooked up from first principles to fellate rich people. The fact that anyone takes this seriously is a stunning indictment on the state of humanities education.
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d
If you look at literally page 1 you'll find the first footnote pointing at another chapter of the same goddamn book and now I'm going to go weep tears of impotent rage.
Ed: sorry, it's page 8, which is the first page after the self-congratulatory preface.
fullsquare@awful.systems · 3 pts · 28d
Hey, gotta pump up these self-citation numbers somehow
o7___o7@awful.systems · 5 pts · 29d
Hol up! It's kind of unfair to blame some poor soul with a PhD in Beowulf for failing the beat the fash out of a determined dickhead over the course of a single quarter. (half serious)
I mean, did Samo even complete a degree?
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 8 pts · 29d
In a quick DuckDuckGo I can't find any site that claims Samo Burja has a degree.
His concept of live player is just another way of saying that most people are NPCs. The manuscript appears to call Elon Musk an engineer which is like calling Cheops an architect (alternatively, Musk must "fundamentally understand engineering").
nfultz@awful.systems · 4 pts · 28d
The other hell site, LinkedIn, says University of Ljubljana but no major / degree listed. maybe he studied with zizek though.
... apparently he's a second connection. !?
fnix@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d
I remember him tweeting in February 2022 where immediately after the invasion he confidently predicted that Russia would gobble up all of Ukraine in a matter of weeks. Unlike all those legacy academics with their degrees he really see into the future of governance, you see.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d
Was it really the sensible position that the poorest country in Europe would go on to embarrass an ostensible superpower? Predicting a Russian victory in the short term in the early days doesn't seem too daring a hot take.
It was mostly the analysts who were predicting a three day walk in the park with the ukrainians cheering them on as liberators that turned out problematic all the way.
fnix@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
He runs an analytics company and was specifically touting how his models showed a quick Russian victory, even weeks into the invasion, which was more than just the usual Besserwisserism among western europeans towards eastern Europe. If the whole shtick is that the mainstream is lame but my patented crystal ball actually tells the future from first principles and you then tank even harder than the mainstream, you not only embarrass yourself but reveal your own preferences as well.
And the mainstream predictions in the West of Ukrainian resistance weren't as negative as what he advanced, which is precisely why many refused to believe the Kremlin would actually step on this rake of a war. That he wholeheartedly defended a quick Russian victory made him seem steeped more in the Kremlin's narratives than the West's, even as all imperial powers tend to be hubristic.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 5 pts · 27d
Sounds like he went for the low hanging fruit to showcase his business and ate shit, good to know.
His great founder theory certainly seems amenable to going all in on dictators.
mawhrin@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d
westerners and their clever takes about eastern europe, eh.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 4 pts · 26d
The Leverage article kept referring to him as "the slovenian" and that's at least honorary eastern europe, but I've no idea if he actually grew up there.
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 2 pts · 24d
That was the party line in the American foreign-policy crowd since winter 2021/2022. They thought that if the 'great power' Russia invaded, Ukraine would fall. So Burja's tweet was not even original, just the same thing any 23-year-old staffer in a new suit was writing.
fnix@awful.systems · 1 pts · 21d
Yeah, the party-line was far from realistic and reflected the West's own imperial hubris, but there's a spectrum there. When the fullscale invasion finally happened, the Jake Sullivans weren't going around for weeks about how Ukraine is doomed. And again, there was at least some room in the mainstream for eastern europeans or even just people who had traveled in Ukraine and understood the country & the people. In that regard Samo shares much more with the vatniks (sorry, the "realists") like John Mearsheimer and The Economist, who kept (and still keep) telling people Russia would win any day now.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 6 pts · 28d
That's a non-provably non-punchable face if I've ever seen one.
dgerard@awful.systems · 2 pts · 27d
lolol
Hypnosifl@awful.systems · 1 pts · 25d
The article at https://xenotransmissions.substack.com/p/evil-nerd-theory-part-iii-a-case mentions his neoreactionary history before Palladium:
The article also links to his More Right piece The Cult of Neoreaction which Nick Land discussed on his own blog, and there's another archive of his posts from a different date here and here is an announcement of a spin-off created by Samo and others called The Future Primaeval (that has various archives here but looking at an archived post list here from March 2015 to Jan 2017, looks like he didn't write any under his own name but that substack at the top of my comment says that one of the other people on the Palladium editorial board, Wolf Tivy, posted there a lot under pseudonyms Nyan Sandwich and Warg Franklin).
lurker@awful.systems · 12 pts · 29d
A double whammy: New York has become the first state to ban data centres and A Majority of Americans Now Support Seizing Wealth From AI Industry
lurker@awful.systems · 12 pts · 26d
Elongated Muskrat looses 1 trillion in under a month
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d
So this exists: https://readscottalexander.com/stats/links
So far these are probably the clearest non-leaked emails indication of what the good doctor actually believes.
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d
He cites Samo Burja and Nicholas Decker? And Cremieux is the twitter account he cites second most often, with Richard Hanania in 4th place?
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
Yeah, the foam-at-the-mouth racist college drop out with an imaginary phd in race science and at least one nazi alt that we know of is his overall top account to boost by some margin.
I don't think I've heard of Nicholas Decker.
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d
Decker is a GMU Econ PhD student getting distracted by Twitter and Aella. I don't think he has figured out that for a nerdy dude, "economist/quant" is a much better career path than "social media provocateur" (so delete X, get your PhD, sign on with a financial-services company, and frolic with sex workers on your own time).
Edit / he dropped out of his PhD program but wants to start a new one at Cambridge. I would not bet that he becomes Dr. Decker. He also has a date-me Google Doc.
nfultz@awful.systems · 10 pts · 27d
https://russwilcoxdata.substack.com/p/china-registered-the-humans-last
I never know how to parse mainstream reporting about China or Wilcox's writing in particular. Maybe this means they have a universal kill switch.
hmmm
OK back to be being terrified I guess.
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 12 pts · 27d
Are these agents in the room with us now?
How can all this possibly be enforceable.
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 26d
It's been a long time since I've seen basic questions about functionality answered by "something something blockchain" but that appears to be the answer here.
dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d
looks like a confluence of dumb shit that may or may not result in anything that means anything or does anything
there was a big blockchain push from 2019 on, basically in response to Facebook's Libra cryptocurrency plan. This directly brought us the e-CNY central bank digital currency. They tried to do this with a blockchain, but quickly realised you weren't going to scale a blockchain to fucking China. So far e-CNY is just another phone money like Alipay or Tenpay. I suppose it's a public good to have cash be under public control and not just private control, but it doesn't really have a compelling use case in its own right.
aio@awful.systems · 3 pts · 26d
article is llm-generated
scruiser@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d
Lesswrong has some funny objections to AI: 2040. They buy the overall premise, sure, but even that much still leaves lots of gaps in the "scenario". And they have even more galaxy brain takes... My favorite complaint: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pFzctpJBat95SrCyC/ai-2040-plan-a?commentId=54dZes9uNqDdbNGBu
tldr; AI: 2040 is leaving out all the other sci-fi singularity tech just around the corner like genetic augmentations and cybernetic brain implants!
Soyweiser@awful.systems · 8 pts · 29d
You laugh, but chatgpt has given me psyhic powers, and I can now tap into a whole new realm. There even was this smart psyhic agent called neurgalle or something who helped me with a skin condition.
scruiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 29d
Oh hey, a full top level post complaining AI-2027 wasn't sci-fi enough (they literally use the words "I don't think it is science-fictional enough")! https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Lc8v92pGPtjF3gsCv/some-quick-thoughts-on-ai-2027
aninjury2all@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d
When you definitely understand the anti-AI coalition you want to build
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 15 pts · 30d
Diversity and inclusion is suddenly great if it involves fascists doing entryism.
fullsquare@awful.systems · 10 pts · 30d
i thought that pause ai was just rationalist controlled opposition
samvines@awful.systems · 17 pts · 30d
Yeah exactly.
I want to pause ai because it's a hypercapitalist project designed to further deskill and commoditise the middle class which coincidentally destroys the environment.
They want to pause ai because they believe that spicy autocomplete is intelligent and will one day soon manifest as a giant angry vengeful snek.
We are not the same.
scruiser@awful.systems · 3 pts · 29d
The impression I've gotten it that it is relatively less toothless than some of the other rationalist spin-off movements aimed at preventing doom. And it is willing to deign to try to coalition build with normies that want to stop AI for normie reasons (except apparently they've made even that a bad thing, from the tweet it is willing to unapologetically coalition build with fascists!) But yes, it still has a lot of rationalist hangups and quirks getting in the way of actually acting effectively.
dgerard@awful.systems · 3 pts · 27d
Pause AI is exceedingly well funded by rich EAs and is fully EA in its internal chats. The Nazi Bar against AI.
dgerard@awful.systems · 10 pts · 27d
Balaji's free floating independent network state turns out to be subject to national laws of Malaysia https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3360679/malaysias-anwar-warns-any-israelis-johor-tech-commune-be-deported-immediately
istewart@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d
Lol, of course, it's hosted at the Chinese-financed disaster man-made island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_City,_Johor
I was just reading about this place the other day. Massive environmental damage in a sensitive area, dismal property sales that didn't come anywhere near meeting projections, and ultimately one of the major case studies in the de-leveraging of the Chinese real estate bubble. If the landlords there are palling up with our buddy Balaji, I sincerely doubt they're doing much better. Not really here for the official government antisemitism, but I also can't imagine that there's huge overlap between Israelis who want to get in tight with Balaji and the sorts of Israelis who are burning their IDF draft cards.
TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems · 9 pts · 25d
That feeling when you're an OpenAI exec and you realize the jig is up.
istewart@awful.systems · 17 pts · 25d
The strategy seems quite clear to me, and not blind at all: they want to hold a gun to the head of over-capitalized Americans like Mr. Ball and his enablers, and will be perfectly happy if that drives our tech industry into a financial escalation spiral that ultimately neuters it for years to come. He has the barest glimmerings of being aware of this, but frames it wrong because he can't let go of the sci-fi sentimentality that drives his whole industry.
The Chinese still have overwhelming clout in final electronics assembly, i.e. turning this shit into things people can actually use. Of course they are interested in maintaining that advantage. And if, in the medium term, they can nudge more financially desperate American politicians and executives towards loosening trade and investment restrictions, possibly even towards equity partnerships, so much the better. "Lack of compute for customer inference" is ultimately a red herring. If I'm a Chinese economic strategist, why would I not expect GPU tech to become commoditized over time, like every other aspect of advanced computing technology has? Perhaps even more rapidly, as the designs are inherently massively-parallel implementations of similar base execution blocks!
The rest of his "accelerationist"/"decelerationist" drivel concerns a silly spat that is mainly centered around and driven by Twitter. It is still difficult to overestimate just how brain-rotted Twitter has made these people.
e: case in point, he leads out with barely-veiled Covid lab-leak trutherism, surely just to rile up the hogs. What a loser hahahahahaha
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 15 pts · 25d
full AI communism
Listen I'm all for hating on the Chinese government, but it's more enjoyable to hate on them for real reasons rather than whatever this is.
Oh no the lesson he took away from his tweet is that he didn't use enough words.
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d
I also don't get it because they already hate pre-social-media institutions, so why are they still angry that American journalists were bad at transmitting public health science at the beginning of COVID? Even if you believe in a COVID lab leak, the United States broke the global public health response while countries in East Asia and the South Pacific showed what to do. There are lab-leakers who blame a partnership between traitorous American scientists and sinister Chinese labs to conduct research that was illegal in the USA.
Edit / this guy just comes out and uses COVID lab leak theories as an analogy for AI-box fantasies, but these people don't just cite it as a parallel, they are MAD about what they think happened and want you to be mad too.
lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 24d
LMFAOOOOOO
TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems · 9 pts · 24d
His non-apology apology:
Guys, he has a baby. Don't be too mean to him.
lurker@awful.systems · 10 pts · 24d
“please forgive me for spreading sinophobic propaganda for bailouts i have a baby :((“
istewart@awful.systems · 10 pts · 24d
That's OK, it will still mostly be confined to oversized Twitter posts, so most people will ignore it.
gerikson@awful.systems · 8 pts · 25d
even his AI-generated profile pic is punchable
scruiser@awful.systems · 7 pts · 25d
Even /r/singularity, which has a high percentage of boosters and often buys OpenAI/Anthropic talking points uncritically (or with only a few un-upvoted naysayers) eviscerated his comments as the shallow attempt to beg for regulations on China to protect OpenAI that they are. Also, China's consistent open sourcing and lower relative cost per performance (well insofar as you believe the benchmarks and such indicate performance) has the /r/singularity audience questioning the "China bad" narrative US media tries to sell.
nfultz@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
new polemics.md on luigi
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 15 pts · 27d
Attempting to credit Luigi's actions to AI millenarianism putting him in a weird headspace almost feels like stolen valor.
Still, if that's where his mental health defence is going to hinge on then I guess it's relevant.
That IQ works like mana points is both a widespread misconception and a red flag that you're far more ignorant than you let on.
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
“The robot god will be in the 99.9999999999999999999999999999th percentile for intelligence” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
dgerard@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d
i mean, he was a rationalist EA who tweeted pronatalism
i saw TPOTs on Twitter going "shit I know him"
Architeuthis@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d
If the argument is that too much rationaltruism fried his brain then fine I guess.
Otherwise I don't think United Healthcare doing AI assisted fraud falls into any rationalist framework of doom, and also those people are allergic to direct action.
Also the article is already setting the bar very high by using the Zizians, a sect that's almost completely predicated on semi-obsure rationalist lore, as their first point of reference for rationalism gone wild.
self@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
uggh, I dragged my feet too much on giving our instance more disk and the database fell over
it seems to have recovered alright, but please check if there's any weirdness or missing posts around the time when it went down
fullsquare@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d
there's been a wave of spam posts on writefreely couple of days back not sure if there's a relation
self@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d
uh oh, ours? that’s a different disk but it’s also a tiny disk
nfultz@awful.systems · 9 pts · 28d
https://www.reddit.com/r/murdle/comments/1ux0g4r/murdle_uses_ai/
OK I think we give GT Karber a pass on this one.
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d
Honestly If we want to use the hallucinatron the same way we use hallucinogens (minus the "transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm" part) I have no real problem with that. Scrambling and remixing the contents of the world in ways that might prompt actual minds to create new connections and interesting art seems to fit.
I don't think there's enough of a market for that to support scaling to any meaningful degree and so have less problems from an enabling/infrastructure perspective. I mean the chemical alternatives let you transcend reality and pierce the veil of the machine elf realm. AI can't do that.
TrashGoblin@awful.systems · 10 pts · 28d
In some ways, it's a lot like the cut-up technique used by the Dadaists and William S. Burroughs, though much less efficient. Maybe Markov chains are a happy medium. Going to run M-x dissociated-text on my ePub collection.
BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems · 8 pts · 28d
We had an IRC bot at the first software company I worked at that ingested conversation along with all the contents of some books from Project Gutenberg, all for the purposes of making the bot say silly things.
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 9 pts · 27d
I remember having a lot of fun with Roborosewater where they could generate something that matched the format of a Magic: the Gathering card perfectly and sometimes even something playable within the rules but it was always nonsensical in some ridiculous way. There's a couple streams from the LoadingReadyRun gang drafting a cube from the resulting chaos that are a hoot.
Ed: Here's a sampling in video form because I can't find a "best of" article and they get into the "analysis" a bit.
aio@awful.systems · 6 pts · 27d
dan olson jumpscare
TrashGoblin@awful.systems · 5 pts · 27d
Some years ago (2018-ish?) there was a fad on Fedi for making MYNAME_ebooks accounts that posted markov chain generated mashups of your previous posts.
nfultz@awful.systems · 8 pts · 26d
Hey, new ludicity post. wonder why he did a saturday post, he'll miss the HN monday cycle.
https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/ai-mania-is-eviscerating-global-decision-making/
Matches my experience consulting these last few years. I'm still waiting to hear about the one gig where AI doesn't eventually degenerate into a CYA circlejerk. Perhaps that is just the dominant eigenvector of the technical consulting process.
Been there too.
Also, apparently layoffs.fyi added an "attributed to AI" filter - https://layoffs.fyi/ai-layoffs/
o7___o7@awful.systems · 4 pts · 25d
Pairs nicely with the latest long-form Pivot!
dgerard@awful.systems · 3 pts · 24d
i need to ping ludicity for a pod
o7___o7@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d
self your masto feed has been magnificent and uplifting
self@awful.systems · 8 pts · 27d
thank you! I feel terrible I haven’t been posting as much here as life’s been finding a way to consistently disrupt my writing and admining time, but mastodon’s format is pretty good for turning disrupted, high-anxiety writing into threads
o7___o7@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d
The Linus news has been a real downer, but you've been a solid antidote!
dgerard@awful.systems · 7 pts · 27d
for those not following it's https://mas.to/@zzt/
CinnasVerses@awful.systems · 8 pts · 28d
Samo Burja ("How Roman Emperors Handled the Succession Problem"), SlateScott, and POTUS have all expressed interest in Herbert Hoover. Is this part of a broader online right thing in the USA?
gerikson@awful.systems · 13 pts · 28d
If you want to re-litigate the New Deal, rehabilitating Hoover is a good first step.
The American far-right has the New Deal as its foundational Dolchstosslegende.
macroplastic@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 27d
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Institution
corbin@awful.systems · 7 pts · 26d
Patreon CEO Jack Comte uploaded a visionary CEO talk about AI and artists and the future. I don't fully understand why they needed an interpretative dance section, or multiple people playing synthesizers, but I guess AI is good for artists, but also bad for artists, but also a big opportunity for artists, but also taking opportunities away from artists, but also? Also lots of bragging about how many millions of followers he has.
dgerard@awful.systems · 4 pts · 25d
Patreon essayed upon going slop, and the creators roundly rejected it
lurker@awful.systems · 7 pts · 30d
(ported over from previous thread)
So I managed to find some more of the AI 2027 author’s opinions on their predictions after a bit of poking around, I’ll let this snippet speak for itself
their full comments are here
lurker@awful.systems · 6 pts · 25d
Daniel Faggella has found the old SneerClub and here too
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 10 pts · 25d
Oh no every day sneerclub teaches me about a new guy.
So he's basically arguing that the Borg did nothing wrong (note: the Borg do not actually exist, note #2: the Borg are space fascists).
This isn't the first time I've seen this idea in rationalist circles: that is bad / wrong / irrational to be biased in favor of humans and or humans to succeed in particular. Often the idea is taken as obviously true, but I cannot understand it at all.
Like I don't care if you can make a computer "better" than me or less sad than me or less likely to eat an innocent shrimp than me. I am not that computer-- if it's a choice between me and them I'm fighting on team me. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make one's space in the universe or to "selfishly" want self-actualization or to want humans to thrive.
lurker@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d
I’ve been aware of Faggella for a while (entirely against my will) he’s got an interview with Yud on his podcast which contains this all-timer quote:
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 7 pts · 24d
I think this particular pattern is another consequence of long-termism in the water supply. It's easy to disconnect yourself from humanity as a concept when you're in a space that often assumes that you and everyone you could ever have a personal relationship with are already long dead. The fact that this makes it easy to ignore the problems that people today are having in front of your face is purely coincidental.
corbin@awful.systems · 8 pts · 24d
These doofuses never actually think through their thought experiments. Quoting from a dead thread half a year ago, where he was downvoted but not yet identified:
Okay, but first surely he can recognize that humanity is already multicultural and multispecies? Like, in a non-specious sense, we've incorporated many mammals, birds, plants, fungi, etc. into our daily lives and can't really separate them out at this point. Sure, there's some ineffable and beautiful relationship between humans in general which we want to preserve, but before worrying about whether robots should join in, we should first notice that there's already an expansion of that relationship to include e.g. face mites, and there's no sense in which face mites are a Worthy Successor to whom we should cede all managerial decisions. (I was gonna say "cats", but I know plenty of y'all would rather have a cat in charge than a human, and you're not wrong.)
istewart@awful.systems · 5 pts · 25d
daniel self-flagella, more like
lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 25d
for frame of reference, this is the kind of stuff he tweets
dgerard@awful.systems · 5 pts · 26d
Olivia Squizzle: Becoming a certified hater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOQcpF9h9Z0
a heartwarming start to your day
lurker@awful.systems · 4 pts · 28d
Was unsure if I was gonna post this but might as well. A letter about AI job losses has dropped its very short but has 200 signatures already (most of which are familiar names around here like Jack Clark) this article goes over it
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 11 pts · 28d
So it's a pointless attempt to send up a "take me seriously" flare?
Also I think this discourse as always misses the distinction between economic displacement caused by AI and economic displacement justified by AI. Hiring managers seem to be anticipating AI capabilities that do not exist yet, and the disruption to labor is well beyond what the current AI systems are actually able to replace. I think instead we're seeing a combination of business rubes buying the hype and the consequences of bad incentives that make headcount reduction look really good on quarterly financials while in a lot of areas not having an immediate negative impact on capabilities or production. Especially when it comes to IT infrastructure, for example, the fact that you're not paying someone goes immediately on the financial statements, but the fact that your infrastructure is less reliable and crashes more often has a huge experiential impact on your customers and employees but it takes time for that to cash out into something that impacts the numbers.
BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems · 7 pts · 28d
Oh, it's the usual suspects. For fucks sake.
lurker@awful.systems · 5 pts · 28d
Always has been