What am I missing about the comments here? It's a satirical cartoon, so it's not meant to be taken as these labels are what the author would apply to each group.
I read it as highlighting the hypocrisy of how Ukraine fighting Russia is self defence but Palestine fighting Israel is seen as terrorism.
History is full of groups that were called terrorists before they were called governments. Whoever decides what is an act of war and what is an act of terrorism decides the rules of the game
Nelson Mandela was deemed a terrorist and British intelligence provided information to the apartheid regime to murder ANC activists in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s.
the illustration is a bit of an oversimplification, but I think a redeemable takeaway is that the rhetoric changes depending on which side (western) capital is supporting.
When someone uses a rifle to kill people who were on their way to the voting booth for independence and reattachment and in retaliation you bring in a tank, you're doing self-defense.
When someone throws a rock at you because they're being oppressed by you as you're occupying their land and you bring in a tank, you're doing terrorism.
Nothing wrong with this picture.
Other than the other side needs text also.
I mean, the funny thing is that the UON-B (The Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists – Bandera faction) has unequivocally been operating as a stateless paramilitary seeking political reform through violence. Not unlike the Houthi Rebel movement or Hamas, after the IDF killed all their civilian bureaucrats and political functionaries.
But because the term carries "brown person acting badly" connotation, people reflectively reject the idea that a white person can earn the title.
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 45d
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 36 pts · 45d
What am I missing about the comments here? It's a satirical cartoon, so it's not meant to be taken as these labels are what the author would apply to each group.
I read it as highlighting the hypocrisy of how Ukraine fighting Russia is self defence but Palestine fighting Israel is seen as terrorism.
Is this a controversial take?
hamid@crazypeople.online · 10 pts · 45d
They didn't see the "TV" in the pic lol
NewDark@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 45d
You've got it. Ukraine is a little less black and white than Israel Palestine, so you'll see some comments that are anti Ukraine.
daggermoon@piefed.world · 36 pts · 45d
They're both self-defense
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 44d
That's kinda the joke.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 45d
History is full of groups that were called terrorists before they were called governments. Whoever decides what is an act of war and what is an act of terrorism decides the rules of the game
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 44d
Nelson Mandela was deemed a terrorist and British intelligence provided information to the apartheid regime to murder ANC activists in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s.
TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 45d
Funny that someone felt the need to put flags on this
Objection@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 45d
yuki_gassen@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 45d
the illustration is a bit of an oversimplification, but I think a redeemable takeaway is that the rhetoric changes depending on which side (western) capital is supporting.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
Ukraine would be a drone
Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 38d
Yet the reverse is somehow not double standards, simply because the Russian state has a historical connection to socialism.
hamid@crazypeople.online · 1 pts · 38d
Well, unlike Palestine, Ukraine is filled with Nazis and is drawing all its war time funding from other fascist white countries.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 45d
That's only the most superficial level everyone should agree with on principle if they have eyes and ears.
Now let's see who/what is backing these groups, lol.
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org · -4 pts · 45d
How does this bullshit have upvotes?
foxfell@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 45d
Oh you don't agree? Tell us more!
deft@lemmy.wtf · -6 pts · 45d
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 45d
Historic abuse is when a country that lost many millions people to the nazis...doesn't tolerate ethnic cleansing by nazis?
I think the historic abuse here is your abuse of the word historic
deft@lemmy.wtf · -6 pts · 45d
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 45d
How come it takes so little prompting for you guys to turn into weird fascist freaks with zero history knowledge and a hardon for dead Russian people?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 45d
????
folaht@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 44d
What double standards?
When someone uses a rifle to kill people who were on their way to the voting booth for independence and reattachment and in retaliation you bring in a tank, you're doing self-defense.
When someone throws a rock at you because they're being oppressed by you as you're occupying their land and you bring in a tank, you're doing terrorism.
Nothing wrong with this picture.
Other than the other side needs text also.
Goaded (by the US) ↔ Self-defense
Resistance (against oppression) ↔ (State) Terrorism
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml · -22 pts · 45d
the opposite is pretty much true
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 45d
What
hobata@lemmy.ml · -32 pts · 45d
Can't disagree on that, that Ukrops are terrorist.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 45d
I mean, the funny thing is that the UON-B (The Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists – Bandera faction) has unequivocally been operating as a stateless paramilitary seeking political reform through violence. Not unlike the Houthi Rebel movement or Hamas, after the IDF killed all their civilian bureaucrats and political functionaries.
But because the term carries "brown person acting badly" connotation, people reflectively reject the idea that a white person can earn the title.
PetteriPano@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 45d
People do seem to get upset when you remind them about all the Christian terrorists that set fire (or similar) to abortion clinics.