I bought an old HP chromebook cheap on ebay that came with Zorin OS installed. It isn't much, but just about manages to do what I need. The trouble is, Zorin seems kind of bloated and the Chromebook hasn't got much memory. I don't even have enough space to install updates.
I'm comfortable with running a pared-down OS that might be a better fit for a tired old Chromebook. What might work better than Zorin?
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farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 16d
puppy linux
dadarobot@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 16d
LOAF: linux on a floppy
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 16d
Well, hell - no DSL (Damn Small Linux)?
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 3 pts · 15d
DSL is dead. Long live TinyCore.
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 15d
When was the last time you checked on DSL?
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 2 pts · 15d
2024, when it was briefly reborn and then re-forgotten.
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 15d
K. Just making sure you knew of the newer one, since others I've talked to on occasion didn't.
I'd forgotten about TinyCore. Looks like it might be more useable than when I last looked at it many, many moons ago, so I'll have to put it on my rainy day play around list.
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 1 pts · 15d
Yeah it looks to me like TinyCore is either made by the same guy as DSL, or uses a substantial number of components from DSL. Either way, it feels very familiar to anyone who's used DSL in the past, so I consider it a spiritual successor.
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 16d
When you say memory, do you mean RAM or do you mean disk space?
zlatko@programming.dev · 4 pts · 16d
Could be both, but that's a good question. They say memory but mention the space for updates.
Demonmariner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
Primarily disk space.
eugenia@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 16d
For 16 GB SSD with 4 GBs of RAM (which is what most Chromebooks used to be), you will need Debian with XFce, with 2 GB of swap partition. Nothing else will either fit, or work properly. I have given away 3 such laptops to friends with that setup (Arch might fit ok too, but because I was giving it to friends, Debian was easier to work with). After installing the v12 Bookworm Debian OS, with libreoffice, a couple of simple games (e.g. solitaire), Gimp, and that 2 gb swap partition, I was left with 5 GB free space. I had to occasionally do
sudo apt autoremoveto make sure the space wasn't eaten away, but overall, it stayed steady (dh -hwill give you that info). With Trixie, you might end up with 4 GBs of free space, as it's bigger. Bookworm has updates until 2029.Demonmariner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
This sounds like the way to go. What would be the least painful process for going from zorin to debian?
eugenia@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 14d
You will have to reinstall the OS, and redo the partition table (256 MB boot partition (that's enough for a single OS), 2 GB swap, and the rest / root partition). Then install Debian with XFce on the / partition. You use it normally as with any other Debian-based OS, that Zorin is also one of them, but you use the terminal to update the system. It's very usable.
kables_fed_dit@feddit.org · 7 pts · 16d
Maybe you can have a look at PostmarketOS, depending on the specific model your Chromebook is. They support some Chromebooks.
dfgxx@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 16d
If it can run on old phones, it can run even better on Chromebooks I think, yes it is very lightweight but because musl app compatibility is bit more limited than glibc
throwaway403@programming.dev · 5 pts · 16d
OP, got some specs? It will make it easier for us to give good suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Demonmariner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
Celeron processor 16/4 gb ram.
HackyMrHippie@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 16d
I have 3 old Chromebooks (2gb/4gb ram and 16gb/32gb storage) and I run MX with XFCE which runs like a dream. Previously I used Arch with KDE which also ran smoothly enough which surprised me. One thing worth doing with whichever distro/DE you choose, remove all the software you won't use and it makes a huge difference!
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 16d
Fedora + sway worked well on my C730 with4gb ram 15gb disk.
coolmojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
GalliumOS is a Linux distro made especially for Chromebooks.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 14d
Gallium has not been active in 5 years though.
coolmojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
I should have checked. That was the last time I had a Chromebook.
dfgxx@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 16d
Try chimera Linux, it is very lightweight (but also depends on the desktop environment)
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 14d
I've also had a chromebook with only 30 GB of slow eMMC once. Adjusting I/O caching helped noticeably:
And you might also want to set mount options in /etc/fstab to
noatimeorrelatimeand addcommit=60or so (default is 6).To note that
dirty_expire_centisecsandcommittrade speed for data safety. But a laptop has a battery anyway.About lack of space:
keep the system on the eMMC and mount a thumbdrive as /home? (in /etc/fstab)
Just don't do much compiling on it (or move the compiling path to RAM); i've broke a SDcard-as-home with compiling Firefox on the Chromebook.
Edit: ZorinOS is immutable, relying on flatpaks (high I/O and btrfs deduplication), no? Kinda the worst choice for such a device.Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 14d
I've not seen anything about ZorinOS being immutable, it's basically just Ubuntu with some stuff on top. By default it uses ext4 and the software store has access to flatpaks, but also snaps and typical native linux software.
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
I would say try puppy Linux or a openbox based distro. My go to is MABOX Linux. Lightweight and VERY customizable.
moonpiedumplings@programming.dev · 2 pts · 16d
I used to use Arch + KDE on a device with only 32 gb of storage space. I used BTRFS and transparent compression, and I got the actual Arch Linux install compressed down into 6 gb (where it would have been 10 gb uncompressed).
inanimate_carbon_rod@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 16d
I've been distro-hopping on a 2018 cheapo Chromebook for about a year. So far, I've tried Debian (Bookworm) with XFCE, AntiX, PeppermintOS, and now ARCH with Sway. None of the first three were particularly snappy, but they were all running full desktop environments. With Arch/Sway, I'm running about as light as I can get: no login manager, only 441 packages installed. Web browser is Helium. It's early yet, but I think it does feel a little faster--most of the time. Helium still takes a few seconds to load, for example.
Running bare Arch is a bit extreme, but I think the real difference probably comes down to using a WM instead of a full DE. Sway is pretty light, and from what I could find, Wayland is supposed to be a little lighter/quicker than X11, but if toy want to go that way, you could use i3. Configuration from scratch can be a bit intimidating, but I looked online for shared dotfiles I liked and customized from there.
Good luck! Hope it goes all and is a fun experiment!
My specs: Astronaut (rev 3) Chromebook. Intel Celeron N3350 dual core @ 2.4 GHz with Intel HD Graphics 500 integrated graphics, 4 GB RAM, 32 GB eMMC storage.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 14d
I am going to try something else completely. I dont know if it will work.
The Plan: A thin client that connects to an always on RDP session either on a real computer or my servers virtual one.
Alpine Linux in Diskless mode, Xorg, Freedrp
No desktop environment, no window manager. Everything loads into ram.
A project for the weekend, curious how it will go.
Issues that need to be addressed:
suspend when lid closed will have to be added manually. RDP probably should drop or ask for a password at each wake up if the laptop leaves the house. When remote I guess tailscale or similar will have to be implemented.
aim_at_me@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 15d
Something like bunsen?
Moodel@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 14d
Have you tried cleaning up the cache?
'sudo apt autoclean' will remove outdated cache files.
'sudo apt clean' will remove all cache files.
Demonmariner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13d
Good point, I'll try that. I'm still not a big zorin fan though.
ISolox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16d
I would go with debian with a light weight desktop. If you have issues after that maybe puppy Linux?
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 16d
i'd just use debian with something like wmaker/icewm/jwm/lxde
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 15d
Mine is painful for storage. The eMMC is the most painful part. I can deal with low memory, I can deal with the cpu, but read and writes are painfully slow.
I am using fedora cosmic atomic and it works better than most.
Look up how to tweak reads and writes for eMMC if you have it, you can help speed it up.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 14d
I wonder if reading from the ports is any faster?
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 14d
Yes. A lot. Using the usb C port all operations are about 4 to 8 times faster per Kdiskmark.
Unfortunately, carrying around the os attached to the usb is kind of a pain.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 14d
iusemybrain@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 13d
if your trying to find an OS that is low on resources, there's only one option: alpine linux. Yes it starts out as a TTY (no graphical environment) but they do have scripts to install the OS and a graphics environment of your choice.
the one concern is driver support, generally (unless using a popular distro such as zorin OS) driver support for Chromebooks are limited. I've tried getting alpine Linux on my Chromebook and can't because the wifi card would not work for it.
that said, if you're ready to manually configure driver support for it (which most likely will happen) the artix OS uses about 128 MB of memory. That said, if you have more, Linux will dynamically allocate more for core OS functionality