Immigration and Customs Enforcement has made yet another arrest at a New York City immigration court, despite a May ruling from a federal judge that broadly blocked such detentions.
U.S. District Judge Kevin Castel, a George W. Bush appointee, ruled May 18 that ICE never had the legal justification to make these arrests. His order, which applied to immigration courts in Manhattan, kneecapped the agency’s controversial strategy of detaining people as they arrived for mandatory immigration hearings.
Despite that, ICE has made at least six arrests in Manhattan immigration courts since Castel issued his order. The latest arrest came on Thursday, when agents detained Bronx resident Matar Ndiaye while he was “dutifully attending an immigration court hearing for his asylum claim,” according to court filings.
Contempt charges?
41 Comments
snooggums@piefed.world · 109 pts · 41d
Police providing security at the courts should be arresting those ice agents for kidnapping since they don't have jurisdiction, but we all know why they don't.
sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 41d
It's not called a police state for nothing.
cooltrainer_frank@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 41d
Some of those that work forces
artyom@piefed.social · 15 pts · 41d
Try telling the gestapo that they don't have authority.
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 41d
I wonder what it feels to work so hard thru the police academy and under so much accountability, but then become subservient to a bunch of ex-bounty hunters with 2 weeks training and no accountability.
I'd be pissed off if I was a policeman.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 39d
It feels good when what you want as a police man is stifled by "accountability", but you get to see the ice agents doing it with impunity. They're not pissed, they talk about how awesome it is in the locker room.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 40d
I'm not holding my breath for the ethics of the NYPD
CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 36d
You'll have to wait for one of the nypd to get grabbed before they will do anything.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 0 pts · 41d
If they did that, they'd be charged with terrorism or something and get 100 years in the slammer.
VeryVito@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 41d
We need to stop making up “if they did” scenarios and just do it. Appeasement has never made anything better against fascists.
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 4 pts · 41d
I was just describing why the fuzz don't touch ICE officers. I wasn't advocating anything.
Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 41d
I am, arm yourselves and trim those fuses shorter.
artyom@piefed.social · -4 pts · 41d
You first
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 68 pts · 41d
Hmm, an unaccountable paramilitary force that flouts the law without consequences? It's getting really really fascist in this motherfucker.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 41d
And people are still doing nothing about it, and no, protests are not doing something about it
ExtremeDullard@piefed.social · 8 pts · 41d
Just like in Germany in the 30s.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
What do you want to be done? The smart but feels bad move is to keep taking notes and keep taking names. The regime won't last forever and a blue wave is already coming.
For now, the thing being done will be more court fights between state and federal (aka notekeeping).
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 41d
Why call them arrests? These are kidnappings.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 41d
Because they're legally officers performing arrests in the fascist USA.
For the newspapers of the USA to call them kidnappings would be libel.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 41d
The first couple of paragraphs of the article explain why these are not legal arrests. ICE are legally forbidden from doing this, so their actions should legally be treated the same as if anyone else just grabbed people and imprisoned them.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
The media is not on our side. They can't even put "illegal" in the title; they just soften it with "despite court orders..."
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d
Yes, and yet here are commenters whining that the media should step up and solve their fascism problem with accurate reporting.
The media won't solve it, the courts won't solve it, voting won't solve it, "someone else" won't solve it.
The US citizens acting in coordinated industrial strikes is all that will solve it currently, yet they don't. Another year or so and even that won't solve it.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
Well, there are quite a few high profile strikes. The big issues are
It'll be a few years for sure. But I can definitely see some people fighting. Even if it's not enough.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 40d
It's decidedly not legal, that's the point, they are breaking the law
SarcasticMan@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 41d
This is all theater. The courts will hem and haw about rights and rule of law but ultimately wont do jack shit all to cement the SS...sorry ICEs position above the law and ability to take who ever when ever they want from where ever.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 10 pts · 41d
You're not wrong. The court was complicit as they can declare the "arrests" illegal.
Minor correction, these aren't the SS they are the SA. This is why we need to fight now, they're not yet organized enough to be the SS, they're still forming. We still have a chance to create enough political pressure to disband them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
SarcasticMan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
I tend to use the SS stamp because most people I talk to about this stare at you blankly when you say SA. Everyone knows who the SS were. You are right though here on Lemmy I should have made the distinction. Or you could also say potato potato lol
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 2 pts · 38d
Tomato tomahtoe. Keep up the good fight
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 41d
2 years down the line and they'll issue the third final warning to stop doing illegal things, which the appeals court will immediately stay because a few months without optimal inductions into the concentration camps is considered an irreversible harm.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 41d
All the ice agents look like they have pink eye.
SoloCritical@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 41d
Wonder what Mamdani has to say about this? Or if he can/will do anything about it?
Abyssian@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 41d
He's brown, so if he makes too much of a stink NYPD will fire several warning shots into his back while he's "aggressively" tying a shoe.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io · 4 pts · 41d
Honestly, given how he capitulated to the NYPD, I’d imagine he can’t do much. I somehow doubt he would be allowed.
ViceroTempus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 41d
Most people have no choice but to capitulate to an organized and armed force, regardless of station in life.
It's an important lesson. One the working class should take to heart.
SoloCritical@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
What do you mean by this? First I’m hearing of it
SuiXi3D@fedia.io · 5 pts · 40d
He'd campaigned on reining in the NYPD, but as soon as he was elected he specifically started praising them and hasn't done anything to curb some of the... well, more problematic elements. It is assumed that they threatened him or something, because him doing nothing about them goes against his supposed worldview and what he campaigned on. It's very well possible that the realities of being in office or just that his ability to affect things as Mayor isn't as powerful or robust as he'd thought. In any case, it's one of the few elements of his campaign he's gone back on.
raze2012@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 40d
Hard to say. Mamdami has a lot of work to do and reforming the NYPD during these times is one of the larger tasks. That might be more for something during his 2nd term if he gets that far.
But I wouldn't be surprised if he got a lot of flak internally over these issues once he got in.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io · 6 pts · 40d
Oh yeah, I agree. I think it’s dumb to expect everything to get better overnight. The fact that he’s done as much as he has is amazing.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 40d
And what's going to be done about it?
MrRandom@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 40d
wasn't the police supposed to arrest those ICE agents? but can they arrest themselves?
nullspace@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 40d
Maybe someone will set another building on fire.