‘Everyone's afraid to die’: Struggle to recruit soldiers in Ukraine turns violent

What in the world.

I don't think anyone really does. If they did, proper war journalists wouldn't exist. No sane person would stick their necks out like that if they understood the gory details.

As to the "curtain of media propaganda", we're all suffocating in it. That's part of what has dragged the conflict out for as long as it has. Everyone's fed this false narrative that the other side is on the brink of internal collapse. Russians get deluged with media about their glorious impeding victories, with every European economic hiccup or American military stumble presented as a final desperate gasp. Westerners are inundated with "Putin on death's door! Russians out of toiletpaper, insurgency imminent! Ukraine scores critical war-defining victory with latest long-range strike!" news updates, suggesting just one more big push will crack the entire Russian socio-economic system like an egg.

This, combined with any hint of diplomatic resolution squashed under a wave of "You can't trust their government! Only total victory will assure your safety!"

And so we've got this systematic terror bombing all the way from the Polish border to the Serbian wilderness, with people convinced the end of the war is just around the corner for year after year after year.

Iran's conflict with the US is shaping up the same way. We scream bloody murder while we're firing off another volley of cruise missiles, then publicly announce "Peace negotiations imminent" while our batteries reload.

This story is about Ukrainian soldiers though.

Finally something working-class Russian and Ukrainian soldiers can agree on

Here's what you propose to a rapist while they're raping: stop or die

So they're just supposed to give up Crimea and there are no security guarantees from Russia at all, a country and government famous for breaking agreements when it suits them. Allows Russia to rebuild its military and attack again. From Crimea even.

You have pasted that comment into eleven different discussions.

NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance.

The US is never going to allow that to happen.

Yall are so fucked in the head giving anything to Russia.

What's it like waking up every morning with the most dog-shit takes imaginable?

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Yea seems about right

Get out of here with that Russian propaganda.

This is just the same thing that happens with every country that has conscripted military service during a war. Even a war where you’re defending your own home.

Some people will drag their feet. Some people are staunch pacifists, some people are afraid, etc.

the us installed proxy war where dickfingers told Zelenski he doesn’t have the cards, humiliated him and has tried at every opportunity to get out of, to the point where the us gov does practically nothing these days except sell patriots? something europe is desperate to replace?

that us proxy war? the one they want nothing to do with?

More likely, it's the same self-preservation instinct their Russian peers are experiencing when recruiters come calling on the east side of the front line.

Ukrainians and Russians had far more in common than in opposition. It took decades of depravation and tens of thousands of hours of warmongering propaganda to splinter them apart. Now they're being feasted on by the oligarchs and their war machines as the territory is depopulated for the next generation of settler colonialists.

I love when the dipshits out themselves like this