Microsoft is using TPM chips to crack down on pirated Windows activations

https://www.techspot.com/news/113232-microsoft-using-tpm-chips-crack-down-pirated-windows.html

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dabu@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 25d (6 replies)

So that's way they needed TPM as a requirement...

FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 25d (4 replies)

Always was.

People just kept parroting the bullshit "it's not DRM, bro. You'll need for things like to use banking websites" propaganda so much, that it got drowned out. Cheers to microslop's astroturfibg efforts for that.

Dragomus@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 25d (2 replies)

I remember the banking excuse ... and now that I think about it I don't know of any financial or public-government sites that used/demanded the TPM chip for windows.

unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 16 pts · 25d

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for mobile. I mean no, there's no TPM chip, but there's stuff like Play Integrity which is required and even worse.

SteveTech@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 25d

There's a few websites now that support WebAuthn which Windows Hello (requiring a TPM) should support.

For example, the Australian passports.gov.au defaults to "passkeys" and makes it clear they're "recommend", my.gov.au also supports passkeys but prefers their mobile app. I just use a Yubikey (+ Linux) though, and it's always optional anyway. Though I also don't know of any banks using WebAuthn.

cadekat@pawb.social · 8 pts · 25d

The TPM is legitimately useful outside of DRM, but it's absolutely mostly for DRM.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 25d

We always knew this was their game.

mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 25d (1 reply)

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muhyb@programming.dev · 3 pts · 24d

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unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth · 21 pts · 25d (1 reply)

Massgrave recently introduced the new TSforge Activation method, which can allegedly bypass Microsoft's entire DRM architecture for software product activation.

So it seems like it won't be stopping much, at least for now.

Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 25d

Hahaha, massgrave... Cracks me up they've already addressed it.

0ndead@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 25d (2 replies)

You know, you can just turn off the TPM chip in bios

Ok, I got around to reading the article. KMS activation now checks the TPM of the KVM server to make sure it’s verified. KMS emulation has always been janky af imo.

TLDR; Use Massgrave’s TSForge

QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 25d (1 reply)

I'm assuming Windows would check for that.

0ndead@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 25d

Even if they did, the massgrave activations can’t be revoked afaik

Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 8 pts · 25d

Who cares, just use older "stable" versions that can still be activated and consider moving to Linux.

HumbleBragger@piefed.social · 6 pts · 24d

I'm not a windows user but for what I read this seems to focus on enterprise users. Microsoft could end illegal copies of their OS for every user if they wanted but they need everyone using windows so its the only thing people know in order to make corporations pay for the license and get their employees to work with something they already know.

Psythik@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 24d

I'm guessing this doesn't affect the loophole where you can just change your activation servers to something non-Microsoft, then activate Windows from there? As far as I know, this is still a valid method to get a 100% legit copy without paying a single penny. You don't need to do any KMS fuckery at all via this method. As far as Microsoft is concerned, you paid up.