Colin Gray also admitted he was aware that his son had been physically violent, had a photo of a school shooter on his bedroom wall and had texted a few weeks before the attack, “Whenever something happens, just know the blood is on your hands.”
Honestly it would make more sense for the son to get 15 years and the dad to get life...
If the dad ignored all those red flags and bought his 14 year old an AR then he was fucking up almost every other aspect of parenting as well.
The son has at least a chance of reform due to age alone, the father is a complete lost cause and will act the same and likely worse when released. For all intents and purposes putting the gun in that kids hands is more liable than a clearly fucked up kid pulling the trigger.
Honestly a 14/15 yo is still a child. Their brain is flooded with hormones. Even well-adjusted kids are just freaking monsters at that age with limited reasoning and limited future vision.
I agree that the adult is way more liable for this avoidable tragedy.
Not sure what the goal is here. The dad had no intent to kill, so it literally can't be murder. The disincentive aspect is irrelevant because deterrence only works against planned crimes.
This looks like the usual "we had to do something". Nothing changes.
If you accidentally run someone over in a car being negligent, you get charged with manslaughter. If you're a getaway driver in a crime where someone dies, you're charged with murder.
This is no different. He was a key part of a scheme to kill children, whether it was intentional or because of negligence.
The kid had an unhealthy interest in school shooters, including having a photo of one on his wall. The police spoke with the father about concerning statements from the kid. And yet the father still bought the kid a semi-automatic weapon. It's a short, straight line of responsibility here.
I suspect the father had his own unhealthy interest in weapons, considering he named his own kid Colt. You can understand how a guy who worships guns is likely to dismiss anything that means he's going to have to dial it back. He loved guns more than he loved safeguarding his sons literal future.
The deterrence is (obviously, I thought) further upstream. Parents should not treat firearms as toys to give their children. Hopefully the risk of spending years in prison will make the next parent who is considering buying their kid a gun also consider how they'll keep control of it and ensure safe, responsible use. (As opposed to this guy, who just left it unsecured in his kid's closet)
If you haven't read the details of this case, I encourage you to do so. This isn't a "it could happen to anyone" situation we're talking about here.
18 Comments
0ndead@infosec.pub · 49 pts · 51d
Now do Kyle Rittenhouse’s parents
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 51d
Honestly it would make more sense for the son to get 15 years and the dad to get life...
If the dad ignored all those red flags and bought his 14 year old an AR then he was fucking up almost every other aspect of parenting as well.
The son has at least a chance of reform due to age alone, the father is a complete lost cause and will act the same and likely worse when released. For all intents and purposes putting the gun in that kids hands is more liable than a clearly fucked up kid pulling the trigger.
Melobol@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 51d
Honestly a 14/15 yo is still a child. Their brain is flooded with hormones. Even well-adjusted kids are just freaking monsters at that age with limited reasoning and limited future vision.
I agree that the adult is way more liable for this avoidable tragedy.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
That guy is 100% gonna get his
assbucket kicked in the clink. He begs for itNot an endorsement simply a prediction
Sidenote: how long until that kind of thing becomes common predictions market fare?
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 51d
He's practically a child killer.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
He is, no gun, no massacre. Simple as that
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 51d
They should’ve been doing this going back to the Columbine shootings.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 51d
Reading through the AP's article in this, it used the word "handful" of people/parents that have been charged like this. So not many.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 18 pts · 51d
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
Deserved, shame it isn't a longer sentence
frongt@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 51d
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · -29 pts · 51d
Not sure what the goal is here. The dad had no intent to kill, so it literally can't be murder. The disincentive aspect is irrelevant because deterrence only works against planned crimes.
This looks like the usual "we had to do something". Nothing changes.
breezeblock@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 51d
Criminal negligence
TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 51d
If you accidentally run someone over in a car being negligent, you get charged with manslaughter. If you're a getaway driver in a crime where someone dies, you're charged with murder.
This is no different. He was a key part of a scheme to kill children, whether it was intentional or because of negligence.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 50d
The kid had an unhealthy interest in school shooters, including having a photo of one on his wall. The police spoke with the father about concerning statements from the kid. And yet the father still bought the kid a semi-automatic weapon. It's a short, straight line of responsibility here.
I suspect the father had his own unhealthy interest in weapons, considering he named his own kid Colt. You can understand how a guy who worships guns is likely to dismiss anything that means he's going to have to dial it back. He loved guns more than he loved safeguarding his sons literal future.
Rusticus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 51d
Come on man when are we going to hold people accountable for abusing 2A rights. Tens of thousands of people die every year and they don’t have to.
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 50d
Aiding and abetting. Been a good long time since I done me any abetting. That's a crime.
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Stfu Manson. You had your turn.
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
It gets rid of dead beat irresponsible dads
joe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
The deterrence is (obviously, I thought) further upstream. Parents should not treat firearms as toys to give their children. Hopefully the risk of spending years in prison will make the next parent who is considering buying their kid a gun also consider how they'll keep control of it and ensure safe, responsible use. (As opposed to this guy, who just left it unsecured in his kid's closet)
If you haven't read the details of this case, I encourage you to do so. This isn't a "it could happen to anyone" situation we're talking about here.