Am I stupid or is there some reason you can’t make the coffee 6x stronger than normal without boiling it down? Is it just a practicality thing because it’s easier to make 6 cups and then boil it than it is to make 1 concentrated cup without boiling it down?
Going by the style of recipe, the name at the end, and the font, this looks like it's from an older community cookbook. Which were popular from the 1910s to early 60s. Making 6 cups of coffee and reducing it may have been the easiest way to do this at the time it was written.
Technically the reason why espresso is weaker is the fact that the traditional espresso roast is quite dark, and the darker the roast, the less caffeine.
So start with espresso and reduce it by half if you have an espresso machine. I have a simple on/off drip pot, and if I forget to drink my third mug or turn off the machine, I come back to find it has that condensed coffee flavor that's almost caramelized. People supposedly hate it, but I love it as long as it's not burned.
I haven't tried this but I have misgivings, because generally boiling coffee, or extended heating has a tendency to make it taste like old truck tires.
Like a pot of drip just sitting on one of those burners to keep it warm starts tasting worse after about an hour. Can one reduce it quickly enough that this doesn't happen? Or once condensed is it just a different beast?
Yeah, the vanilla ice cream would probably negate the horrible bitterness of coffee that's been simmered that long, but this still sounds very bad. Maybe you could use cold brew concentrate instead?
Yeah, I'd use freeze-dried coffee for this instead of trying to cook down a pot of coffee. Optionally mixed into a cup of fresh coffee instead of hot water.
you will get a stronger end result by reduction unless you're using a $500 coffee setup. most people only have dripers, so just by adding more grounds won't make the coffee as strong as it should be.
The first part reminds me of the bottled espresso concentrate I just found in a supermarket. So far, I used it for spicing up frothed milk for our cappucino and mixed some into the caramel custard which is currently cooling down for this evenings' dessert.
I bet someone in this thread talking about cocktails will accidentally say Moscow Mule when they mean to say White Russian, but probably only once. More than once would be ridiculous.
It'd be ridiculous because there isn't really any chance someone makes that mistake, and a whole other separate person doesn't see it and then makes the same error
I've accidentally made Moscow mules using gin instead of vodka. It's weird but not awful. That's nearly what this recipe is. Just use espresso or espresso liqueur instead of doing all that coffee boiling.
Edit: I said Moscow Mule when I meant White Russian like 3 times in this thread. In my defense, I'm somewhat new to drinking.
No bro this is nothing like a Moscow mule. Those are fine with gin.
There is no ice cream or coffee in a Moscow mule, they have like ginger ale and lime?? Just because it also comes in a cup does not make it a similar drink.
Yeah, I said Mule when I meant White Russian (with ice cream instead of cream). And they are weird but kind of OK with gin. Not normal by any means, but not (to me) horrible. But my taste buds are old and I've had COVID 3 times so YMMV.
Wow, 4 servings in a bottle of vodka is insane. I would do this but absolutely with whiskey or rum or even an añejo tequila not vodka or gin. And half as much of it. And then call it 8 servings!
4 servings? No. But it will definitely serve (and then borderline over serve) 4 people no problem! That's, what, like 4 or 5 shots each or something depending on your pours?
The nice thing about it is it's sort of self limiting: it takes a long time to reduce a pot of coffee, so probably nobody is getting their stomach pumped 😬.
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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 11d
Am I stupid or is there some reason you can’t make the coffee 6x stronger than normal without boiling it down? Is it just a practicality thing because it’s easier to make 6 cups and then boil it than it is to make 1 concentrated cup without boiling it down?
Afelia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 33 pts · 11d
Going by the style of recipe, the name at the end, and the font, this looks like it's from an older community cookbook. Which were popular from the 1910s to early 60s. Making 6 cups of coffee and reducing it may have been the easiest way to do this at the time it was written.
CyanideShotInjection@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 11d
Or the easiest way to convey the expected result for most people.
lauha@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 11d
With espresso machine or cold brewing it is quite trivial to make a really strong coffee
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 11d
Espresso is only something like 2-3x stronger though. A shot of espresso has less caffeine than a cup of coffee, it’s just more potent by volume.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10d
Technically the reason why espresso is weaker is the fact that the traditional espresso roast is quite dark, and the darker the roast, the less caffeine.
Most drip coffee is sold as medium roast.
lauha@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d
Yes, but espresso is not the atrongest atudf you can make on an espresso machine. It's just a standard.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 10d
So start with espresso and reduce it by half if you have an espresso machine. I have a simple on/off drip pot, and if I forget to drink my third mug or turn off the machine, I come back to find it has that condensed coffee flavor that's almost caramelized. People supposedly hate it, but I love it as long as it's not burned.
blackbrook@mander.xyz · 10 pts · 10d
I haven't tried this but I have misgivings, because generally boiling coffee, or extended heating has a tendency to make it taste like old truck tires.
Like a pot of drip just sitting on one of those burners to keep it warm starts tasting worse after about an hour. Can one reduce it quickly enough that this doesn't happen? Or once condensed is it just a different beast?
flatplutosociety@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10d
Yeah, the vanilla ice cream would probably negate the horrible bitterness of coffee that's been simmered that long, but this still sounds very bad. Maybe you could use cold brew concentrate instead?
FermiEstimate@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 9d
Yeah, I'd use freeze-dried coffee for this instead of trying to cook down a pot of coffee. Optionally mixed into a cup of fresh coffee instead of hot water.
warbond@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 11d
Maybe you could steep the coffee like tea, but I don't know if it would be as concentrated as boiling off the water
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 10d
you will get a stronger end result by reduction unless you're using a $500 coffee setup. most people only have dripers, so just by adding more grounds won't make the coffee as strong as it should be.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 11d
The first part reminds me of the bottled espresso concentrate I just found in a supermarket. So far, I used it for spicing up frothed milk for our cappucino and mixed some into the caramel custard which is currently cooling down for this evenings' dessert.
BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 10d
Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app · 9 pts · 11d
Shit, I'm game... almost sounds like a spinoff of an espresso martini.
Krusty@quokk.au · 3 pts · 11d
Shits*
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 10d
Isn't this just an alcoholic affogato? Well, more like a cocktail based on affogato.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
Affogato plus a whole bottle of vodka (I cannot countenance the gin suggestion)
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 9d
I bet someone in this thread talking about cocktails will accidentally say Moscow Mule when they mean to say White Russian, but probably only once. More than once would be ridiculous.
5wim@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 9d
It'd be ridiculous because there isn't really any chance someone makes that mistake, and a whole other separate person doesn't see it and then makes the same error
pishadoot@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 9d
Is anyone as upset as me about the idea of coffee and gin
bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 9d
I've accidentally made Moscow mules using gin instead of vodka. It's weird but not awful. That's nearly what this recipe is. Just use espresso or espresso liqueur instead of doing all that coffee boiling.
Edit: I said Moscow Mule when I meant White Russian like 3 times in this thread. In my defense, I'm somewhat new to drinking.
pishadoot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 9d
No bro this is nothing like a Moscow mule. Those are fine with gin.
There is no ice cream or coffee in a Moscow mule, they have like ginger ale and lime?? Just because it also comes in a cup does not make it a similar drink.
bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 9d
Yeah, I said Mule when I meant White Russian (with ice cream instead of cream). And they are weird but kind of OK with gin. Not normal by any means, but not (to me) horrible. But my taste buds are old and I've had COVID 3 times so YMMV.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9d
Wow, 4 servings in a bottle of vodka is insane. I would do this but absolutely with whiskey or rum or even an añejo tequila not vodka or gin. And half as much of it. And then call it 8 servings!
bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 9d
With vodka it's very nearly a Moscow mule and would probably be great. IDK about the nutmeg, though.
Edit: Goddammit, I meant White Russian, not Moscow mule. :facepalm:
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 9d
4 servings? No. But it will definitely serve (and then borderline over serve) 4 people no problem! That's, what, like 4 or 5 shots each or something depending on your pours?
The nice thing about it is it's sort of self limiting: it takes a long time to reduce a pot of coffee, so probably nobody is getting their stomach pumped 😬.
fuzzzerd@programming.dev · 3 pts · 10d
750ml serves four people? I guess the name makes sense...
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10d
Seems like a slug of simple syrup would smooth this out
protist@retrofed.com · 1 pts · 9d
Is there not enough sugar in the ice cream?
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
For whatever flavor, have you ever heard of ice cream syrup that isn’t syrup?
ICastFist@programming.dev · 1 pts · 9d
I have no fucking clue how awful this might be, but I'll try it
mudstickmcgee@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 9d
It's been 10 hours, how long does it take to boil down that coffee?
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
This sounds like one of those deranged AI generated recipes, maybe it's just been mimicking things like this the whole time
Crescent@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 9d
Someone calculate the caffeine and alcohol content of this
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9d
Add a pill...BOOM!...a Cosby Cocktail!