I think that you're right to assume that corporations do not give a fuck beyond profit. I think you're wrong to assume that they somehow 'knew'. Occam's Razor dictates that they likely didn't.
Oh no, they knew plastics were bad news. They invented recycling to shift the conversation to consumers and now our entire planet is blanketed with it.
Or your favorite niche flavor of dorito in the corner store at 2am Sunday morning. This is what I mean when I say that while yes most ecological damage is caused by large corporations, there would still also have to be fundamental changes to a huge number of people's everyday lives. Convenience culture would have to die and I don't even know if I'm personally ready for that.
It's not just convenience alone. Plastic over soil reduces the use of water and energy. Plastic in packing and shipping even in-season local produce extends its life and reduces waste, can help keep things sanitary/safer longer.
We use plastic not just because it's cheap (even though it is), but also because it's really easy to form impermeable barriers for water/moisture, air, contaminants, microbes (both wanted and unwanted). We can debate whether those uses are worth the ecological or even health cost, but we have to acknowledge that refusing to use plastic also carries a cost, too.
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W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 15d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 15d
you can also eat the bottle, if its plastic.
DeLancre@piefed.social · 1 pts · 15d
I bet bottle made of that nasty reusable thing called glass. Absolute disgrace.
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 15d
When you see shit like this, you KNOW, they knew the shit was bad bit didn't want to lose profit.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 15d
I don't think so.
Human history can be summed up in two words: unintended consequences.
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 15 pts · 15d
After seeing this happen with so many other things, it's hard to think of the corporation as a hapless victim of chance.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 15d
I think that you're right to assume that corporations do not give a fuck beyond profit. I think you're wrong to assume that they somehow 'knew'. Occam's Razor dictates that they likely didn't.
GoTeamBoobies@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12d
Here's one story about forever chemicals and executives knowing
https://www.propublica.org/article/3m-forever-chemicals-pfas-pfos-inside-story
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 15d
Oh no, they knew plastics were bad news. They invented recycling to shift the conversation to consumers and now our entire planet is blanketed with it.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-the-public-into-believing-plastic-would-be-recycled
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 15d
djsiete@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 15d
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 15d
Or your favorite niche flavor of dorito in the corner store at 2am Sunday morning. This is what I mean when I say that while yes most ecological damage is caused by large corporations, there would still also have to be fundamental changes to a huge number of people's everyday lives. Convenience culture would have to die and I don't even know if I'm personally ready for that.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 14d
It's not just convenience alone. Plastic over soil reduces the use of water and energy. Plastic in packing and shipping even in-season local produce extends its life and reduces waste, can help keep things sanitary/safer longer.
We use plastic not just because it's cheap (even though it is), but also because it's really easy to form impermeable barriers for water/moisture, air, contaminants, microbes (both wanted and unwanted). We can debate whether those uses are worth the ecological or even health cost, but we have to acknowledge that refusing to use plastic also carries a cost, too.
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 14d
Where else am I gonna get my daily recommended dose of Vitamin P?
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
You just gotta ask. I can supply you with a daily intake of vitamin p anytime.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
Reminds me of that Cronenberg movie, Crimes of the Future
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
Great movie. The ear person was kind of off-putting though.
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
ash@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 15d
Thank you for all the microplastics in my brain.
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
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IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
You're back again lol
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 15d
God damn he came back and I missed it. Impressive work, mods
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
Haha dam isnt that exhausting keeping up with so many different accounts?
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15d
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 15d
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 15d
So tell me, were you actually an extra from ireland? 🤣
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15d
OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 15d
What shows or movies have you been an extra in?
IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15d
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IAmTheMusicMan@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 15d
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sam_the_tech@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 15d
Now THATS a spicy meatball!