Lebanon on Tuesday became the first Middle East country to formally abolish the death penalty. Lebanon had not carried out an execution since 2004.
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18 Comments
Marty_TF@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 12d
there's been dozens if not hundreds of executions in lebanon tho.
then again, the executioner was israel...
CovertOperative@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 11d
Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and the UN all in favor of slavery over execution. Am I the only one who thinks that's worse?
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 11d
I think it's better because if new evidence surfaces and proves innocence, the prisoner could be freed. You can't unexecute someone.
cosmos8188@leminal.space · 1 pts · 11d
While I'd do agree, there is other things you can't undo. Both the person themselves and the external factors would be against the impacted person.
The person will be left with lifelong trauma, PTSD and sorts of other illnesses including physical illnesses; in addition to that, sustaining life would be a challenge.
In terms of external factors, the society will always look down on that person; in addition, finding jobs would be nearly impossible making financial sustainment difficult and enabling homelessness.
I'm not making it appear as one option is better than the other, but puting into realisation that the system is constructed to break people no matter if the person is inoccent or not. The issue is the system.
mholiv@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 11d
Personally speaking I’d rather live with a chance of proving my innocence than die. I suspect most people would feel the same.
cosmos8188@leminal.space · 1 pts · 11d
mholiv@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d
I mean this in the most caring way I can. That way you describe things reminds me of an ex I had that had suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
I’m not saying your case is similar, but staying alive just because there is a feeling of letting people down if you don’t, was a red flag that helped my ex get into therapy and eventually a medication that improved their life.
Just a thought. Healthy brains don’t generally don’t wish for death, only holding back due to guilt. In the case of my ex it was a chemical imbalance that was able to be fixed.
Again not saying this is the case for you. But the way you talk here really reminded me of some important talks I had with someone going through a very particular mental health situation.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 11d
While I'd agree it is slavery. There are definitely some people I think deserve to have their rights entirely restricted forever and contribute to society with the understanding they will never benefit from it themselves which sure you can call slavery but I think most would refer to it as a form of punishment and service.
CovertOperative@piefed.zip · -1 pts · 11d
If criminals, even just those who are proven guilty of the worst crimes without doubt, are forced to provide free labor, society directly benefits from their crimes and is incentivised not to prevent them.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 11d
I think that's a perverted way to view it.
As of right now private companies benefit from imprisoning people so they lobby to keep certain laws and retain an abundance of prisoners from petty crimes. On top of more private industries benefitting from selling military grade tech to police forces.
People being forced to provide free labor as an alternative to the death penalty is the lesser problem in the face of that.
HuskerX@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 12d
I'm warming up to the death penalty. Not for any specific crime necessarily, but some individuals are just beyond repair or rehabilitation.
ati@piefed.social · 3 pts · 11d
Does the state have the right to kill?
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 11d
While I do agree that some are beyond repair or rehabilitation, I disagree that the death penalty is the best way to deal with them. Even if proven to have done a crime worthy (such as with DNA), I firmly believe that it's the easy way out for a lot of offenders. Life in prison without the chance of rehab is a much worse punishment in my eyes. Additionally, in many countries, the death penalty is more expensive than just keeping someone in prison for life. The modern & "humane" ways to execute people are very expensive.
HuskerX@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11d
I'm talking more about serial killers, serial rapists, repeat violent offenders etc. who do not respond to rehabilitation after ample opportunities. Death penalty cannot be more expensive than incarcerating people for decades. All that you need for capital punishment is a tough piece of rope and gravity. But if you want to use more humane methods, voluntary euthanasia costs in Switzerland are about $13k, which is far less than housing someone in a maximum security prison for even one year.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11d
I don't trust the justice system and I don't trust the media not to railroad someone for ratings.
Ugurcan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11d
Isn’t Turkiye abolished it like 30 yrs ago?
BrikoX@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11d
Turkey is not in the Middle East but they did in 2004. Though they want to bring it back now.
Ugurcan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11d
For whom exactly? I heard they’re preparing to release the super baddy, the OG Kurdish leader Ocalan now
kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 11d
turkey is in the middle east