Finally saw Tenet, liked it. This list is weighted for Nolan. I'm a fan so I like all his work.
I'd love to see y'all's opinions: https://tiermaker.com/create/christopher-nolan-movies-15411593
Finally saw Tenet, liked it. This list is weighted for Nolan. I'm a fan so I like all his work.
I'd love to see y'all's opinions: https://tiermaker.com/create/christopher-nolan-movies-15411593
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milk@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 4d
Dark Knight so low is criminal
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 4 pts · 4d
i used to love batman, the premise rubs me the wrong way these days
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 3 pts · 4d
Why?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 4d
A billionaire beating the shit out of the impoverished, mentally handicapped citizens of a city he practically owns, perhaps? Most of the villains are literally people who worked for Wayne Corp. that suffered accidents on the job due to terrible working conditions.
Edit: Batman on the whole. Not just "The Dark Knight." FFS. 🤦♂️
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 5 pts · 3d
Demonstrably false. This narrative is addressed in the movies directly. Not even subtext, just the plot.
Before he even becomes Batman, he does consider killing the guy who murdered his parents. He is beat to it, so he is forced to find another way for "vengeance". He briefly considers killing Falcone who was rumored to be related to the killer and had the killer killed, and a well known mob boss. Falcone berates him for this, and how Bruce doesn't actually "have nothing to lose" because he doesn't understand what led to Falcone running the city or even what desperation is. He's never had to experience it before. Despite Bruce being the "Prince of Gotham", Falcone pulled out a gun and could have easily shot him dead in front of a judge and several off duty cops.
From this, Bruce learns that you can't solve crime by punching gang members, or even the gang boss. He had to learn the socioeconomic factors that led to the type of inequality that led to the type of crime and corruption that Gotham characterizes. He had to give up everything to be able to understand people that come from nothing. He had to starve, steal to survive, be thrown in a third world jail cell a few times. Learn how to fight. Learn how to be a detective. Learn how to see the bigger picture. Learn how to be a symbol instead of it being about his personal hurt feelings and anger. Only when he was done did he return.
And he starts by confronting corruption directly by intimidating a corrupt cop. He HELPS the mentally ill who were being put in cells with violent gang members because Scarecrow was lying about their condition or dosing them with weaponized hallucinogens if that didn't work.
He spends the rest of the movies fighting off terrorists, most of which are genocidal.
Not a single villain worked for Wayne Industries. I have never even heard of a Batman villain who has that back story, even in the comics. In fact, Icould make you a top 100 best/most popular Batman villains list and none of them have the origin of being personally wronged by Bruce Wayne OR Batman, in any way. He rooted out corruption in the local government, dismantled the mob, and these days fights whatever random terrorist, assassin, or smart guy with a ridiculously circuitous scheme threatens the lives of regular people.
He also dumps millions into charity, and has been known to hire low level gang members that seem alright enough but thought that crime was their only path. And they have great benefits and working conditions. One time a guy robbed Bruce Wayne of a very sentimental heirloom, and when he found out it was to sell to be able to feed his kid, Batman just took it back with no violence, no call to the cops and left a few thousand dollars on the table.
Batman isnt perfect as a person or concept, but he takes care of people. To claim otherwise is absurd.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 5 pts · 4d
Villains in The Dark Knight are:
The Joker whose backstory is not known,
Two Face who was a district attorney,
Salvatore Maroni who is a mafia boss,
and guest appearance by Scarecrow who used to ve a doctor at Arkham Asylum.
So when you say
What the hell are you talking about?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · -3 pts · 4d
Batman in general, not just the fuckin' movies. 🤦♂️
FatVegan@leminal.space · 1 pts · 4d
A rich guy spending his money to improvise the life of the everyday guy would be so interesting and fun to watch, even more fjn to read about. Gotham city is cursed, it's not real, eceryone who had money is corrupt, everyone who gets rich and or powerful gets corrupted by it. These are just stories, complaining about billionaire batman is just the other side of the bellcurve of people who want him to kill the joker. What a riveting book that would be, boom, he died, no more joker i guess
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 0 pts · 4d
the kyle rittenhouse fantasy vibes give me the ick in 2026
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 5d
“Weighted for Nolan”
What does that phrase mean to you?
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 4 pts · 5d
like i don't know if anything by nolan is as low as C tier compared to movies in general
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 4d
When you weigh something in a comparison that something is getting a leg up on the other items in the chart.
For example if you had a chart of Nolan and Spielberg movies, Nolan would be weighted.
As all of these are Nolan movies there is nothing to “weigh”
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 6 pts · 4d
they're weighted against each other. like The Prestige is probably an S tier movie overall, but compared to Nolan's other work, it's only A tier.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 4d
They are weighted against each other based on the guy who directed them?
Ok cool. The Prestige blows Oppenheimer (movie was dogshit) out of the water and is also orders of magnitude better than the clumsy Dunkirk.
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4d
i do really love the prestige that maybe should be s tier too
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 4 pts · 5d
Insomnia & Following are S tier but closer to Mememto in directing
TheImpressiveX@piefed.social · 4 pts · 5d
Is that The Odyssey in the fourth S-tier?
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 4 pts · 5d
yes
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 4d
Insomnia is just alright.
IanTwenty@piefed.social · 2 pts · 4d
It's one of his most 'standard', by-the-numbers films I think, and his first work with a studio. I feel like he played it safe but maybe that's fair enough as it was important to his career that it went well.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Memento = S-Tier
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 4d
bowsertattoo@piefed.social · 2 pts · 4d
yeah bc it's weighted
IanTwenty@piefed.social · -2 pts · 4d
I thought The Prestige to be very bad, particularly the plot. Laughable even.