Ability to reason is necessary prerequisite to moral culpability. 8 month old toddlers know nothing about moral and are not responsible for their actions and neither are some 80 yo demented seniors.
Neither one of them should, for the same reason, be a president, but here we are...
One of the few things I'd grant Donald Trump is a level of thinking above that if a 8yo toddler. Also dementia isn't taking away moral responsibility, it just makes ones actions more blatant and less obfuscated, removing the masking that someone did to present like a moral actor in the past.
But I do not see why you would be so adamant to protect Trump from moral judgement. I would think the dementia is the least of all things why he shouldn't be in office, because, you know, all the crime.
Look at those gleeful faces in the background. They love that shit.
::: spoiler Spoiler
I hope it's hyperbole but I think he could go on live-TV tomorrow and say something like:
"From now on, I need a daily virgin sacrifice, ok?
Who could have known? It juveniles my pedo buds"
Then watch how MAGAt's crawl over each other in hope he chooses their daughter.
:::
Many also agree and see him as a pedophile role model. It's sickening all the way through and from the top to the bottom of everyone who is part of it.
The fact that I'm not at all suprised conservatives/regressives chose a felon rapist pedophile to represent them shows how right Hillary was when she called them deplorables.
Some guys just get honier and hornier with age. They may not be able to always do anything about it, but they think about it. My 88 year old demented grandpa would watch women's volleyball all day. He would record it, and he figured out how to order it in his TV. All day long, just watching volleyball like it was the most normal thing in the world.
Ok, coming from someone who actually voted for him in 2016, before the war started, I was saying someone just needs to go into the oval office and just say "ok grandpa, its time to go to bed, sh shhhh, its ok, you just need a nice nap. Dont worry about the country, its OK, its just time to go to bed." Or even going as far as just moving him while hes asleep into a replica white house, tell him he cleaned out all his people and that he picked these new people to help him run things and then replace them with actors that just tell him hes doing great.
At least you admit it, which is better than me. I probably wouldn't admit to voting for that fat orange sack of shit if I had done so, even if only to make a point.
He was going to drain the swamp. He was going to stop insider trading. He was going to stop foreign involvement. He was an outsider. A rebel. He wanted to run independent but could only win as a republican. I never thought he would actually win. I think there were a lot of people like me who thought it would be funny. In hindsight, it wasn't really funny and he didnt actually do any of that stuff he said. And then people voted for him again, and then when he lost he ran again and won!??!?
I'm not going to disparage you for voting for him once. You seem to have some humility and realize it was a mistake. If we're ever going to get out of this we have to make allies, and build community, which I think we are sorely lacking.
The saying should only apply to people with strategies and grand schemes. Our saying in Dutch is like 'he walks behind his dick' (as in the dick is in charge and he follows his dick's lead) which i find much more applicable to someone like Trump.
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14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 58 pts · 17d
It is almost like a tourette symdrom. He knows he shouldn't, but he can't help himself.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 17d
The difference is that Tourettes is a serious mental disorder over which one had no agency, whereas Trump is just a shitty human being.
The rape, the grift, the corruption is all intentional. He is morally responsable and should be held accountable.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 17d
I mean his dimentia certainly doesn't help either.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 17d
no one is disputing that trump is shitty human being - two things can be true at the same time.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 17d
No but comparing it to Tourettes is absolving him from reasonability, by comparison, which is abject.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 16d
at this point, i am pretty sure he is completely demented, so i really wonder how much reason is left there.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 16d
I don't care about reason, I care about moral culpability.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 16d
Ability to reason is necessary prerequisite to moral culpability. 8 month old toddlers know nothing about moral and are not responsible for their actions and neither are some 80 yo demented seniors.
Neither one of them should, for the same reason, be a president, but here we are...
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 16d
One of the few things I'd grant Donald Trump is a level of thinking above that if a 8yo toddler. Also dementia isn't taking away moral responsibility, it just makes ones actions more blatant and less obfuscated, removing the masking that someone did to present like a moral actor in the past.
But I do not see why you would be so adamant to protect Trump from moral judgement. I would think the dementia is the least of all things why he shouldn't be in office, because, you know, all the crime.
M137@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
syndrome*
Waffelmeister@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 17d
Look at those gleeful faces in the background. They love that shit.
::: spoiler Spoiler I hope it's hyperbole but I think he could go on live-TV tomorrow and say something like: "From now on, I need a daily virgin sacrifice, ok? Who could have known? It juveniles my pedo buds" Then watch how MAGAt's crawl over each other in hope he chooses their daughter. :::
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 16d
Every single one of them thinks this is funny. Every single one of them.
M137@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16d
Many also agree and see him as a pedophile role model. It's sickening all the way through and from the top to the bottom of everyone who is part of it.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 16d
He won't take their children, he'll take ours, just like he's taking immigrant children now.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 26 pts · 17d
Sick fuck
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 17d
The subtitle shouldn't say "Epstein’s best friend...". It's should say "Pedophile..."
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 18 pts · 17d
Porque no los dos?
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 16d
Are these the same NY cops who boo’d Mamdani off stage a couple weeks ago?
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 16d
The fact that I'm not at all suprised conservatives/regressives chose a felon rapist pedophile to represent them shows how right Hillary was when she called them deplorables.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 16d
they just wanted to feel represented
Almacca@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 17d
Dude's 80 and is still thinking with his dick. :|
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 16d
Some guys just get honier and hornier with age. They may not be able to always do anything about it, but they think about it. My 88 year old demented grandpa would watch women's volleyball all day. He would record it, and he figured out how to order it in his TV. All day long, just watching volleyball like it was the most normal thing in the world.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 16d
At least that's pretty harmless. He's also probably not president of a country of 350 million people.
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
Ok, coming from someone who actually voted for him in 2016, before the war started, I was saying someone just needs to go into the oval office and just say "ok grandpa, its time to go to bed, sh shhhh, its ok, you just need a nice nap. Dont worry about the country, its OK, its just time to go to bed." Or even going as far as just moving him while hes asleep into a replica white house, tell him he cleaned out all his people and that he picked these new people to help him run things and then replace them with actors that just tell him hes doing great.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
At least you admit it, which is better than me. I probably wouldn't admit to voting for that fat orange sack of shit if I had done so, even if only to make a point.
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15d
He was going to drain the swamp. He was going to stop insider trading. He was going to stop foreign involvement. He was an outsider. A rebel. He wanted to run independent but could only win as a republican. I never thought he would actually win. I think there were a lot of people like me who thought it would be funny. In hindsight, it wasn't really funny and he didnt actually do any of that stuff he said. And then people voted for him again, and then when he lost he ran again and won!??!?
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
I'm not going to disparage you for voting for him once. You seem to have some humility and realize it was a mistake. If we're ever going to get out of this we have to make allies, and build community, which I think we are sorely lacking.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 16d
They got better fundamentals.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16d
Not like he has a choice. He's got nothing else to think with.
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 16d
Sperm productions never stops. Men do not have a menopause equivalent.
That being said, women also can get more horny as they age
huppakee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 17d
Not sure whether I'd call that thinking though
ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 17d
It's a mushroom
Almacca@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 16d
It's just a turn of phrase.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16d
The saying should only apply to people with strategies and grand schemes. Our saying in Dutch is like 'he walks behind his dick' (as in the dick is in charge and he follows his dick's lead) which i find much more applicable to someone like Trump.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 17d
He's rubbing it in, that's what he always does.
BenReilly23@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 16d
Fucking weirdo smh ugh
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
We have uncensored some of them by copy-pasting and know exactly why, actually.