I know it's just a meme, but the two scores measure broadly similar things, though they're not exactly the same. In the US, the credit score determines how easily one can get access to loans, have favourable the terms are, and in some cases, employment and housing, though using the credit score for those last two are increasingly banned.
In China, use of the credit score is much more pervasive. For example, I know of one instance where a high Sesame score can let you rent a battery bank from a battery bank machine without paying a deposit. Or a pet store that I walked past which had a minimum score requirement to adopt. This is possibly because the concept of a score which measures trustworthiness is a much newer concept in China and they haven't had the chance to regulate it yet.
But the memes where people supposedly posting negative things about the government online lowering one's "social credit score" are false.
Dig into it and it looks like some of the private company run services did do social media scanning but it got rolled back, so it's not blind criticism. The central gov states they focus primarily on financial and legal status of individuals and businesses, but don't forget prosecutions for criticism of the government is common under the heading of "anti strife"
I really dislike the China/Russia glazing tankies here, but saying anyone can beat us is a baffling claim. Our war crimes abroad could rival every other country put together.
Even if you're just talking domestically that's a bold claim. For every Tiananmen massacre we've got a few Tulsa Race Massacres to pick from. For every Uyghur Genocide we've got a few Trail of Tears.
If you're limiting it to just domestically and recently our unconstitutional CIA programs on US citizens, private prison collusion with judges, and escalating ICE detentions could easily match the oppression of Hong Kong, Tibet, etc.
That's not to minimize the suffering China causes, but acting like we haven't spent 250 years perfecting the game is crazy to me. Have some shame like the rest of us.
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mossberg590@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 23h
Social credit score for all?
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 21h
It's the normal credit score.
I know it's just a meme, but the two scores measure broadly similar things, though they're not exactly the same. In the US, the credit score determines how easily one can get access to loans, have favourable the terms are, and in some cases, employment and housing, though using the credit score for those last two are increasingly banned.
In China, use of the credit score is much more pervasive. For example, I know of one instance where a high Sesame score can let you rent a battery bank from a battery bank machine without paying a deposit. Or a pet store that I walked past which had a minimum score requirement to adopt. This is possibly because the concept of a score which measures trustworthiness is a much newer concept in China and they haven't had the chance to regulate it yet.
But the memes where people supposedly posting negative things about the government online lowering one's "social credit score" are false.
mossberg590@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5h
The US has a financial credit score. The PRC had both financial and social credit score. Jay walking, protesting, etc reduce your social score.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 3h
Dig into it and it looks like some of the private company run services did do social media scanning but it got rolled back, so it's not blind criticism. The central gov states they focus primarily on financial and legal status of individuals and businesses, but don't forget prosecutions for criticism of the government is common under the heading of "anti strife"
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 1d
Worst, most annoying trope that exists on the fediverse. The USA has a lot further to fall before we're on par with China's human rights record.
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 21h
I'm Chinese and I also live in the US.
If one does not like being compared to China, perhaps one's government should not act comparably to China.
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 20h
Wow I wonder where you grew up to believe there's no separation between your interests and your government's interests.
Cherries@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20h
The US triple tapped a girls elementary school in Feburary.
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 20h
Thank God we heard about it so we can try to hold the govt accountable
SatansDaughter@quokk.au · 4 pts · 18h
And how's that working out for you
NateNate60@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 17h
Ask again in three months
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 22h
I feel like that's not a big ask for a country that's actively trying to cut the cords of its own parachute.
B1ackmsth@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 23h
"Okay but we're almost not as bad as China!" Cope
adhocfungus@midwest.social · 2 pts · 4h
I really dislike the China/Russia glazing tankies here, but saying anyone can beat us is a baffling claim. Our war crimes abroad could rival every other country put together.
Even if you're just talking domestically that's a bold claim. For every Tiananmen massacre we've got a few Tulsa Race Massacres to pick from. For every Uyghur Genocide we've got a few Trail of Tears.
If you're limiting it to just domestically and recently our unconstitutional CIA programs on US citizens, private prison collusion with judges, and escalating ICE detentions could easily match the oppression of Hong Kong, Tibet, etc.
That's not to minimize the suffering China causes, but acting like we haven't spent 250 years perfecting the game is crazy to me. Have some shame like the rest of us.
BabyVi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
You're gonna have to add some qualifiers about the time period to make that true.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 5h
Sorry fediverse hurt your feelings. Reality doesn't change, just because you call it a "trope" tho.
War criminals have been running USA for decades. Come back when they are held accountable to talk about human rights.
And fuck CCP too.