Are we at a point in human history where we can get robotic limbs and other things to better our day to day lives? Like a robotic arm where I can pick up 100lbs with one arm and so forth?
100 lbs with one robotic arm? Can you currently carry 100 pounds on one side of your body? If not.. uhh, having an arm attached to you that can carry 100 pounds will be meaningless. The REST of you has to have the strength to carry the arm and the 100 pounds.
Unless it's like some exoskeleton armature you climb into.
So, robotic limbs kind of exist to a degree in the prototype stage, but like, a robot arm by itself isnt going to let you casually lift 100lbs regardless of how advanced the arm itself is, unless you also have a spine, legs and attachment for that arm capable of handling that lifting too, or some kind of wearable exoskeleton to take the weight off those areas
Isn't the obvious problem whatever your arm lifts, the rest of your body has to support? an "arm" alone attached to a frail human body would pretty quickly hit its limits, and lifting 1000 lbs is basically giant exo skelleton level.
Don't think I've ever really watched it, but yeah his legs and arms were both enhanced, but if he were to ever do something like pick up a car or something, you'd likely expect his spine to snap unless he used some kind of leverage.
Powered exoskeletons do exist. IDK if most prosthesises are particularly sturdy, the connection to the body (i.e. arm/leg stump) would be a weak point that's difficult to overcome and most people are probably more interested in fine control.
Current state of the art accessible to a customer is way off from that. Exoskeletons are maybe ten to fifteen years out from being something that's going to be really ready for prime time, as an optimistic guesstimate. But that won't be personal gear unless you're very wealthy.
Honestly, because of how much demand there will be in industrial settings, I don't expect it to reach a level where the average person can just run out and buy one in any of our lifetimes. Maybe a generation after that? Two? But it is possible that it will within that time frame, but I expect they'll be absurdly expensive if so. Like high end sports car expensive, if you want them to be worth a damn.
Besides, the spare arm idea is limited in use, as others have said, by the ergonomics of it. A robot arm still needs to be securely attached to you, and the rest of your body has to compensate for the weight and motion. Even with super light materials, you won't get them lighter than your meat arm unless you want them weak
I think it's close? Like 5-20 years close for commercially available robotics prosthetics systems (probably still need doctor's prescriptions for it though)
We already have pretty well-established prosthetics systems at the moment
China and Japan (esp China) have some pretty exciting robotics breakthroughs, see the hilarious robotics Olympics from China recently
However, China isn't the best at manufacturing QC yet, so widespread deployment may take a few years from above
robotic prosthesis already exist. exoskeletons exist, but are very limited and not really practically useful outside of very specific use cases. robotic arms do a substantial amount of work in manufacturing, just not attached to people. remember, a robotic arm might be able to lift a load, but that arm just passes the lobe on to your shoulder, back, and legs. you still need to balance the forces in your body. an infinitely strong arm in isolation would have very limited use without a full robotic skeleton to support it. so yes, these things exist, but no, not in the sci fi manner you're thinking (nor would they be useful if they did exist). we have the technology, but physics in the real world is quite pesky.
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Elting@piefed.social · 36 pts · 17h
First thing you’d need is a robotic lower back
sbv@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 17h
I'd kill for a robotic lower back
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 17h
I second the motion
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 15h
I get a robot a back and I get to kill? Where do I sign?
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h
Best I can do is fuse some of your vetebrae.
bluesheep@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 8h
Well you know, at the very least you would have a second lower back
mappe@moplemmy.fyi · 2 pts · 14h
"Waiter, change my order to the robotic back!"
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 16h
100 lbs with one robotic arm? Can you currently carry 100 pounds on one side of your body? If not.. uhh, having an arm attached to you that can carry 100 pounds will be meaningless. The REST of you has to have the strength to carry the arm and the 100 pounds.
Unless it's like some exoskeleton armature you climb into.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 13 pts · 18h
So, robotic limbs kind of exist to a degree in the prototype stage, but like, a robot arm by itself isnt going to let you casually lift 100lbs regardless of how advanced the arm itself is, unless you also have a spine, legs and attachment for that arm capable of handling that lifting too, or some kind of wearable exoskeleton to take the weight off those areas
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 8 pts · 18h
No
TheFogan@programming.dev · 8 pts · 17h
Isn't the obvious problem whatever your arm lifts, the rest of your body has to support? an "arm" alone attached to a frail human body would pretty quickly hit its limits, and lifting 1000 lbs is basically giant exo skelleton level.
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 12h
This is why the 6 Million Dollar Man was such a farse.
TheFogan@programming.dev · 1 pts · 2h
Don't think I've ever really watched it, but yeah his legs and arms were both enhanced, but if he were to ever do something like pick up a car or something, you'd likely expect his spine to snap unless he used some kind of leverage.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 18h
Powered exoskeletons do exist. IDK if most prosthesises are particularly sturdy, the connection to the body (i.e. arm/leg stump) would be a weak point that's difficult to overcome and most people are probably more interested in fine control.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 4 pts · 18h
Yes Don. There are cyborgs amongst us.
Patnou@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 18h
Jesus christ your BS again. You must love me to follow me around.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 17h
Now kith...
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 17h
Follow you around? Your account posts everywhere, all the time!
Patnou@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4h
But you don't well I don't think you take it off site.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4h
Time for your meds, Donny
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 2 pts · 4h
Follow you around? You spam this comm with meaningless questions all fucking day lol.
Did you get caught lying in your military photo thread and have to delete it hahaha
Patnou@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 4h
I am not in the military. Never said that. Show me the thread.
TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social · 1 pts · 4h
Your deleted thread? Yes, I'll get right on that. Lol.
I never said you were in the military, dumbnuts.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 16h
Not yet, no.
Current state of the art accessible to a customer is way off from that. Exoskeletons are maybe ten to fifteen years out from being something that's going to be really ready for prime time, as an optimistic guesstimate. But that won't be personal gear unless you're very wealthy.
Honestly, because of how much demand there will be in industrial settings, I don't expect it to reach a level where the average person can just run out and buy one in any of our lifetimes. Maybe a generation after that? Two? But it is possible that it will within that time frame, but I expect they'll be absurdly expensive if so. Like high end sports car expensive, if you want them to be worth a damn.
Besides, the spare arm idea is limited in use, as others have said, by the ergonomics of it. A robot arm still needs to be securely attached to you, and the rest of your body has to compensate for the weight and motion. Even with super light materials, you won't get them lighter than your meat arm unless you want them weak
kettuli@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
It’s coming, just not quite there yet.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1h
"we?" are you rich? if yes, then "we" can. Not? Then nope we cant
zlatiah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h
I think it's close? Like 5-20 years close for commercially available robotics prosthetics systems (probably still need doctor's prescriptions for it though)
BaraCoded@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 16h
Where are the goddamn exosquelettons, guys? Where are the mechas?
remon@ani.social · 1 pts · 11h
erin@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 17h
robotic prosthesis already exist. exoskeletons exist, but are very limited and not really practically useful outside of very specific use cases. robotic arms do a substantial amount of work in manufacturing, just not attached to people. remember, a robotic arm might be able to lift a load, but that arm just passes the lobe on to your shoulder, back, and legs. you still need to balance the forces in your body. an infinitely strong arm in isolation would have very limited use without a full robotic skeleton to support it. so yes, these things exist, but no, not in the sci fi manner you're thinking (nor would they be useful if they did exist). we have the technology, but physics in the real world is quite pesky.