A friendly reminder for the people bootlicking: you can like someone as a person and support various policy victories while also recognizing that making middle eastern children fear the sky due to drone strikes is a heinous thing that rightfully tarnishes his time in office.
I mean, make a list of the the US presidents from the past oh, 40 years. Who would you say is the most kind, considerate and charismatic one on that list?
You mean the hostage crisis Reagan's campaign that covertly negotiated with Iranian leaders to undermine incumbent Carter by delaying the release of the hostages.
Hard to argue with "charismatic", that's a skill and Obama is so good at it that the USA voted for a black president, twice. He got an actual nobel peace price for his campain, i.e. literally just based on vibes (which says a lot about the nobel commitee, but still).
Yes, Obama could have just snapped his fingers and ended america's involvement in the Middle East. There's no way he'd have been impeached or voted out.
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 5d
A friendly reminder for the people bootlicking: you can like someone as a person and support various policy victories while also recognizing that making middle eastern children fear the sky due to drone strikes is a heinous thing that rightfully tarnishes his time in office.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 5d
I mean, make a list of the the US presidents from the past oh, 40 years. Who would you say is the most kind, considerate and charismatic one on that list?
Cort@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d
If you'd said 50 years it would be Carter by a fucking landslide
f1error@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
I remember those four years very well, maybe not so much.
If the hostage crisis hadn't happened, then 100% yes. But since it did happen...
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3d
You mean the hostage crisis Reagan's campaign that covertly negotiated with Iranian leaders to undermine incumbent Carter by delaying the release of the hostages.
marcos@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 5d
Well, except for Biden he was the most kind and considerate recent US president.
And he was the most charismatic.
inari@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 5d
Just don't ask Afghan wedding goers what they think of Obama
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 8 pts · 3d
Hard to argue with "charismatic", that's a skill and Obama is so good at it that the USA voted for a black president, twice. He got an actual nobel peace price for his campain, i.e. literally just based on vibes (which says a lot about the nobel commitee, but still).
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 3d
half black president..
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1d
if only “half black” made people half as racist
then nobody would feel the need to post a comment that he’s only “half black” and now we have a whole paradox
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
merely stating a fact.. make of that what you will
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 4 pts · 5d
Yes, Obama could have just snapped his fingers and ended america's involvement in the Middle East. There's no way he'd have been impeached or voted out.
marcos@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 5d
He could have not ordered hundreds of war crimes.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 5d
Obama was the best president this country has ever had. It's a pretty low bar, so...
Ikon@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 5d
Maybe out of recent presidents, but overall, he was an amazing speaker but a very mid persistent.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 3 pts · 3d
Ever had? Really? What exactly did he do that is so astounding?