C-sections are overprescribed for white people in the USA. (I don’t mean that in a “all lives matter”.) Brown people are even more excessive. Patient welfare is low on the list.
But it sure is profitableconvenient for the OB in the patient’s best interest.
You're correct. Hospitals request it because it speeds up maternity stays, drives up bills, doctors are advised to because it has less "risk" for malpractice. Long term health issues increase with c-sections.
its more expensive, SURGERY= more profit for a hospital/surgeon+ hospital stay, medicaiton,,etc. obviously if the mother has a baby they cant deliver naturally, other than that its an upsell. C-sections also makes the mother have to heal for some years before having another baby.
Well, in civilized countries, it is a health choice taken by doctors based on a benefice/risk analysis. And the cost (of operation and healing) is covered by society.
In abusive countries, it is just a matter of profit.
The beauty of capitalism in full display for all to see . The different media organizations , journalists , and movie directors continue to be bought out and after gaining control of these organizations , journalists, and their directors they just keep on pushing that message that 'oNlY mOthErHoOD oR FaThErHoOd wILl mAke yOu a cOmpLetE pErsON' . All they want is for you to make more slaves for them to work a slave wage job or to conscript so they can send off to ANOTHER needless war. We have thousands of homeless kids all over the world on the street who get trafficked or killed by these Epsteinites . And yet most people are just.... 'A-OK' with this current status quo of bought out media and inhumaneness!? Why?
"All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie .This is a fact. No one will ever be able to refute it." - V. I. Lenin
A Letter To G. Myasnikov[1] , Written: 5 August, 1921
'money for wars, but can’t feed the poor' - Tupac
There is nothing wrong with living a life where you just feel completely fulfilled as a person even though you have no children at all. ESPECIALLY in an inhumane, anti-child world like this!
Why dont we want to change this status quo? Why do we want to force people to have children in such a disgusting world as this?
what the hell is wrong with these countries that have the capacity to pay or the medical expenses that a person has thrown at them cause sometimes life just sucks and is unfair , lets be honest ....but choose not to?!?
What's even sadder is that in generic polls over 60% of Americans want a form of universal healthcare. The problem is the current system is so good at extracting money from people pushes for real change get immense push back from the entrenched medical industry. Even looking past the shitty corrupt insurance companies basically all pharmaceutical companies around the globe benefit from it too much to to let it go quietly. Americans only account for 27% of global income for pharma but are 64 - 78% of profits. Here is a source for those stats, its a bit old but I bet the numbers are even worse these days. https://schaeffer.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/01.2018_Global20Burden20of20Medical20Innovation.pdf
Is this a community for people who have chosen not to have children, or an anti-natalism community? Trying to convince everyone else that they must make the same decision as you comes off very insecure.
It's a community for people who want to commune with similar-minded people, actually. That encompasses a wide spectrum, including people who simply don't want kids of their own, right up to antinatalists, but notably not people who have or want kids of their own.
Trying to convince everyone else that they must make the same decision as you comes off very insecure.
No one's doing any of that. If we were trying to convince other people this would be posted in a parenting community, not in a childfree community whose members are already on board with the idea.
I thought everybody in the US got a C section for the hospital's convenience. I knew someone who had a lot of trouble finding a location for a natural birth because it would mess up the scheduling and it might occur outside of daytime hours. It was Texas though...
Not everyone. I was under the assumption that C-sections were kinda last resorts. I believe myself and all my siblings were vaginal births, and my child was, too. Granted, the "Texas" part of your comment is probably doing a lot of work.
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TIN@feddit.uk · 50 pts · 1d
But why would a c-section land you in debt... Ohhh, US healthcare of course
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
Add on the fact that black and brown people are over prescribed c sections in the US and the systemic racism is clear.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 1d
C-sections are overprescribed for white people in the USA. (I don’t mean that in a “all lives matter”.) Brown people are even more excessive. Patient welfare is low on the list.
But it sure is
profitableconvenient for the OBin the patient’s best interest.apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
You're correct. Hospitals request it because it speeds up maternity stays, drives up bills, doctors are advised to because it has less "risk" for malpractice. Long term health issues increase with c-sections.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 14h
I'm not sure it would land you in that much more debt than a vaginal birth.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 21h
its more expensive, SURGERY= more profit for a hospital/surgeon+ hospital stay, medicaiton,,etc. obviously if the mother has a baby they cant deliver naturally, other than that its an upsell. C-sections also makes the mother have to heal for some years before having another baby.
peacepath@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
Well, in civilized countries, it is a health choice taken by doctors based on a benefice/risk analysis. And the cost (of operation and healing) is covered by society. In abusive countries, it is just a matter of profit.
red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 1d
This has nothing to do with wanting kids or not. That dude's a massive cunt.
atro_city@fedia.io · 13 pts · 1d
People influenced by the uber-wealthy and religion sound insane.
UnequalExchange@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
The beauty of capitalism in full display for all to see . The different media organizations , journalists , and movie directors continue to be bought out and after gaining control of these organizations , journalists, and their directors they just keep on pushing that message that 'oNlY mOthErHoOD oR FaThErHoOd wILl mAke yOu a cOmpLetE pErsON' . All they want is for you to make more slaves for them to work a slave wage job or to conscript so they can send off to ANOTHER needless war. We have thousands of homeless kids all over the world on the street who get trafficked or killed by these Epsteinites . And yet most people are just.... 'A-OK' with this current status quo of bought out media and inhumaneness!? Why?
"All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie .This is a fact. No one will ever be able to refute it." - V. I. Lenin
A Letter To G. Myasnikov[1] , Written: 5 August, 1921
'money for wars, but can’t feed the poor' - Tupac
There is nothing wrong with living a life where you just feel completely fulfilled as a person even though you have no children at all. ESPECIALLY in an inhumane, anti-child world like this!
Why dont we want to change this status quo? Why do we want to force people to have children in such a disgusting world as this?
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 1d
This isn't even a "childfree" issue. This is just women having kids with shitty self centered men.
NoDignity@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
It is that but the biggest issue IMO is that anyone would need to go into debt to pay for medical care.
UnequalExchange@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h
what the hell is wrong with these countries that have the capacity to pay or the medical expenses that a person has thrown at them cause sometimes life just sucks and is unfair , lets be honest ....but choose not to?!?
NoDignity@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4h
What's even sadder is that in generic polls over 60% of Americans want a form of universal healthcare. The problem is the current system is so good at extracting money from people pushes for real change get immense push back from the entrenched medical industry. Even looking past the shitty corrupt insurance companies basically all pharmaceutical companies around the globe benefit from it too much to to let it go quietly. Americans only account for 27% of global income for pharma but are 64 - 78% of profits. Here is a source for those stats, its a bit old but I bet the numbers are even worse these days. https://schaeffer.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/01.2018_Global20Burden20of20Medical20Innovation.pdf
UnequalExchange@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
Bruh Americans have all these guns ans other weapons and dont want to use them to change this system....
Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1d
Is this a community for people who have chosen not to have children, or an anti-natalism community? Trying to convince everyone else that they must make the same decision as you comes off very insecure.
destructdisc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
It's a community for people who want to commune with similar-minded people, actually. That encompasses a wide spectrum, including people who simply don't want kids of their own, right up to antinatalists, but notably not people who have or want kids of their own.
No one's doing any of that. If we were trying to convince other people this would be posted in a parenting community, not in a childfree community whose members are already on board with the idea.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I thought being childfree was a personal choice, not a choice you demand others to make, regardless of their poor decision making skills
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
I thought everybody in the US got a C section for the hospital's convenience. I knew someone who had a lot of trouble finding a location for a natural birth because it would mess up the scheduling and it might occur outside of daytime hours. It was Texas though...
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1d
Not everyone. I was under the assumption that C-sections were kinda last resorts. I believe myself and all my siblings were vaginal births, and my child was, too. Granted, the "Texas" part of your comment is probably doing a lot of work.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
Yeah, that's not a thing, even here in Texas. It's a last resort that virtually any doctor would prefer natural vs c section.
I will say, they do kind of want you at the very last stages of contractions before you show up at the hospital though.
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
Ok. Happy to be corrected from my n=1 anecdote.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
What comfort? Recovery from c section is long and painful, requiring help with everything for weeks. Compared to that, vaginal delivery is a breeze.
UnequalExchange@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 21h
....Either theyre a troll or we need to bring psych wards back lol.