2023 Japanese Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread

ROUND 17: 🇯🇵 FORMULA 1 LENOVO JAPANESE GRAND PRIX 2023

Circuit stats
First Grand Prix	1987
Number of laps	53
Circuit Length	5.807 km
Race Distance	307.471 km
Lap record	1:30.983 Lewis Hamilton (2019)
2022 winner	Max Verstappen

46 points · 85 comments · view on lemmy.world

85 Comments

hagelslager@feddit.nl · 20 pts · 2y (2 replies)

RBR sending Perez out again is some passive-aggressiveness at this point.

evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 2y (1 reply)

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WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y

Maybe this will get lawson a seat somewhere, with someone getting promoted from Alpha Tauri? I really hope so, lawson really deserves a seat.

hagelslager@feddit.nl · 17 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I wonder if we can vote for Perez as the clown of the day.

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Who else would be up for that? I can't think of anyone else who'd get remotely close.

frank@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2y

Logan? I think checo takes the crown today for sure

prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y (4 replies)

What is even goin on with Perez today. Clumsy start resulting in early pit stop to drop to back of grid. Picking more penalties on the way. Retired. And now comes back and retires again after one lap.

June@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y

Yea, what an absolutely shocking clusterfuck.

Checo is quick, and when he’s on he’s on, but these lows are not the right look.

Microw@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y

Reminds me of Bottas' last phase at Merc, where he also went from leading the championship at the start of the year to appearing absolutely unfit for F1 at the end.

Dmian@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y

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koolkiwi@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y

It's his Mexican blood!

lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Wew what's Perez up to today. Gonna pick up penalties like Infinity Stones.

genuineparts@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Dude feels the pressure so much that he's driving himself out of a RB seat.

Microw@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y

Ah, the Bottas special

hagelslager@feddit.nl · 14 pts · 2y

Lando: "It's the Max podcast"
Max: "I don''t even like podcasts!"

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 2y (2 replies)

The honeymoon at Aston is over

Dmian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y

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mattym00cow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Brutal. Alonso is gonna explode soon.

espentan@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

Norris on Perez taking Logan out: "Iiiiinteresting"

espentan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y (5 replies)

I heard this would be a 2-stopper; Logan getting them out of the way early so he can spend the remaining laps hunting down Max. /s

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

He needs to be banned just for being a reincarnated Latifi

mattym00cow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

The destructors champion.

fisco@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y

🤣

Dmian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

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SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

This was the problem with bringing F1 to the US. Americans drive like it's fucking NASCAR. Imagine if that seat had Lawson in it instead.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Carlos is radio gold

Dmian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

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Thade780@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y (5 replies)

What the hell? How can be unretiring a car to serve a penalty, then retire it again be in the rules?

Microw@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y

Because there is no definition of "retiring" in the rulebook. Which should have been on their radar years ago, you see it regularly how cars pull into the pits and the official tracking keeps showing them as "in the race" and not "retired".

Sentau@lemmy.one · 3 pts · 2y

They did a pitstop and served the 5 seconds and then retired the car. This is why he was out there for 2 laps

alteredEnvoy@feddit.ch · 3 pts · 2y

If it is not banned...

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

I just did a cursory search on the FIA's 2023 Sporting Regulations, and I couldn't find anything about the procedures through which drivers serve penalties, so...

hagelslager@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 2y

It was 25 the last time they counted

genuineparts@feddit.de · 9 pts · 2y

Fucking hell Perez. That's not how you keep your seat.

June@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y (2 replies)

It’s so bizarre not having both RBs on the podium at the race that they win WCC

espentan@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yeap, but Perez helped secure the WCC by taking out Logan /s

gerryflap@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 2y

Wait it was Magnussen that he took out right?

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Ngl....that's a high IQ move by Red Bull

genuineparts@feddit.de · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I kinda doubt it'll work out the way they want, the other teams definitely will have words. And if it works out that will be a change in regulations.

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

If it requires a change in regs, won't matter because the strategy will have worked when used.

Dmian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

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alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Lol Checo

Dmian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

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SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Agreed with Jolyon. That was brutal. Not sure I agree with the FIA.

lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

The just showed a clip of the actual infringement - into the pits, overtaking Alonso.

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Yeah I thought it was elsewhere on the track, but I caught that. Yeah...Pérez needs to just retire today and get ready for Qatar.

Dmian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (4 replies)

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genuineparts@feddit.de · 4 pts · 2y

Perez coming back in to serve his penalties? Or he could pick up some more on the way :P

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

Yup.

espentan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

He knows he'll be so dominant in the final few races that he couldn't be bothered to finish this one. /s

prashanthvsdvn@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

And DNF again.

TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Man what is Perez doing anymore

fiah@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

He wants to play bumper cars or something!

bufordt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y

He's been playing too much Wreckfest during the week.

lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Sargeant penalised for new car after Q1 crash https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.official-grid-who-starts-where-in-japan-as-sargeant-is-penalised-for-new-car.X4qn5ydpjjHBscTrUrMwn.html

the damage to his Williams was such that the team have had to build up what the stewards consider a new car for him. [...] it means the American rookie not only has to start from the pit lane, but also receives a 10-second time penalty.

But Will Buxton on pre-race stream said that Williams got penalized for starting work on his car too early?

EDIT: He did tweet this out: https://x.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1705774169374257291 (Nitter link) so maybe I misheard or something.

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

Either way, hopefully Sargeant's done in F1 after this race. He's basically the reincarnation of Nicolas Latifi.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y

What a move by Charles

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

Wow. More than a few DNFs today.

Edit: Williams out, plus Stroll, Pérez, Bottas.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Georgy got screwed

ApexHunter@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2y

He screwed himself with that terrible exit out of the chicane.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y

Max back with a rawwr

Dmian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (3 replies)

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SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y (2 replies)

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max@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Petition to put all of the races in Europe

And then call it the World Championship anyway!

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y

I mean, unironically it'd still be more of a world championship than anything in the US. Plus, Formula 1 has historically been an all-European sport. Nothing wrong with returning to that.

fisco@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y

A bit of a wheel banging start... SC already...

Dmian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

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Dmian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

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alteredEnvoy@feddit.ch · 3 pts · 2y

Perez is having a terrible day, beating a dead horse that is

lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

Quarter of the grid out. Damn.

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y

The return of the king

Dmian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

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ZooGuru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y (4 replies)

With the rear end struggles drivers were having around the last turn paired with high tire deg, I expect at least one safety car. Could be a fun watch.

frank@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yeah, and a two stopper, especially with the higher-than-normal temperature. Max will likely walk away with it but the rest of the podium is up for grabs. Hoping Oscar can stand on it!

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

With Max only having a single set of hards available, I wonder if he starts the race on hards, then goes to mediums to finish the race.

espentan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Didn't even have to wait for tire deg!

SatouKazuma@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

Inb4 we don't have a safety car because Sargeant annihilates the entire field

Dmian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

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Dmian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

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genuineparts@feddit.de · 2 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Perez +6 Laps? I don't think that's right... That was way more than 6 laps.