Nowhere is safe

People spend one-third of their lives asleep. What if employees could work during that time … in their dreams?

Prophetic, a venture-backed startup founded earlier this year, wants to help workers do just that. Using a headpiece the company calls the “Halo,” Prophetic says consumers can induce a lucid dream state, which occurs when the person having a dream is aware they are sleeping. The goal is to give people control over their dreams, so they can use that time productively. A CEO could practice for an upcoming board meeting, an athlete could run through plays, a web designer could create new templates—“the limiting factor is your imagination,” founder and CEO Eric Wollberg told Fortune.

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Edit: someone else beat me to it, I cede to you my bruh

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Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 43 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Yeah, fuck that, I'm flying around doing crazy shit in dreams I control. Unless I get paid hourly.

cerement@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 2y

“Yeah boss … I came up with this really cool solution while I was dreaming but I couldn’t remember it when I woke up so I’m gonna need to get some more sleep hours in to try to find it again.”

EatYouWell@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y (5 replies)

And you really don't have that level of control over your dreams while lucid dreaming.

Nepenthe@kbin.social · 12 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Almost never had the pleasure, but I believe one of the main tipoffs that you're dreaming is whatever text you're looking at will be illegible. And they are expecting coding to happen.

Though the more interesting screw up is there exists any CEO anywhere that honestly believes I'm not going to use this for porn.

800XL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

Ive heard that too, but I have no problem reading things in my dreams. And I make a note about that in my dreams too. Lol.

creditCrazy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

One one hand this tech would be fun to play with on your own. But on the other having to work day and night is very dystopian. Come to think of it do any of these corpos ever think that humans are still needed in capitalism. Like if you forced everyone to have the work ethic they desire humans would probably not socialize or reproduce. A break free work world would bring humanity to extinction in the most depressing way possible. Edit: also if everyone is spending all their time working then who would be the customers. Who is going to buy the things these corpos want to sell.

Nepenthe@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y

do any of these corpos ever think

No.

ShunkW@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

I've had a small number of lucid experiences and one time I was able to literally do whatever I wanted. Including flight and teleportation. I woke up after what felt like a few minutes though, which was a bummer.

iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Who needs to work 10 hours a day when you can work 24? Company owners are going to be so turned on by these news.

iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y

Also I have to say, I love how the limiting factor is our imagination but all they could come up with is about working more.

set_secret@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2y

It's made by the same person as neuralink. It will never be commercialised.

Smoogs@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2y (3 replies)

I just solved a coding problem this morning that I couldn’t last night because I RESTED MY BRAIN. I’m not making this up. This just happened.

AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I took a week off for Thanksgiving and came back to understand Dynamo DB single table patterns I was stuck on before leaving. Sleep learning is real!

Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Okay, but Dynamo DB is also pure baloney. Who thought a single table to include every type of entity was a good design? I'm frustrated because it works so well, but boy do I hate using it

AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

I disagree, it's quite performant and cost effective. I work for a very large software company and it scales to our needs very well. However, it is emphatically not the solution to everything nor is it a replacement for all traditional RDBMS use cases. It also takes a quite different mindset when thinking about your data than when using SQL.

IMO what it does really well is handle being a persistent data store for well-formed REST API endpoints. When you understand your access patterns and implement your GSIs correctly, a RDBMS can't match the performance even with well tuned queries. Dynamo excels at giving you a record set when you know exactly which set of records you want and it's based on one or two very simple conditions.

Where it falls behind is for data warehousing and reporting use cases. Dynamo is comparatively slow and inefficient when it comes to asking complex questions about the data. RDBMS systems are built for that use case and as such have extensive tools to optimize whatever wild queries you want to throw at it.

If you're interested in learning about single table design, which is not good for all cases, check out this video. I've watched it quite a few times and it's been the biggest help in wrapping my head around how to do the data modeling for it. https://youtu.be/KYy8X8t4MB8

Ok my steam deck finally finished updating. Time to go. 😁

Luci@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 2y (11 replies)

If I can work while I sleep and then not go to my day job.......

Sanyanov@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y (10 replies)

No you'd rather be slowly forced into working both

Luci@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 2y

Nah, I'd rather die thanks.

HubertManne@kbin.social · 5 pts · 2y (5 replies)

thats basically what happened with dual incomes.

Sanyanov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Exactly my point. When options for working more appear, there is more room for pressuring people economically, and they all end up working more.

HubertManne@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Its another reason I would rather be older than younger. My janitor dad owned what I would call a castle (it was beat up but huge. something like the begining of caddy shack where the main character lived) and my mom could devote 40 hours to a combination of housework and errands and managing the kids.

Sanyanov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I'm afraid that if the things keep going as projected (and such technologies will help), our kids would be super envy of us having a mortgage-funded place of our own to begin with.

HubertManne@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I also see that. as much as I would love to have been born earlier I clearly see being born later is worse and worse. In my parents time part of the "dream" was to own a home free and clear. I decade or so back I realized young folks did not even understand that. The dream was warped to be to just have a mortgage backed place at all. It feels like now its the eternal mortgage that doesn't do anything more but protect against sudden rent spikes. I foresee the dream becoming just renting a place of your own without roommates.

Sanyanov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

The latter is already happening in many regions. Some people even try to look positively on it, but it's clearly an "own nothing and be happy" mentality

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

not if you unionize

Sanyanov@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

True.

But while unions are incredibly important, their achievement can be quickly reversed the moment they lose the grip.

Better not even start with technologies that can easily be turned against us.

archomrade@midwest.social · 23 pts · 2y

Anyone who does this when they're stressed out knows how awful it is to be stuck thinking about a work problem over and over again and never feeling truly rested.

Often I do not wake up having solved the problem, I simply wake up feeling like the problem is hopeless because I've been obsessing over it instead of resting and never solving it

peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Employers: "Software Engineers are too expensive."

Also employers: "Why is our stuff not working?"

AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

"Designers are too expensive."

"Why are we late and over budget, and it still barely works?"

DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 2y

Getting beefbrain so my boss makes a couple extra bucks.

Karlos_Cantana@kbin.social · 18 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Great, now I'll get sexual harassment charges even when I'm sleeping.

IndiBrony@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y

The amount of people I've had sex with in my sleep... I'd end up with several life sentences I think.

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I'm not sleeping in. It's OT.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 2y

Expending the whole bed room.

RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y

I swear, if I have to start doing work in my sleep, I'm gonna commit a genocide.

EatYouWell@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

Those fuckers are trying to make the Matrix a reality.

21racecar12@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

This is both draconian and absolutely retarded. Reeks of a venture capitalist who doesn’t know anything about basic biology, psychology, or technology. The lucid dreaming state is not one of intense cognitive performance and reasoning, and even if you were able to do that heavy of a workload while “asleep”, your brain wouldn’t actually be getting any sleep. When you “wake up” you would be absolutely mentally exhausted and have to go back to actual sleep.

Vladkar@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that sleep mask. What dreams of chronic and sustained productivity?

N0body@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 2y

Jokes on you, corpo. I'll sing the Song of Cthulhu and bring his day of madness ever closer.

plz1@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y

That's some LinkedIn lunacy, for sure. Hard pass.

mojo@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 2y (1 reply)

That sounds literally impossible

skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y

Yeah, I can lucid dream, but it's really difficult to make text look coherent. Even if I could visualize code, it's damn near impossible to retain the details after you wake up.

fsxylo@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y

Relax guys, it's just another scam start up to steal money from dumbass investors. It'll never reach a prototype.

spittingimage@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y

Even your dreams are now corporate IP.

ShortFuse@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y (2 replies)

I already code in my sleep. I wake up sometimes and have code concepts ready to go. It's kinda wild.

PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y

There's nothing like solving a coding problem in your sleep.

Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

I've literally woken up and rushed to the computer because I came up with an answer to a problem I had while sleeping lol

gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y

And here I've been spending just 2/3 of my life in productive wage earning hours like a moron

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 2y

I can give a 1 better. Ive developed a technique to write code while drunk.

ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y

In a world with a solid support structure like universal basic income, where people would never be forced to sleepwork to survive, this could be quite cool. There could be some amazing artist/engineer collabs done.

feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y

smells like stinky stinky bullshit

readyno@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

What you mean to say is you are developing a nervegear and we are closer to SAO than ever

CCF_100@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y

SAO, but instead of playing in an RPG, it's just a virtual desk job

solidsnake2085@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I always wanted an Inception dream machine. What if you taught yourself a skill while in there and brought it out to the real world? I hope that one day those machines exist.

Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y

i mean to some degree that's specifically the point of dreaming, your brain runs simulations of various stuff to train and double check things.

Like if you've just taken a boat license you'll probably be dreaming about piloting a boat for a while, because the brain wants to make sure that this apparently important task is done right.

IvyisAngy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

The thing is, this COULD be great, people with physical impairments or just those who'd prefer to work this way could enjoy thier day without the stress of work.

The problem is that it will 100% be used to extend your existing working hours, so that not a moment goes by your not generating revenue.

Sigh...

altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1y

How do I clock in? But I can't clock out?

Napain@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 2y (2 replies)

why would an engineer write code

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

it may be faster to make your own tool than put in a ticket to your global support team and then the 20 meetings on documentation and validation asssuming they go it this year. Just for something you could have made yourself in a week. Request like add a pull down to the ordering form takes like a year and that's after 5 calls and a presentation on how this will improve global sales. So much frustrating.

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y

Hey you just described shadow it