Yeah, I've already seen how it's affected SDEs first hand (since I am unfortunately in the same industry). They generally don't know how to maintain or create code anymore. Management told them to not use their brain and instead use the slop generator, and now that skill has atrophied.
A silver lining is that some preliminary research shows that after a few weeks to months of not relying on the slop generators, skills can come back with a little effort. I hope the bubble pops and everyone is forced to relearn the skills they lost.
Also, to your point, the article claims models are getting better. A better way to frame this is that models are getting more expensive. LLM giants, at least the US-based ones, have been giving the appearance of improving models by using more resources, which one of the primary reasons they had to move to a pay-per-token system for the latest models. They aren't all that much better for how expensive they are to operate and use.
Other US companies are actually competing with them for market share now, too. It certainly isn't helping Tesla sell.
Also, Teslas are starting to get the reputation they deserve: overpriced shitbox vehicles that have horrible build quality because Musk has stripped anything good out of them for profit.
Along with what others have said about not telling anyone, I tend to do my hobby projects in a sort of cycle. My brain is probably broken, but I struggle to focus on just one for a super long time and that's the way I deal with it. For a week or two, I'll focus on one project before moving on to the next unfinished project. For things that aren't urgent, this works well. For urgent projects.. well, not so much.
I'm very aware that you don't consider it an ad, but it's an ad in my eyes. It's literally a call to action to recruit people to improve their paid application in order to extract money from users in the future.
I do consider it an ad to recruit people to do beta testing for a paid product. I don't want to see ads in my feed. If I wanted that, I'd go to reddit. Maybe they should post there instead, where ads are overwhelming and users don't give a shit about being advertised to constantly.
Yes, but all of your comments seem to miss the fact that this post is talking about paid software. Which is what the OP you're talking about and defending did. You also said "they aren't charging you", which might be true for now, but they will make money off of beta tester's free labor.
The question is if brand new accounts should be able to shill their PAID closed source products without otherwise contributing to the community. They should not be able to do so.
They did think about that, apparently you did not. Did you not see that they specifically said "brand new" accounts? Or are you talking about the most recent OP that posted an ad to beta test closed source software?
I'm going to use the public wifi at defcon with no VPN, wish me luck!
Agreed, fuck em both. Unfortunately, though, the oligarchs aren't going to be the ones hurting from this.
Yeah, I've already seen how it's affected SDEs first hand (since I am unfortunately in the same industry). They generally don't know how to maintain or create code anymore. Management told them to not use their brain and instead use the slop generator, and now that skill has atrophied.
A silver lining is that some preliminary research shows that after a few weeks to months of not relying on the slop generators, skills can come back with a little effort. I hope the bubble pops and everyone is forced to relearn the skills they lost.
Also, to your point, the article claims models are getting better. A better way to frame this is that models are getting more expensive. LLM giants, at least the US-based ones, have been giving the appearance of improving models by using more resources, which one of the primary reasons they had to move to a pay-per-token system for the latest models. They aren't all that much better for how expensive they are to operate and use.
Or, SpaceX dropping below IPO price woke up the braindead morons to reality and they're now selling off anything attached to Musk.
Other US companies are actually competing with them for market share now, too. It certainly isn't helping Tesla sell.
Also, Teslas are starting to get the reputation they deserve: overpriced shitbox vehicles that have horrible build quality because Musk has stripped anything good out of them for profit.
Along with what others have said about not telling anyone, I tend to do my hobby projects in a sort of cycle. My brain is probably broken, but I struggle to focus on just one for a super long time and that's the way I deal with it. For a week or two, I'll focus on one project before moving on to the next unfinished project. For things that aren't urgent, this works well. For urgent projects.. well, not so much.
Woo, fuck yeah, made the list!
Mine is named "Corpo spam and slop"
I don't smoke with people who like ads shoved down their throats. It's a personal thing.
Did I say you did so on this account?
Your long reply and bullshit about "bellyaching" isn't helping me think otherwise.
I'm very aware that you don't consider it an ad, but it's an ad in my eyes. It's literally a call to action to recruit people to improve their paid application in order to extract money from users in the future.
The question isn't "did OP act in good faith".
I do consider it an ad to recruit people to do beta testing for a paid product. I don't want to see ads in my feed. If I wanted that, I'd go to reddit. Maybe they should post there instead, where ads are overwhelming and users don't give a shit about being advertised to constantly.
Every comment you make makes me more and more convinced that you've created a throwaway account to advertise your own paid products here.
I'm aware, and don't think that ads to provide free labor for a paid product belong here. That's been my entire argument the entire time.
Yes, but all of your comments seem to miss the fact that this post is talking about paid software. Which is what the OP you're talking about and defending did. You also said "they aren't charging you", which might be true for now, but they will make money off of beta tester's free labor.
Lmao, the OP you're talking about literally said that "It's a paid closed source app". Why are you not mentioning that little tidbid?
That's not the question that was asked.
The question is if brand new accounts should be able to shill their PAID closed source products without otherwise contributing to the community. They should not be able to do so.
This OP's contribution to the community was trying to extract free labor for a soon to be paid product.
They did think about that, apparently you did not. Did you not see that they specifically said "brand new" accounts? Or are you talking about the most recent OP that posted an ad to beta test closed source software?