ApollosArrow

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What stark tech does he really have? I don’t think anything was handed to him. It looks like he put it together himself. I may have missed some logos if that’s the case. His shooters are bulky All his nano stuff is gone and his suit is not cgi.

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler As for why I found it refreshing. It’s because it wasn’t a Spider-Man villain, as he’s gone through most of his popular ones. This was not a story that could be told under Toby or Andrew. Connecting Spider-Man’s mutations with the upcoming Mutant stories is not something I expected, nor him being responsible for part of the tragedies that are going to befall them in the future. I don’t know much about Jean Grey’s childhood, but this age hasn’t really been focus on, we got a little bit of it during the more recent X-Men movies. I liked the parallels of them losing someone and having mutant like powers.

I personally enjoy seeing the Marvel characters, because it makes New York feel like a lived in city, again something that could not be done during the previous eras. It gives him people to act with in a scene. I think he paired very well with Punisher and I don’t think he overshadowed him. I would love to see him with some of the Defenders. Jean wasn’t revealed until the end of the movie, so I’m not really sure how she could have overshadowed him.

And while I agree about the Hulk, I’m not sure what they can really do until they get the full rights back. He’s going to keep be a smashy smashy side character. :::

To add onto Mimicjar. Jean was inside Peter and I assume she got to feel like what it means to be loved by a mother and be someone with powers. Peter did not let himself get consumed even though everything pointed to him doing so. Frank was an example of what Peter could turn into, a cautionary tale. She was in both of their heads and chose Peter’s path.

I don’t really see how that’s possible for big studios at this point. In order to get costs down they would need to go into production with locked scripts and workflows. Big studios need to bring in money very quickly to stay afloat which creates a disastrous feedback loop. They would honestly need to not make money for about 3yrs while they slowed down and adjusted the foundation, which would bankrupt them. It’s already a runway train that can’t be stopped.

Indie/small movies have a better chance, because there is no pressure on them. If it fails it’s usually on the smaller few who foot the bill for the movie.

They can, but the roles of Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus were done so well that they likely won’t redo those. By the same token I doubt they will do the others. The reason they didn’t include venom is because they do want to redo that character. I believe Tom Hardy was going to be in earlier versions of No Way Home, but they reduced it to a post credit to get the symbiote in at least.

He’s running out of big Villains, which is the problem. We’ve already seen like 13. The fact that he even has 13 is crazy. The assumption is Mr Negative, Hammerhead, or Tombstone will be the villain of this new movie

Most of Toby and Andrew’s villains were used last movie, so the options left are

5 - Symbiotes

  • Venom (reintroduced)
  • Carnage (reintroduced)

6 - Sinister Six

    • Daredevil
  • kingpin (if he ever unexiles himself)

—— 7 - New Saga start.

  • Hob Goblin (Which would be the 4th time a goblin role is done)
  • Prowler

8.Horror - could switch up themes

    • Blade
  • Kraven (reintroduced)
  • Morbius (reintroduced)
  • Chameleon (reintroduced)
  1. Clone Saga - Could be a way to keep Tom Holland around as Scarlet Spider
    • Miles Morales
  • Jackal
  • Doppelgänger

I can see it being “The age of super heroes over, welcome to the age of mutants”. X-Men alone has enough characters to keep different themes of movies going for a decade.

As for Spider-Man I really hope they let Tom Holland age up and not rush into Miles. Peter still has a good two more movies after this that could still work. I hope his storyline ends in a Sinister Six Movie.