As I was thinking about how fun it would be to have a job where you solve puzzles in the world, it struct me that media never depicts archeology in a real light. My short search seemed to confirm my thoughts. Most ancient sites are not guarded by elaborate traps or secret riddles to get in. From what I’ve found there were some crossbows here and there. Some rare hidden rooms with a lot treasure, but again, no traps.
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slazer2au@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 222d
That we know of.
markz@suppo.fi · 55 pts · 222d
Yeah, maybe we should look into archeologists that never returned
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 52 pts · 222d
This is 100% survivorship bias
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 221d
Well the pyramids at Giza were said to be cursed. Turns out, it was just gross occupational safety violations, but the effect was largely the same. If you breathe a thousand year old pathogens, you’re going to get sick.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 222d
Eh, the terracotta emporer from China almost definitely has booby traps that are likely still functional after 2,000.
We don't know, because the absolutely insane amount of open mercury in the tomb would have filled it with toxic gases, although it's likely that wasn't the intent.
But yeah, most "ancient" tombs were pillaged centuries ago. What little happens now is entirely black market and people probably die all the time.
I know Kim Kardashian took a booty selfie with a sarcophagus at the MET Gala a couple years ago, and one of the illegal tomb raiders recognized it. And because he never got his cut, he snitched to local authorities. So it still happens, we just don't hear about the vast amount. Just the very careful government sanctioned ones.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 222d
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a modern day person that buried their fortune with them under puzzles and traps.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 222d
That's what shell companies are for. Legally burry who owns the assets
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 222d
Would that make lawyers modern day archeologists?
stephen01king@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 222d
More like financial investigators, or whatever their official title is supposed to be.
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 222d
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slazer2au@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 222d
No, forensic lawyers and accountants who unpick it would be the archaeologists.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 222d
Probably meant forensic accountants. Tracking the people that we are least know to have plundered these places.
The reason we don't have more mummies is that the aristocracy back in waiting w were literally eating them.
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 221d
We have a modern version of the deadly temple:
This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
Definitely not the kind of treasure people want to find later.
PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 221d
There was one! Look up Forrest Fenn - the podcast Cautionary Tales has a double feature about it (S6E44-45). True riddles, and treasure hunts, and some deaths despite no traps being set.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
I’ll have to take a look.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 221d
Tbf there's that one tv show about that one island in canada or something that had buried treasure and a bunch of traps but then it turned out the treasure had already been found and they think a freed slave found it when he bought the island back in the day or something like that.
Admittedly I've only seen one episode, a friend who watched it filled in the details on where it went lol.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 221d
That also reminds me of the Oak Island supposed treasure in that pit.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 222d
The ones with the traps succeeded in protecting their secrecy.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · 45 pts · 222d
For fun, here's a link to the 10,000-year clock, built by The Long Now Foundation. The level of modern engineering, and planning, that it takes to build a clock that will operate for 10,000 years is fascinating. When you stop to think about, say, the trope of a mechanism that will slide back a 20-ton rock door reliably after 2,000 years is quite ridiculous.
PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 221d
A large stone on a ramp, kept from rolling by a wedge, to be pushed out of position, by use of mechanical advantage through a lever, seems quite doable to me. You could even utilize a smaller initial stone to kick the wedge withholding a larger stone.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 221d
And then there are those secret doors where you pull a lever and the wall opens up on its own. What kind of mechanism would be reliable after all these years?
athatet@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 221d
Sticky piston.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 221d
Yeah, but that requires iron, redstone and slime.
Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 221d
Well the iron and slime I can get you, but the redstone I have struggled with for many years and I still do not possess any...
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 221d
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 222d
Be the change you wish to see in the world
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 222d
Step 1. Have money.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 222d
There are many extralegal ways to obtain money. I believe in you
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 9 pts · 222d
Coincidentally, those ways also make you someone who would booby trap their newly acquired property
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 221d
Step 2. Hide the money
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
Step 3. Think of riddles that can't be solved with a hammer.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 221d
Step 4. Build a massive underground structure with tunnels, caves, catacombs, lava, angry spiders and secret doors.
Greg@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 222d
Do you work for big-ancient-temples? It sounds like you're just setting me up so that I end up in a pit of snakes or buried in lava.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 222d
Close. I work for big-pit-snakes. Who do you think supplies the ancient temples?
ICastFist@programming.dev · 4 pts · 221d
You mean it isn't the folks at trap-o-mart?
Glytch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 221d
If you're serious about your big pit trap you need to be buying your snakes directly from suppliers. Trap-o-mart charges at least 50% more for the same snakes and the benefits of building a relationship with your supplier are too great to ignore.
474D@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 222d
If it's important enough for traps, it's important enough to be hidden. They could just be hidden well enough
Klear@quokk.au · 9 pts · 222d
The real treasure were the traps we found along the way.
Dremor@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 221d
There is one job that does what archeologist does in films: software engineers.
You have to decipher ancient languages, riddles, and have to avoid traps all the times.
Sure, you don't go into deep jungle, but you sometimes get to dive into the deep web to find traces of documentations to help resolve a specific case.
stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 221d
If your inline assembly is being rendered as ancient glyphs, please change your font.
Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 221d
relevant xkcd
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol · 1 pts · 215d
Two word horror story: Webdings mono
shudder
Dremor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 221d
Or check your encoding. Happened to me. 😅
Hubi@feddit.org · 8 pts · 222d
You're gonna have to explore meth houses for that.
fizzle@quokk.au · 7 pts · 222d
What do you mean "media"? As in movies?
What you're describing about "getting in" to places and "treasure" is a little old school. In the before times archaeology wasn't really a thing and "antiquarians" looted old temples and tombs and sites. Their objective was to take objects which had some value.
Archaeology's primary motivation is to learn about places, the time they were active, and the people that were active in them. Obviously finding some beautiful object or treasure is exciting, but it's so exceedingly rare that it's not really a consideration.
I quite like watching time team. They have a great youtube channel now but it was a BBS series for many years. I feel like this is probably about as real a depiction of "archaeology" as you're going to get. They brush dirt away with a tiny paint brush for days and get excited when they find a tiny shard of pottery because it confirms that people were active at the site in say, the 1300s instead of the 1600s as previously thought.
In the current era, archaeologists acknowledge that accessing ancient burials and similar sites is so destructive that there are instances where we know their probably is treasure and other wonders but decide to leave it. The most famous example is The Mausoleum of Qin Shi, protected by the Terracotta army. There are other similar examples.
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
+1 for Time Team. Such a cool show, taught me a ton. My inner monologue now slips into a Yorkshire accent when I think about flint knapping
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 222d
Movies, TV, comics, Video Games, books, etc. People in this thread have already named a few. But as you point out, archeology in reality is rarely what we see in mainstream entertainment.
Ah the Terracotta army was used in one of The Mummy movies.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
Exactly, treasure hunters go for the golden objects, and while archeologists absolutely want such things, they relate to what is valued, adornment styles, and often religion, but archeologists are often just as excited, if not moreso, to find the trash pit
northernlights@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 222d
Wait, Lara Croft is not real? I'm devastated.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 222d
I refuse to believe dinosaurs aren't alive in some tropical oasis surrounded by an elaborate and abandoned cave system with a functioning works, high up on the Peruvian mountains!
f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 221d
Lies. I saw that kid get carried off on a gurney, on Legends of the Hidden Temple.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 221d
They set up all those blowgun traps but forgot they didn't have the tech to actually make them blow just because a wooden lever was pulled.
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 220d
Wasn't there a pharaoh that had so much mercury on the site that anyone that tried to dig his grave would get mercury poisoning?
flerbshmerd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
I'm not sure about a pharaoh's tomb, but there were rivers of mercury in the tomb of the first Emperor of China; also automatic crossbow traps I believe. It's the tomb with the Terracotta Army. Extremely fascinating.
futura-sciences.com - This Tomb is a Deadly Trap: Archaeologists Still Refuse to Open It
labrujulaverde.com - Rivers and seas made of mercury inside the tomb of China’s first emperor
mr_might44@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 222d
This guy clearly never visited Genghis Khan's tomb.
TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 222d
Technically there have been ruins and tombs with traps and riddles. Take a look at some of the info about the Curse of Tutankhamun's Tomb alone, including stuff like an anthropologist named Field having his house burn down, then flood after its rebuiling (purportedly because he had accepted a mummified hand as a paperweight which came with a cursed bracelet attached).
Granted, there's no Myst or Tomb Raider-style tomb puzzles unless you count translations of ancient dialects used by the original architects/artisans/scribes/etc., but a lot of death has been associated with burial sites/tombs, whether or not you attribute them to curses or long-dormant mould being disturbed and breathed in...
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · -2 pts · 222d
The "Curse of Tutankhamun", are you for real 😂 that's the dumbest shit right up there with Nostradamus's propehcies and homeopathy.
You're aware that you live in reality? As in no Harry Potter wizardry reality?
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 221d
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 220d
There were sealed and fake passages, but I don’t think there were traps.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · -3 pts · 222d
What about your mom though?