The “editor wars” are predominantly fought by people who work in IT (system admins, developers, etc.), which requires using the terminal frequently or is often the only tool at their disposal.
Some folks also use specific editors because of their text editing capabilities. Vim’s modal editing is very intuitive and fast, while Emacs’ Org Mode feature set can be a sole reason to put up with Emacs.
::: spoiler Tangential
A case can be made that modern programming does not really require a terminal since IDEs meet its needs. But the debate becomes more subjective and less objective.
I work in IT, use emacs configured with vim’s modal editing, even though my employer provides expensive IDE licenses for me to use.
I shifted IDEs to Vim because the former were too slow to open some of the code. Later I shifted to Emacs, trading some of that speed for Org mode.
Now, I treat Emacs as the sole software to interact with the computer, as much as I can.
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With AI, this assumption is proving false day by day. Critical resources have been let go by my employer in the hope of matching their contributions with junior/fresh engineers + AI. I have heard similar stories from friends too.
However, I am yet to hear a real life instance of a company walking back and rehiring - something that I keep reading in news.
Finished Hotline Miami a few days ango and currently in the tail end of the sequel: Wrong Number. The first instalment is pretty much a masterpiece, if one is okay to overlook the copious amounts of violence.
Played it on the Vita, so the controls were a bit tricky at first, but lost track of time once I got a hang of it.
Have my sights set on Heart of Darkness next. I played the demo more than 2 decades ago on a Windows 98 PC. I recently became aware that it has been ported to Vita.
your game is not on your disk! Your game is downloaded after you insert your disk.
I have seen this being mentioned a few times. I wonder what those games are, or whether people are exaggerating for hyperbole.
I own physical copies of PS5 exclusives that I play without signing in to PSN. Most recently, I played the director’s cut of Ghost of Tsushima this way. I used to do the same on my PS4 too.
You are still arguing against a position I never took.
I never disputed why companies are pushing digital. I disputed the idea that losing physical media is not a loss for consumers. Rights like resale, lending, ownership independent of a single account, and preservation do not stop to matter because digital is more popular.
It’s a business.
That is an explanation for why companies make these decisions, not a defence of them. By that logic, any reduction in consumer rights would be acceptable so long as it increases profits. I don’t think that is a particularly compelling standard.
We are discussing two different questions: you are defending the business incentive, while I am discussing the consumer trade-offs. There is nothing more to add, so I will leave it at that.
You are arguing against points I did not make. Do not confuse consumer preference with consumer rights.
The fact that most people buy digitally does not magically eliminate the benefits of physical media: resale, lending, collecting, and not tying every purchase to a single account or storefront. That is especially relevant on consoles, where you don’t have the competitive marketplace that exists on PC. Comparing Steam to PlayStation as though they are equivalent ecosystems ignores the very thing being discussed.
You went from making weak arguments to inventing facts. “No one is sharing games” goes against the used games market as well as game lending. As earlier, your point about Gran Turismo is just an anecdote dressed up as a general principle.
And your last paragraph is a joke. If you have to speculate and invent my position instead of addressing it, that is a sign your rebuttal is weak, just like your original comment.
It is not really wise to compare Steam with the console ecosystem, especially when there exists several alternatives to obtain games on PC.
Physical discs matter more on consoles than on PCs, given that there is not a whole lot one can do if their account gets banned for the silliest of reasons, or if one wants to share a game.
Also, have you thought that you might be referring to two different sets of customers: one that is fine with digital purchases on Steam/PSN, and the other that strongly supports physical purchases?
Using a single example of GT is insufficient to make a broad statement like the one you made.
This should be a top-level comment so that others have a chance to educate themselves and form their opinions better.
There is lot to criticise about Modi like rising unemployment, systemic dismembering of journalism, whataboutism, and so much more!
But twisting the words of his speech (that is more than a decade old now) is just pathetic and immediately makes anyone pedalling that narrative foolish. It is even worse when a journalist does it, since fact checking is paramount.
I am tolerant of intolerance. But I am intolerant of intelorance.
Emacs with Vim’s modal editing.
A serious answer:
The “editor wars” are predominantly fought by people who work in IT (system admins, developers, etc.), which requires using the terminal frequently or is often the only tool at their disposal.
Some folks also use specific editors because of their text editing capabilities. Vim’s modal editing is very intuitive and fast, while Emacs’ Org Mode feature set can be a sole reason to put up with Emacs.
::: spoiler Tangential A case can be made that modern programming does not really require a terminal since IDEs meet its needs. But the debate becomes more subjective and less objective.
I work in IT, use emacs configured with vim’s modal editing, even though my employer provides expensive IDE licenses for me to use.
I shifted IDEs to Vim because the former were too slow to open some of the code. Later I shifted to Emacs, trading some of that speed for Org mode.
Now, I treat Emacs as the sole software to interact with the computer, as much as I can. :::
Thanks. This is one of the news articles I had in mind while writing my original comment.
No. They actually have an interview round where the candidate is given access to a coding agent and a problem to solve.
With AI, this assumption is proving false day by day. Critical resources have been let go by my employer in the hope of matching their contributions with junior/fresh engineers + AI. I have heard similar stories from friends too.
However, I am yet to hear a real life instance of a company walking back and rehiring - something that I keep reading in news.
So, fingering butts makes it a full circle.
Finished Hotline Miami a few days ango and currently in the tail end of the sequel: Wrong Number. The first instalment is pretty much a masterpiece, if one is okay to overlook the copious amounts of violence.
Played it on the Vita, so the controls were a bit tricky at first, but lost track of time once I got a hang of it.
Have my sights set on Heart of Darkness next. I played the demo more than 2 decades ago on a Windows 98 PC. I recently became aware that it has been ported to Vita.
I have seen this being mentioned a few times. I wonder what those games are, or whether people are exaggerating for hyperbole.
I own physical copies of PS5 exclusives that I play without signing in to PSN. Most recently, I played the director’s cut of Ghost of Tsushima this way. I used to do the same on my PS4 too.
Henceforth, you shall be known as the guy not from Yukon.
The grey is a substitute for transparency.
Here is how the image looks on clicking it:
You are still arguing against a position I never took.
I never disputed why companies are pushing digital. I disputed the idea that losing physical media is not a loss for consumers. Rights like resale, lending, ownership independent of a single account, and preservation do not stop to matter because digital is more popular.
That is an explanation for why companies make these decisions, not a defence of them. By that logic, any reduction in consumer rights would be acceptable so long as it increases profits. I don’t think that is a particularly compelling standard.
We are discussing two different questions: you are defending the business incentive, while I am discussing the consumer trade-offs. There is nothing more to add, so I will leave it at that.
You are arguing against points I did not make. Do not confuse consumer preference with consumer rights.
The fact that most people buy digitally does not magically eliminate the benefits of physical media: resale, lending, collecting, and not tying every purchase to a single account or storefront. That is especially relevant on consoles, where you don’t have the competitive marketplace that exists on PC. Comparing Steam to PlayStation as though they are equivalent ecosystems ignores the very thing being discussed.
You went from making weak arguments to inventing facts. “No one is sharing games” goes against the used games market as well as game lending. As earlier, your point about Gran Turismo is just an anecdote dressed up as a general principle.
And your last paragraph is a joke. If you have to speculate and invent my position instead of addressing it, that is a sign your rebuttal is weak, just like your original comment.
You seem to be hung on that one example and have made a whole argument supported by it.
One does own their games on disc.
I can still play using my physical copies after all these years, regardless of whether I am logged into PSN or if I am playing it on a PS4 or a PS5.
You indeed failed to see the issue.
It is not really wise to compare Steam with the console ecosystem, especially when there exists several alternatives to obtain games on PC.
Physical discs matter more on consoles than on PCs, given that there is not a whole lot one can do if their account gets banned for the silliest of reasons, or if one wants to share a game.
Also, have you thought that you might be referring to two different sets of customers: one that is fine with digital purchases on Steam/PSN, and the other that strongly supports physical purchases?
Using a single example of GT is insufficient to make a broad statement like the one you made.
Isn’t it trivial for scrapers to provide login credentials? Or is a login wall sufficient to keep the scrapers away?
This should be a top-level comment so that others have a chance to educate themselves and form their opinions better.
There is lot to criticise about Modi like rising unemployment, systemic dismembering of journalism, whataboutism, and so much more!
But twisting the words of his speech (that is more than a decade old now) is just pathetic and immediately makes anyone pedalling that narrative foolish. It is even worse when a journalist does it, since fact checking is paramount.
The limb between the fox’s two limbs does not look like a limb. :D