It's just kind of surprising that users on a decentralized platform would go out of their way to use an ad/user tracking platform rather than an RSS feed or something more privacy friendly.
Why have there been so many articles posted on Lemmy recently where people are linking to the MSN, Yahoo, or apparently AOL version instead of the original?
Also, a majority of Americans voted to introduce tariffs.
There was not a vote on tariffs, there was a vote on the president. Trump got more votes than Kamala Harris, but that does not mean most people wanted tariffs. Trump also ran on a campaign of "No new wars" and yet here we are.
The reason Sony received this money in the first place was because of errors made by the American government, making the tariffs illegal.
What errors? Trump making an executive order to put tariffs in place? That wasn't an error, it was completely intentional. It was just illegal.
Well, I suppose they could still do that without really hurting business. You have to admit that the money lost from people physically waiting outside the building would be pretty minimal
All news was behind a paywall at one point. If you did not pay for a newspaper, you did not get the news. No matter how important, the news was paywalled. We have the FDA for plain old recall announcements. If you want the news story behind the recall, a journalist has to research and write an article, which isn't free. It's also under attack by a certain orange man and his goons, so they need all the support they can get.
Lmao, they are quite literally saying it is the suffering peoples fault. Evil supervillains literally find and abuse any leverage they can get to make people work for them, depriving them of any other option. That's why they're supervillains to begin with.
Large sections in that doc just before that are on phone number identifiers, NSLs, and 5-eyes countries, the US goverment pushing signal in privacy spaces…
This has nothing to do with the claim Signal collects metadata.
If Signal stored a DB of messages sent and received, they would legally have to provide that for a court warrant. The fact they did not provide that to the courts proves they do not store that data.
Did you ignore the large section on NSLs?
No, those are the government requests I mentioned in the quoted section. I just didn't say "NSL". Their example with Lavabit was fundamentally different since Lavabit was in control of the TLS keys and was able to decrypt the content, but they refused. Signal is complying without giving anything to the government because they have no way of decrypting the messages, even if they wanted to.
actually open source software can’t say “just trust me” like signal can, we actually have to show code to prove it, and let people run that code in a private manner.
Open Source: Open source is the practice of publishing digital resources publicly alongside their source code or source files, enabling use, study, modification, and redistribution.
Here is there Server source code with GNU AGPLv3 license. I'd say that fits the definition of open source.
I recognize there isn't a way to confirm they are running the code they published. Even signal has recognized the server source code trust issue:
Of course, what if that’s not the source code that’s actually running? After all, we could surreptitiously modify the service to log users’ contact discovery requests. Even if we have no motive to do that, someone who hacks the Signal service could potentially modify the code so that it logs user contact discovery requests, or (although unlikely given present law) some government agency could show up and require us to change the service so that it logs contact discovery requests. More fundamentally for us, we simply don’t want people to have to trust us.
That's why the set it up to minimize the required trust. The client side code is fundamentally built to make the trust required in Signal to be very minimal. You can build the client app from the source code and confirm everything in it.
An endorsement means nothing, especially for centralized software based in a 5-eyes country.
Edward Snowden is mentioned several times, and quoted, on the 5-Eyes wikipedia as a whistleblower. If the worlds most famous 5-Eyes whistleblower endorses Signal as a way to hide from the 5-Eyes, that's a pretty damn good endorsement. I recognize that means nothing to you, and that's fair. I'm more so pointing out the humor.
I will concede that the US government could force Signal to start collecting metadata and we would have no way of knowing. I do think they would fight it, or move to another country, given they have threatened to withdraw services from other countries already. It's not a great comparison, since the Government was trying to get access to message contents rather than metadata, and Signal would only be stopping service and not change country of operations.
Regardless, Signal is convenient. We all know the balance between security and convenience, and Signal is a good middle ground. It's a single app users can download, and it's quick to setup, and they can use the same phone number/contacts they already have. They don't have to determine a server they want to create their account on, learn what federation is, etc. Signal is a good option, and I would 100% tell people to use Signal over Whatsapp, Telegram, RCS, and especially SMS.
If we wanted to discuss the problems with something like Matrix, it would also be very flawed. You shift the trust to the home server of your choosing not to keep the metadata (It's not realistic to ask a random person to start their own server). It has a much larger attack surface, between the different clients, servers, bridges, bots, extensions, etc. Even if Matrix itself is relatively secure, it only takes a single integration with a vulnerability to compromise their data. For example, they may bridge Matrix to Slack for specific use case, but if that bridge gets compromised then you could be vulnerable.
They wouldn't. They didn't have any peoblem continuing to sell. So why do they need a refund?
It's just kind of surprising that users on a decentralized platform would go out of their way to use an ad/user tracking platform rather than an RSS feed or something more privacy friendly.
Why have there been so many articles posted on Lemmy recently where people are linking to the MSN, Yahoo, or apparently AOL version instead of the original?
Original source, not through AOL: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-greenland-threats-europe-b3025688.html
Sony also accepted the tariffs by selling them at a higher price. Sony didn't have to keep selling in the US, no one forces them.
There was not a vote on tariffs, there was a vote on the president. Trump got more votes than Kamala Harris, but that does not mean most people wanted tariffs. Trump also ran on a campaign of "No new wars" and yet here we are.
What errors? Trump making an executive order to put tariffs in place? That wasn't an error, it was completely intentional. It was just illegal.
Why would someone do that on the internet? I thought this was a safe place Q.Q
They're saying it's absurd to try to stop anyone from using a public bench
Most people can do a pickup order now anyway. So of you truly want the most value for the least labor, you should only do pickup orders
They're more of a goal for the wealthy and elected officials
I couldn't imagine having a Reddit account... The horrors
MTG played the wrong cards (or right cards, really) and won't be nearly as relevant in the news
Well, I suppose they could still do that without really hurting business. You have to admit that the money lost from people physically waiting outside the building would be pretty minimal
Idk why you said nah, because we are saying the same thing. The headlines would be on display, just like they are now
All news was behind a paywall at one point. If you did not pay for a newspaper, you did not get the news. No matter how important, the news was paywalled. We have the FDA for plain old recall announcements. If you want the news story behind the recall, a journalist has to research and write an article, which isn't free. It's also under attack by a certain orange man and his goons, so they need all the support they can get.
He asked for a lawyer several times
Lmao, they are quite literally saying it is the suffering peoples fault. Evil supervillains literally find and abuse any leverage they can get to make people work for them, depriving them of any other option. That's why they're supervillains to begin with.
Downloading is illegal.
Per the vault warden release notes:
With the vulnerabilities being patched these days, it seems ill asvised to disable automatic updates for something as critical as a password manager.
Two things:
If Signal stored a DB of messages sent and received, they would legally have to provide that for a court warrant. The fact they did not provide that to the courts proves they do not store that data.
No, those are the government requests I mentioned in the quoted section. I just didn't say "NSL". Their example with Lavabit was fundamentally different since Lavabit was in control of the TLS keys and was able to decrypt the content, but they refused. Signal is complying without giving anything to the government because they have no way of decrypting the messages, even if they wanted to.
Open Source: Open source is the practice of publishing digital resources publicly alongside their source code or source files, enabling use, study, modification, and redistribution.
Here is there Server source code with GNU AGPLv3 license. I'd say that fits the definition of open source.
I recognize there isn't a way to confirm they are running the code they published. Even signal has recognized the server source code trust issue:
https://signal.org/blog/private-contact-discovery/
That's why the set it up to minimize the required trust. The client side code is fundamentally built to make the trust required in Signal to be very minimal. You can build the client app from the source code and confirm everything in it.
Edward Snowden is mentioned several times, and quoted, on the 5-Eyes wikipedia as a whistleblower. If the worlds most famous 5-Eyes whistleblower endorses Signal as a way to hide from the 5-Eyes, that's a pretty damn good endorsement. I recognize that means nothing to you, and that's fair. I'm more so pointing out the humor.
I will concede that the US government could force Signal to start collecting metadata and we would have no way of knowing. I do think they would fight it, or move to another country, given they have threatened to withdraw services from other countries already. It's not a great comparison, since the Government was trying to get access to message contents rather than metadata, and Signal would only be stopping service and not change country of operations.
Regardless, Signal is convenient. We all know the balance between security and convenience, and Signal is a good middle ground. It's a single app users can download, and it's quick to setup, and they can use the same phone number/contacts they already have. They don't have to determine a server they want to create their account on, learn what federation is, etc. Signal is a good option, and I would 100% tell people to use Signal over Whatsapp, Telegram, RCS, and especially SMS.
If we wanted to discuss the problems with something like Matrix, it would also be very flawed. You shift the trust to the home server of your choosing not to keep the metadata (It's not realistic to ask a random person to start their own server). It has a much larger attack surface, between the different clients, servers, bridges, bots, extensions, etc. Even if Matrix itself is relatively secure, it only takes a single integration with a vulnerability to compromise their data. For example, they may bridge Matrix to Slack for specific use case, but if that bridge gets compromised then you could be vulnerable.