At least Ubuntu are kind enough to offer a faceplant every 6 months like clockwork, to help get accustomed to it. ;3
As much as I have a side fetish for the likes of CRUX, KISS/Carbs [and suckless'ness, like sta.li, etc], out beyond my love of the likes of VoidLinux, Arch/Artix/etc, for their hands-on simplicity that keeps one in reach of manually installing software and building packages, but I really love gentoo's accoutrements for "building packages with your hands", not just marvelling at ebuild clarity, but also the likes of how it caters for patches and saved configs, and portage just carries on with it, as you want it, like a cool summer breeze... :) [/gentoo-fanboi mouth-froth. ... Started getting carried away again there].
I had just been listening to some NDExperiencer/spiritualist or something just before posting that. And she was on about the level of perspective from which we do choose everything [from the timeless spirit realm "before" we were born]. :/ Hardly all that helpful from down here. Bit of a tractionless over-reach.
Yeah, that is (or was) part of the gentoo fun. :3 Lots of that kind of fun around the python versioning. Figuring out what emerge's output means is sometimes 90% of the challenge, and other times if feels like that, but then it turns out to be only 10% of the challenge. But as for python versioning specifically, that may have very recently had a big uptick in getting slipstreamed through with fewer bumps in the road for users to deal with. Fingers crossed in hope, ~ remains to be seen through many future versions yet.
And there are official binhosts now, so it generally only compiles what you've changed the useflags for. Gentoo package management's as snappy as other distros now. Though still as involved as ever for configuring the system how you want (albeit with few more ways to make it bother you a little less often now).
Hrmm... that gets me pondering about cron'ing up a cascade of strata fetching (and whatever configuration copying required if any), such that there'd always be fallback... then, conceivably, could have "auto-updates and no problems ever", and not even need worry about having adequate detection of problems to know when safe to proceed, as it would all just work, with something that just works still present, as bedrock strata. ... May seem a mite heavy handed, and very wasteful for hd space though. ... And no guarantees all that complexity on the back end (to confer simplicity on the front end) will stay "just work"ing, and not need problems mended. [edit... oh, and almost seems inevitable that some mirror layout change would break fetches too... so I guess it's not so near to full proof.]
<insert the deadpan stare, from every anarcho socialist whatever whoever who had ever critiqued this uneconomic paradigm, that sternly says in its glare "told you so">
Sounds like something a middle-man interloper would say to insidiously manipulate you into obedience [to their tricking you] and out of questioning [what other dodgy stuff they're up to].
"Brahma has no grandchild" sprang to mind just before I click Post.
This is true. (always had installer, problems from haste & not reading).
It's like I was fine reading to do the installation, but it was like then I was done reading, for the ongoing management. This does indeed make the pebkac errors inevitable sooner. ... :/ I think, I see, why I read in gentoo, but didnt bother so much in arch... it's not just the colours... it's the pace. [Too easy to succumb to how, once past the installation, under use] Arch gets you accustomed to "now!" (/impatience). At least compared to old pre-binhost gentoo on older hardware.
Oh, and...
One of the harder and more involved processes and problems to solve was updating 6 years old abandoned install, took a few hours, because arch archive is pretty slow sometimes.
Restoring old gentoos to new is one of my fave geeky (~ and typically pointless) projects to undertake. ... Not sure I've done one as old as 6 years yet... but I do have one that's something like 16 years old. LOL. ... When I amass the spoons for such an undertaking, I may attempt.
... Though, in hindsight, maybe some of the determinations of "pebkac error" may have been a bit gaslighty darvo to hide bugs anywhere in the stack including up to ux. "you didn't read the , so it's your fault" type of events. ... reminds of the post-it note that's there to save the world, then eventually it gets ignored, then eventually falls away, gets crumpled, dumped, forgotten...
some suggestions for your consideration in order of empowerment and learning curve first,
AWK
ffmpeg (~ & imagemagick ?)
bash, zsh, or fish
kew (it's just a really simple nice tui music player, no fuss). (... "Am I the only fun one in Digit's list here?" -- kew)
n_n
Some other things that sprang to mind, (generally tending to more gui things, some distro/packagemenent things)... audacity/tenacity, fontforge, gimp, gentoo and portage, bedrocklinux and brl, peertube self hosting, forgefed self hosting, suckless.org's tools, CRUX or KISS/Carbs, just playing around in stellarium, playing around in pioneer space sim, learning how to evade humanity's detection as an ai in the game called singularity, ;3
Oh... Here's an idea for you... Learn a text editor.
Think it's not fun?
Depends on which text editor you pick, and how much the fun suits you. ... Emacs has so many things (including games, like tetris and doctor). Even neovim has some extra things (~ opencode runs on neovim... tho it's not the same, lol). Or maybe you want something simpler, like nano, mcedit, or fin (I wrote fin, don't use it, it's scruffy... and only able to do that from learning some of the things mentioned, and more).
Yay for learning. Yay for asking for what other fun things to learn. Good post. Good question. ... Sorry my answers were not better. Heh. Caught off guard, answered just what first sprang to mind. n_n Doubtless many other more fun things exist.
I'd say, "inconclusive. it cuts off...", but, seems reasonable, at least plausible, given the faceplant.
... I might try that hence, should I return to something Arch based. :D
At least Ubuntu are kind enough to offer a faceplant every 6 months like clockwork, to help get accustomed to it. ;3
As much as I have a side fetish for the likes of CRUX, KISS/Carbs [and suckless'ness, like sta.li, etc], out beyond my love of the likes of VoidLinux, Arch/Artix/etc, for their hands-on simplicity that keeps one in reach of manually installing software and building packages, but I really love gentoo's accoutrements for "building packages with your hands", not just marvelling at ebuild clarity, but also the likes of how it caters for patches and saved configs, and portage just carries on with it, as you want it, like a cool summer breeze... :) [/gentoo-fanboi mouth-froth. ... Started getting carried away again there].
Facebook user's would get what that is in the OP?
Huh.
It must have changed from when I would still hang around facebook users.
Doesn't it normally do the opposite for most people?
Yep, eager to upgrade, when it's not stuffed down your throat when you don't want.
Could be telling us all something important about freedom... ;D
That sounds about typical for what I imagined.
Thanks for the reply,
right in the middle of my imagined bell curve of answers.
I had just been listening to some NDExperiencer/spiritualist or something just before posting that. And she was on about the level of perspective from which we do choose everything [from the timeless spirit realm "before" we were born]. :/ Hardly all that helpful from down here. Bit of a tractionless over-reach.
Yeah, that is (or was) part of the gentoo fun. :3 Lots of that kind of fun around the python versioning. Figuring out what emerge's output means is sometimes 90% of the challenge, and other times if feels like that, but then it turns out to be only 10% of the challenge. But as for python versioning specifically, that may have very recently had a big uptick in getting slipstreamed through with fewer bumps in the road for users to deal with. Fingers crossed in hope, ~ remains to be seen through many future versions yet.
And there are official binhosts now, so it generally only compiles what you've changed the useflags for. Gentoo package management's as snappy as other distros now. Though still as involved as ever for configuring the system how you want (albeit with few more ways to make it bother you a little less often now).
yay -Syu, it sure is.
Or was. I stopped using artix when the AUR troubles upticked.
Hrmm... that gets me pondering about cron'ing up a cascade of strata fetching (and whatever configuration copying required if any), such that there'd always be fallback... then, conceivably, could have "auto-updates and no problems ever", and not even need worry about having adequate detection of problems to know when safe to proceed, as it would all just work, with something that just works still present, as bedrock strata. ... May seem a mite heavy handed, and very wasteful for hd space though. ... And no guarantees all that complexity on the back end (to confer simplicity on the front end) will stay "just work"ing, and not need problems mended. [edit... oh, and almost seems inevitable that some mirror layout change would break fetches too... so I guess it's not so near to full proof.]
<insert the deadpan stare, from every anarcho socialist whatever whoever who had ever critiqued this uneconomic paradigm, that sternly says in its glare "told you so">
Because they did the decent thing and departed ...?
*shrug*
Mhmm. These puppets are just ordinary people.
Ordinary.
nah.
Ordinance.
An authoritative command or order.
A custom or practice established by long usage.
A Christian rite, especially the Eucharist.
meh, closer.
Ordnance
Materiel in military logistics, including weapons, ammunition, vehicles, and maintenance tools and equipment
Artillery
Artillery shells
Aircraft ordnance, weapons carried by and used by an aircraft
That's what I hear when I hear ordinary these days.
Normalised cannon fodder.
"Guns don't kill people. People do." say some. Quibbling about whether it's the gun or the ammo aside, where are these people deploying this ordnance?
Sounds like something a middle-man interloper would say to insidiously manipulate you into obedience [to their tricking you] and out of questioning [what other dodgy stuff they're up to].
"Brahma has no grandchild" sprang to mind just before I click Post.
This is true. (always had installer, problems from haste & not reading).
It's like I was fine reading to do the installation, but it was like then I was done reading, for the ongoing management. This does indeed make the pebkac errors inevitable sooner. ... :/ I think, I see, why I read in gentoo, but didnt bother so much in arch... it's not just the colours... it's the pace. [Too easy to succumb to how, once past the installation, under use] Arch gets you accustomed to "now!" (/impatience). At least compared to old pre-binhost gentoo on older hardware.
Oh, and...
Restoring old gentoos to new is one of my fave geeky (~ and typically pointless) projects to undertake. ... Not sure I've done one as old as 6 years yet... but I do have one that's something like 16 years old. LOL. ... When I amass the spoons for such an undertaking, I may attempt.
I hit upon a lot of pebkac errors.
... Though, in hindsight, maybe some of the determinations of "pebkac error" may have been a bit gaslighty darvo to hide bugs anywhere in the stack including up to ux. "you didn't read the , so it's your fault" type of events. ... reminds of the post-it note that's there to save the world, then eventually it gets ignored, then eventually falls away, gets crumpled, dumped, forgotten...
Or Exherbo, for even more of that kind of fun.
Oh yes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk3A41U0iO4 (keep watching. Is relevant.) [... and oddly relevant to my earlier suggestion list that also included emacs]
Reminds, there's mypaint too.
Yeah. Krita, mypaint, I neglect, living 99% of the time in gimp.
some suggestions for your consideration in order of empowerment and learning curve first,
n_n
Some other things that sprang to mind, (generally tending to more gui things, some distro/packagemenent things)... audacity/tenacity, fontforge, gimp, gentoo and portage, bedrocklinux and brl, peertube self hosting, forgefed self hosting, suckless.org's tools, CRUX or KISS/Carbs, just playing around in stellarium, playing around in pioneer space sim, learning how to evade humanity's detection as an ai in the game called singularity, ;3
Oh... Here's an idea for you... Learn a text editor.
Think it's not fun?
Depends on which text editor you pick, and how much the fun suits you. ... Emacs has so many things (including games, like tetris and doctor). Even neovim has some extra things (~ opencode runs on neovim... tho it's not the same, lol). Or maybe you want something simpler, like nano, mcedit, or fin (I wrote fin, don't use it, it's scruffy... and only able to do that from learning some of the things mentioned, and more).
Yay for learning. Yay for asking for what other fun things to learn. Good post. Good question. ... Sorry my answers were not better. Heh. Caught off guard, answered just what first sprang to mind. n_n Doubtless many other more fun things exist.
LMAO! OMIGOSH!
I cannot, in good conscience, vote this up, nor down. LOL.
Nothing has got me laughing as hard or as fast, for years.
I still can't upvote this. LOL. NOOOOOO! LOL. XD