It is a collection of small bottles of rum, all but one dedicated to a person, and when I no longer has to share my existence in this world with the person, I will toast in celebration!
Also, I have decided to treat my family to a celebration dinner at a nice restaurant when Trump falls over and stops being a problem.
Eh, when I made the ribbons and decided on who to include I didn't consider him as I focused on who was messing with my country (Sweden) the most at the time.
I do have one bottle that is unlabeled though, and I have decided that I will save it for when a real piece of shit dies and feel like celebrating, sort of a "bottle of the unkown bad guy"....
The site of Adolf Hitler's death, and of his first grave, is now a non-descript parking lot for a non-descript apartment block. This was done for exactly the opposite reason: To prevent any site from becoming a locus of commemoration.
But I certainly see your reasoning for Mr. Trump. I wonder how many people are actually there for Trump himself? How many would stick with him when he doesn't have the power to get them something?
What they should do is announce Hitler's grave. And whenever people go there for worship or whatever...it's open game on those people. Because the only good Nazi....
I don't think Hitler has a single place that is a permanent grave.
After he shot himself, his Nazi friends buried him and his wife in about 1 foot of dirt in the garden outside the bunker. (This is the place that is today a parking lot for an apartment block). The Soviet Red Army exhumed that grave within a few days and cremated the bodies and scattered them so as to not create any single place that could become a focal point for future neo-nazi movements.
That's the "funny" part about assholes dictators: their close circle will still praise them after their death, because they want to maintain the system and the cult for their own benefit, and because they don't know who will take the dead's place, and that person could remember what they say about dead people and assume they'll do it again...
A comedy but showing well the process: the movie "The death of Staline".
Apparently a brick in the mouth is what's needed to prevent vampires from rising again. Or maybe a blade over the neck. Honestly, let's compile a complete list and try them all just to be sure.
A man walked to the newspaper stand to buy a copy every single day. The man would take one look at the cover then simply throw the paper into the trash and go about his day.
Eventually the shopkeep became curious after months of this behavior and he decided to ask the guy what he was doing.
"Looking for an obituary." the man replied.
"Obituaries are in the back of the paper, not the cover." the shopkeeper said, a little confused.
"Not the obituary I'm look for." was the response.
Many years ago my parents had a neighbor. He was a nice guy but annoying as all hell at times, so much so that my mom purposely avoided him at the pool. If she saw him she’d go out of her way to walk around to the side of the pool and be sure to not get in the water when he was in there. She spent months not being able to say 1 remotely decent thing about him.
Then he died unexpectedly of a heart attack. And suddenly, according to her, he was the nicest person she knew, always so friendly and loved chatting with him, etc etc.
I was on a work zoom during covid. One guy was getting an award, (6 months before they told him to leave or be fired by the way) and the lady from "leadership" was talking about how she always enjoyed their chats near the eating area (before covid), and over teams he sent a message to a few of us that said "I have never spoken to her in my entire time here". She was so fake none of us doubted it for an instant. Funny as hell.
There was a famous case in France several years ago, around the freshly dead heinous monster named Jean-Marie Le Pen. His "orator talents" were praised after his death, both by dominant media and dominant politicians, including supposed to be ennemies with him and his legacy.
Those who still publicly stood against him and his legacy were told to rospect the dead and were vilified.
But as some members of communities he targeted said: "I will respect him in death like he respected us while alive."
The man was a white national-supremacist with ties to the OG nazis. Racist, imperialist, xenophobe, LGBT-phobe, redheaded-phobe(?), ... He very probably participated with enthousiasm in torture and other mass crimes from the french side during Algeria's independence war. (Also, colonialisation is a mass crime in itself.)
So yeah, fuck forced reverence.
This guy was a hateful mass criminal, and his death didn't change this fact.
I like to think we should celebrate like the massive crowd outside Florida State prison in 1989 for Ted Bundy's execution. No one mourned the execution of that monster or spoke well of him after he fried. Same for them.
If we're talking about D.J. Trump, then I'm pretty sure we can expect at least some sighs of relief in many countries, but not from those in power. This guy is a nuisance for more than just the USA, because of the USA's geopolitical dominant position, and also because of the international networking between supremacist leaders and similar.
We know that Trump is only the chaotic mouthpiece for a much larger and much more problematic power structure in the USA.
A power structure that has been quietly and increasingly fucking the rest of us for decades. Trump simply ripped the mask off and got loud about it.
Not just in the USA. All around the world, mainly among the self proclaimed "(representative) democraties", which are many countries.
(The openly authoritarian regimes are already authoritarian, but can still progress toward more intolerance.)
And yes Trump, while himself being the symptom of these systems current state, has acted as a catalyst for the march toward hateful authorianism.
Trump, while himself being the symptom of these systems current state, has acted as a catalyst for the march toward hateful authorianism.
He has also acted as a counterexample in a lot of places where people are waking up to the risks of going down that path towards hateful authoritarianism.
I had just been listening to some NDExperiencer/spiritualist or something just before posting that. And she was on about the level of perspective from which we do choose everything [from the timeless spirit realm "before" we were born]. :/ Hardly all that helpful from down here. Bit of a tractionless over-reach.
"When tragedy befalls a conservative, there must be decorum, reverence, and respect for the departed.
But when tragedy befalls a democrat, we are allowed to turn it into holloween costumes, jokes, mockery, and wishes for the tragedy to have been worse, more painful, etc" - Average conservative.
All someone would need to do is to post screenshots of the various tweets he made when others have died or been attacked. No one would even need to make up words of their own to post about it.
Honestly, the nation needs to make a concerted effort to take the tough guy macho stereotype away from conservatives. They're some of the whiniest little bitches I've ever come across in my life and the average conservative looks like they need an oxygen tank. Image is important and that one needs to be stripped from them.
"Honor thy father and mother" only works if yours are worth honoring. Talk to a social worker and you will find some parents that truly truly should not be honored.
That was supposed to mean if they managed to raise you to adulthood, you don't abandon them because they could still contribute to the community.
Mostly thru childrearing, keeping watch while others slept, and passing on knowledge and skills.
Not to mention a long difficult life likely making them plan long term and only the most risk adverse surving. Coupled with lowered hormone levels as we age and they're supposed to be the calm rational ones in the room.
A lot of the problems with Christianity was/is really problems with feudual Europe and how they twisted the religion to get the masses to tolerate wealth inequalities. In this case they they used the phrase to make people confirm to hierarchical roles. If ever man was king of his own castle, it gave him an outlet to take out his frustrations. The wife took hers out on the kids. And back then people stopped being kids at like 9 or 11 because it fucking sucked.
Couple years later and the cycle repeated
And it should be obvious today's oligarchs want to return to those times rather than progress from them.
And with this in mind I don't think the 10 commandments were ever intended as closed to interpretation, absolute law.
Of course the NT tells us that there was an abundance of people doing just that, but I mean the original purpose of whoever came up with the idea in the first place.
It's not the worst sort-of constitution to establish a society.
If they spent your entire childhood raping you and pimping you out, you may not think their community contribution should be honoured. I'm not being hyperbolic, btw, I have a close friend who suffered exactly that.
I think the dead should be allowed to reap the respect they earned in life.
In some cases that means you intentionally got to get infected by dysentery just to be able to almost shit enough on their grave.
I have a bottle of Pinot Grigio just for that occasion. And one for Musk, Putin, Netanjahu. The list is long. I will not go onto the streets and celebrate. But I will drink on a monsters demise.
Nope, they should be as infamous and notable as other historical shitheads. I want there to be fucking books about their evil and corruption, detailing all the fucked up shit they've done, all the obvious evidence that they were doing it, and then linking every business and person that supported them doing it at the time.
They are a stain that can't be removed from history, but a tiny smudge on the vast number individuals and corporations that backed them. That needs to change.
There are always going to be hitler simps. Humanity is diverse enough that some percentage of the population will be fucked up in the head enough to think that genital herpes is a divine gift. You're never going to influence those people. The goal is to make the everyday man level with the fact that they voted 3 times to have concentration camps and unparalleled corruption in this country. They should never be able to forget it, they should have to live with the shame of those decisions for the rest of their lives. Most of the people involved in this aren't monsters, they were just fearful little morons, and they need to fucking know it so that they can try to do better next time.
I hear you on the level of history should emphasize a "look at what we allowed" rhetoric to instill some semblance of public shame to curtail future behaviour. I just think it's at odds with the reality in which history is read; namely the "look at what these specific villains did, and were they justified" as a form of absolving ourselves and humanizing said villains.
If we're going to scapegoat, might as well not draw attention to it at all IMO
We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit.
Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently.
I remember when it waa official that he lost in 2020 there was spontaneous dancing the in street. The news kept showing live streams of empty COVID streets and then people starting going outside in their masks and dancing.
I'm not looking forward to the national week of mourning in Federal buildings though. Friggen post offices and whatnot will be forced to put shrines out. 😒😒
The world will celebrate unlike anything we've seen in our lifetimes. I almost compared it to Bin Laden being killed, but that was primarily an American celebration. This fuck's death will be a global celebration.
That means it'll get shoved down the throats of every disgusting MAGAt piece of shit in the country because it'll be too big to ignore. Which means they'll get all snowflakey and butthurt and that'll drive them to the polls to vote for whatever disgusting filth the GOP comes up with next. Probably just more bigotry.
But they were going to do that anyway.
There's no reason to hold back our joy for the benefit of low IQ fascist traitors. They're stupid bigots. Which means they were always going to make the wrong decisions, whether we were nice to them or not. And it's wrong to be nice and tolerate of mean, ignorant pieces of shit.
I'll be in the streets, banging pots and pans and singing songs.
I don't see any moral or ethical issue with celebrating someone's death.
Objectively, if the guy was a bad person, then he was a bad person. Literally, the whole world celebrated when Hitler died, and nobody seems to have an issue with that. Now, all of a sudden, we're supposed to be better than that?
I think if you're the kind of person, or public figure in this case, whose death people celebrate, that's more of a reflection on that person than on the people doing the celebrating.
Up to now I have bought two bottles of bubbly and three of spirits. The first bottle got consumed when I celebrated another thing last October. The other drinks went too so I'm just going to buy a bottle on that great day. Cheers, can't be long now. Surely !
I will only be respectful, if he literally takes a bullet for someone … and that’s it. If he collapses on stage or dies peacefully in his slumber, I will not.
Your two options are too easy. A fire and a stake are more appropriate. And if that's too barbaric maybe slowly lowered into a vat of acid. Just a couple of thoughts that are suitable.
Said it before, will say it again… we need a “Yellow Brick Road” guide that breaks down The Who and and Where and How to get to specific graves and well you know…
What I hate the most is that they are gonna Turtle him, like with Mcconnell, to rob us of the pleasure. It won't matter, the day it is officially announced is the day I bring out the fine stuff and blast festive music for 24 hours straight to let the whole neighborhood know.
Honestly, all I want to hear about him after he dies is just that he's dead, then we all simply and collectively move on and try to forget this dark chapter.
I'm not interested in cooking him posthumously for all the things he's doing that we already know are problems. I'm interested in what we're going to do next.
Astounding take. "Moving on and forgetting" is a great way to end up in the same situation all over again. Politics can be boring once the system functions in an equitable and sustainable manner. We don't get there by sweeping everything under the rug and sauntering away into the sunset.
There will need to be decades of repair work done before the USA is returned to its previous level. Not to mention also fixing the systemic weaknesses that allowed someone like Trump to do the damage that has been done.
His grave will be some tacky crypt on a private golf course, gold plated and built with immigrant labor. It will be designed to float six feet off of the ground, but will crash into the nearest water hazard after a week. It will be guarded by an elite crew of assassins that will stop showing up after a week because they never got paid.
Sounds like something a middle-man interloper would say to insidiously manipulate you into obedience [to their tricking you] and out of questioning [what other dodgy stuff they're up to].
"Brahma has no grandchild" sprang to mind just before I click Post.
I think you missed his meaning. He's patronizing Trump's critics.
Example - one of his comments: Also - Trump hasn't been as bad as claimed. He has mostly been what I expected for 12 years. Mostly ineffectual and inconsequential. Undeserving of the attention he is given.
They're fascists currently in control and making progress toward turning America into a Christofascist nation.
There are many issues, but they are definitely our primary issue right now. An immediate threat to our nation and democracy as a whole. They must be dealt with. Their cult leader dying and making their cult splinter into smaller, less dangerous pieces is the preferable way.
Then we can focus on dealing with the very clear problem with education in this country.
So basically every person on this planet cuz his dipshittery is now affecting gas prices across the globe.
But hey, at least we aren't the dipshits willingly emptying their wallets for him.
It's going to feel so satisfying when his mouth can't formulate words anymore. Literally no new words from a mouth that hasn't stopped making stupid noises since 1946.
Then please don't be angry at those not celebrating.
Okay I won't be angry at those not celebrating, you wanna stay home, that's your preogative. But I will be angry at the fascists loudly mourning his death when it happens, and doubly angry at the establishment media trying to launder the pedocapitalist's reputation in the future.
Absolutely, but I would be celebrating the death of an oppressor, not the change in figurehead. I do not expect the death or removal of the figurehead to change the trajectory of the settler-colonial entity.
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slothrop@lemmy.ca · 128 pts · 1d
"Good. I'm glad he's dead."
-- DJT (re: Robert Mueller)
stoy@lemmy.zip · 102 pts · 1d
I have posted this photo earlier...
It is a collection of small bottles of rum, all but one dedicated to a person, and when I no longer has to share my existence in this world with the person, I will toast in celebration!
Also, I have decided to treat my family to a celebration dinner at a nice restaurant when Trump falls over and stops being a problem.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 1d
I have some 25yo Scotch waiting
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 67 pts · 1d
You might want to change it out for some 12 year old scotch. It would be more appropriate.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 23h
Badum-tsst
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 23h
Don't waste the good shit on a shit person
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 17h
But you're cheersing better times
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
Who are the last 2 for? I cannot read the labels
Davel23@fedia.io · 22 pts · 1d
The rightmost one is Orban. Not sure who the other one is.
Edit: Oh, Murdoch maybe?
stoy@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 21h
Yes, you figured it out, Murdoch and Orban.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 12h
I think you have reason to drink the Orban bottle now! Or at least half of it.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 11h
Not until he is permanently gone (:
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 11h
He's the second youngest (yeah, hard to believe) of the 5. It's going to be some damn well aged rum.
But hey, appreciate the steadfastness.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 21h
Should package such a thing and sell it. With the names on them and all.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 19h
Hehe, it is a giftbox from Planteray:
https://www.systembolaget.se/produkt/sprit/planteray-1142604/
https://thesinglemaltshop.com/product/planteray-rum-experience-box-6-x10cl/
And I used a label maker from brother to print the ribbons.
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 17h
Trump, Putin, Musk, Murdoch?, Orban?
stoy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 17h
Yes! (:
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17h
It's beautiful 🥹
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 7h
No Bibi?
stoy@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2h
Eh, when I made the ribbons and decided on who to include I didn't consider him as I focused on who was messing with my country (Sweden) the most at the time.
I do have one bottle that is unlabeled though, and I have decided that I will save it for when a real piece of shit dies and feel like celebrating, sort of a "bottle of the unkown bad guy"....
KimSWE@nord.pub · 1 pts · 1h
Nice, might order it from systembolaget!
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 6h
I’m sad I got gout. I had a bourbon county waiting for the orange one to pass.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 57 pts · 1d
The line to piss and shit on his grave is gonna be hella long.
Drusas@fedia.io · 52 pts · 1d
They're going to have to hide it or it will be an endless stream of vandalism.
mkwt@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1d
The site of Adolf Hitler's death, and of his first grave, is now a non-descript parking lot for a non-descript apartment block. This was done for exactly the opposite reason: To prevent any site from becoming a locus of commemoration.
But I certainly see your reasoning for Mr. Trump. I wonder how many people are actually there for Trump himself? How many would stick with him when he doesn't have the power to get them something?
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
What they should do is announce Hitler's grave. And whenever people go there for worship or whatever...it's open game on those people. Because the only good Nazi....
mkwt@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 23h
I don't think Hitler has a single place that is a permanent grave.
After he shot himself, his Nazi friends buried him and his wife in about 1 foot of dirt in the garden outside the bunker. (This is the place that is today a parking lot for an apartment block). The Soviet Red Army exhumed that grave within a few days and cremated the bodies and scattered them so as to not create any single place that could become a focal point for future neo-nazi movements.
Davel23@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1d
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5d36e752yo
mkwt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23h
I am required to note that this article concerns the site of Hitler's birth, not of his death.
Davel23@fedia.io · 2 pts · 23h
Similar idea though.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 23h
That's the "funny" part about assholes dictators: their close circle will still praise them after their death, because they want to maintain the system and the cult for their own benefit, and because they don't know who will take the dead's place, and that person could remember what they say about dead people and assume they'll do it again...
A comedy but showing well the process: the movie "The death of Staline".
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
I watch it annually out of hope
libewa@feddit.org · 3 pts · 16h
It‘s not like a normal parking garage, there is an unusual amount of CCTV there.
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 1d
The piss would be an improvement to the soil after putting the body down there.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 13 pts · 1d
Pissing on Trump's grave would actually just be playing into his kink. Telling people to stop pissing would be kink shaming.
Exatron@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 22h
At least he'll be responsible for creating a gender neutral bathroom with his name on it.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 1d
I say we put garlic round his neck and a stake in his heart to ensure he never comes back.
fonix232@fedia.io · 19 pts · 1d
And just for good measure, have someone shit on his grave every 3 to 6 hours.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
I'll gladly eat nothing but Taylor Farms lettuce for a week before that pilgrimage. Get a nasty case of trumporrhea to shit all over his grave
huppakee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 18h
I bet there'll be more than enough people willing to shit on his grave
Drusas@fedia.io · 8 pts · 22h
Spread the parts around the world and toss some into space. You can never be too careful.
chtk@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 1d
Kill the brain, and you kill the ghoul.
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 23h
I hope your aim is good. That's a tiny target!
Enekk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h
Apparently a brick in the mouth is what's needed to prevent vampires from rising again. Or maybe a blade over the neck. Honestly, let's compile a complete list and try them all just to be sure.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 39 pts · 22h
huppakee@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 18h
veryblandusername@fedinsfw.app · 35 pts · 18h
A man walked to the newspaper stand to buy a copy every single day. The man would take one look at the cover then simply throw the paper into the trash and go about his day.
Eventually the shopkeep became curious after months of this behavior and he decided to ask the guy what he was doing.
"Looking for an obituary." the man replied.
"Obituaries are in the back of the paper, not the cover." the shopkeeper said, a little confused.
"Not the obituary I'm look for." was the response.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 1d
Bullhorns and bicycles at MAGA events "Why are you mourning a pedophile?! Why are you mourning a rapist!""
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 23h
Well you can ask them right now why they support a children rapist.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 23h
An oppressor doesn't become more acceptable because their dead especially when the harm they caused is still around.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 23h
Many years ago my parents had a neighbor. He was a nice guy but annoying as all hell at times, so much so that my mom purposely avoided him at the pool. If she saw him she’d go out of her way to walk around to the side of the pool and be sure to not get in the water when he was in there. She spent months not being able to say 1 remotely decent thing about him.
Then he died unexpectedly of a heart attack. And suddenly, according to her, he was the nicest person she knew, always so friendly and loved chatting with him, etc etc.
I straight up called her out on it.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 20h
I was on a work zoom during covid. One guy was getting an award, (6 months before they told him to leave or be fired by the way) and the lady from "leadership" was talking about how she always enjoyed their chats near the eating area (before covid), and over teams he sent a message to a few of us that said "I have never spoken to her in my entire time here". She was so fake none of us doubted it for an instant. Funny as hell.
untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 16h
Agreed.
There was a famous case in France several years ago, around the freshly dead heinous monster named Jean-Marie Le Pen. His "orator talents" were praised after his death, both by dominant media and dominant politicians, including supposed to be ennemies with him and his legacy. Those who still publicly stood against him and his legacy were told to rospect the dead and were vilified. But as some members of communities he targeted said: "I will respect him in death like he respected us while alive."
The man was a white national-supremacist with ties to the OG nazis. Racist, imperialist, xenophobe, LGBT-phobe, redheaded-phobe(?), ... He very probably participated with enthousiasm in torture and other mass crimes from the french side during Algeria's independence war. (Also, colonialisation is a mass crime in itself.)
So yeah, fuck forced reverence. This guy was a hateful mass criminal, and his death didn't change this fact.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 12h
This should be printed everywhere
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 12h
I like to think we should celebrate like the massive crowd outside Florida State prison in 1989 for Ted Bundy's execution. No one mourned the execution of that monster or spoke well of him after he fried. Same for them.
untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 11h
If we're talking about D.J. Trump, then I'm pretty sure we can expect at least some sighs of relief in many countries, but not from those in power. This guy is a nuisance for more than just the USA, because of the USA's geopolitical dominant position, and also because of the international networking between supremacist leaders and similar.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 8h
Only a brief one.
We know that Trump is only the chaotic mouthpiece for a much larger and much more problematic power structure in the USA.
A power structure that has been quietly and increasingly fucking the rest of us for decades. Trump simply ripped the mask off and got loud about it.
untropvertimide@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 7h
Not just in the USA. All around the world, mainly among the self proclaimed "(representative) democraties", which are many countries. (The openly authoritarian regimes are already authoritarian, but can still progress toward more intolerance.)
And yes Trump, while himself being the symptom of these systems current state, has acted as a catalyst for the march toward hateful authorianism.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 6h
He has also acted as a counterexample in a lot of places where people are waking up to the risks of going down that path towards hateful authoritarianism.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 7h
Them, being him, McConnell, and Graham?
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 2h
Yes, and many others.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 7h
Gingerphobe
PenguinMage@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 18h
Haha, I can't wait til I'm wearing my maga(tm)red "fuck trump" hat the day that fuckstick croaks. Die in a fire you piece of garbage.
And the first sucknut that says I should be respectful of the dead will get an earful. Respect is earned and dying is easy.
slemptastrophe@piefed.social · 1 pts · 6h
It's not easy enough for him. Motherfucker's doing everything but.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 11h
People thought we went hard on the human shit stain that was Charlie Kirk....that was a hand grenade, Trump will be a nuclear warhead.
echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 8h
No one had heard of him until he got shot. We know trump tho
Digit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 11h
Mhmm. These puppets are just ordinary people.
Ordinary.
nah.
Ordinance.
An authoritative command or order.
A custom or practice established by long usage.
A Christian rite, especially the Eucharist.
meh, closer.
Ordnance
Materiel in military logistics, including weapons, ammunition, vehicles, and maintenance tools and equipment
Artillery
Artillery shells
Aircraft ordnance, weapons carried by and used by an aircraft
That's what I hear when I hear ordinary these days.
Normalised cannon fodder.
"Guns don't kill people. People do." say some. Quibbling about whether it's the gun or the ammo aside, where are these people deploying this ordnance?
engagewithzorp@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
tumbleweed05@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 1d
i recommend noisemakers like vuvuzela horns and cowbells! 🥳
cranakis@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 1d
I'm shooting of fireworks
Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 12h
Why should I be respectful for a dead person when I didn't respect them when they were less dead?
Digit@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 11h
Because they did the decent thing and departed ...?
*shrug*
Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 4h
Not like they had a choice though
Digit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 56m
I had just been listening to some NDExperiencer/spiritualist or something just before posting that. And she was on about the level of perspective from which we do choose everything [from the timeless spirit realm "before" we were born]. :/ Hardly all that helpful from down here. Bit of a tractionless over-reach.
0x0@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 11h
You mean McConnell's been pronounced?
'Bout fucking time.
Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 5h
That is tomorrow or Wednesday.
daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 11h
You're thinking too small
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8h
The entire legislative branch? At this time of day, localized entirely to this government?
BioDriver@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 4h
We will show him the same amount of respect he showed others.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1h
I'll get creative!
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 10h
"When tragedy befalls a conservative, there must be decorum, reverence, and respect for the departed.
But when tragedy befalls a democrat, we are allowed to turn it into holloween costumes, jokes, mockery, and wishes for the tragedy to have been worse, more painful, etc" - Average conservative.
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 14 pts · 7h
All someone would need to do is to post screenshots of the various tweets he made when others have died or been attacked. No one would even need to make up words of their own to post about it.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6h
Remember the Republican collective laugh fit over Paul Pelosi's attack?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4h
That's a good one to repost, but with Trump's name in place of Mueller's!
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
Honestly, the nation needs to make a concerted effort to take the tough guy macho stereotype away from conservatives. They're some of the whiniest little bitches I've ever come across in my life and the average conservative looks like they need an oxygen tank. Image is important and that one needs to be stripped from them.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 16 pts · 1d
Reminds me of Hitchens' critique of the 10 commandments .
"Honor thy father and mother" only works if yours are worth honoring. Talk to a social worker and you will find some parents that truly truly should not be honored.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
That was supposed to mean if they managed to raise you to adulthood, you don't abandon them because they could still contribute to the community.
Mostly thru childrearing, keeping watch while others slept, and passing on knowledge and skills.
Not to mention a long difficult life likely making them plan long term and only the most risk adverse surving. Coupled with lowered hormone levels as we age and they're supposed to be the calm rational ones in the room.
A lot of the problems with Christianity was/is really problems with feudual Europe and how they twisted the religion to get the masses to tolerate wealth inequalities. In this case they they used the phrase to make people confirm to hierarchical roles. If ever man was king of his own castle, it gave him an outlet to take out his frustrations. The wife took hers out on the kids. And back then people stopped being kids at like 9 or 11 because it fucking sucked.
Couple years later and the cycle repeated
And it should be obvious today's oligarchs want to return to those times rather than progress from them.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 12h
And with this in mind I don't think the 10 commandments were ever intended as closed to interpretation, absolute law.
Of course the NT tells us that there was an abundance of people doing just that, but I mean the original purpose of whoever came up with the idea in the first place.
It's not the worst sort-of constitution to establish a society.
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 16h
If they spent your entire childhood raping you and pimping you out, you may not think their community contribution should be honoured. I'm not being hyperbolic, btw, I have a close friend who suffered exactly that.
Zier@fedia.io · 15 pts · 21h
The Humans of Earth will respectfully throw the largest global party in celebration of this criminals death.
man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 19h
It might legit bring about world peace 🕊️ ✌🏻
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 8h
Blud, I ain't respectful now to that fucking Russian intelligence asset.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 18h
How about a minute of silence for all his victims? Before the party, of course.
quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 18h
At first I thought you meant a minute for each victim, and it's like, I'm 38, I don't have enough time on the planet left for that.
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 16h
I think the dead should be allowed to reap the respect they earned in life.
In some cases that means you intentionally got to get infected by dysentery just to be able to almost shit enough on their grave.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 1 pts · 12h
A glycerin suppository can help you without needing to be sick.
zergtoshi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
In that case I'd be willing to shit the extra mile without shortcuts.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1d
In terms of raw number of people partying, it'll be the most widely celebrated death of all time. So far.
rustyfish@piefed.world · 13 pts · 13h
I have a bottle of Pinot Grigio just for that occasion. And one for Musk, Putin, Netanjahu. The list is long. I will not go onto the streets and celebrate. But I will drink on a monsters demise.
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 5 pts · 12h
I am almost 3 months without alcohol. But you know what? I'll do that, too. Drink a whole bottle or two at their demise...
tetris11@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 12h
dont ruin your road to recovery for the sake of a monster. Their names should be nothing more than a footnote in history
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10h
Nope, they should be as infamous and notable as other historical shitheads. I want there to be fucking books about their evil and corruption, detailing all the fucked up shit they've done, all the obvious evidence that they were doing it, and then linking every business and person that supported them doing it at the time.
They are a stain that can't be removed from history, but a tiny smudge on the vast number individuals and corporations that backed them. That needs to change.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 9h
You're still famous if people are chanting your name though. For them, infamy and fame are the same thing
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 9h
There are always going to be hitler simps. Humanity is diverse enough that some percentage of the population will be fucked up in the head enough to think that genital herpes is a divine gift. You're never going to influence those people. The goal is to make the everyday man level with the fact that they voted 3 times to have concentration camps and unparalleled corruption in this country. They should never be able to forget it, they should have to live with the shame of those decisions for the rest of their lives. Most of the people involved in this aren't monsters, they were just fearful little morons, and they need to fucking know it so that they can try to do better next time.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 9h
I hear you on the level of history should emphasize a "look at what we allowed" rhetoric to instill some semblance of public shame to curtail future behaviour. I just think it's at odds with the reality in which history is read; namely the "look at what these specific villains did, and were they justified" as a form of absolving ourselves and humanizing said villains.
If we're going to scapegoat, might as well not draw attention to it at all IMO
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 9h
We just let Nazis and Confederate go back to being regular people... And we still have Nazis and Confederates today, because the punishment for fucking up everything was just being told to be quiet about it for a little bit.
Let's change that. Don't let magats and trump supporting orgs off the hook this time. Make them lie in the bed they made, just once, and let's see if it works out differently.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 8h
Nah just pop a sparkling grape juice
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12h
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 20h
Make A Grave Already
kandoh@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 9h
I remember when it waa official that he lost in 2020 there was spontaneous dancing the in street. The news kept showing live streams of empty COVID streets and then people starting going outside in their masks and dancing.
This time, it's going to be a rager.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4h
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
I remember seeing footage of hordes of people celebrating in the streets in every major city.
Ydna@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 8h
I'm not looking forward to the national week of mourning in Federal buildings though. Friggen post offices and whatnot will be forced to put shrines out. 😒😒
DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 4h
Or temp toilets.
mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 21h
We all know the Dems will tell us to be respectful and cry on TV about civility
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 19h
A Proper Respect For the Office demands we wholeheartedly celebrate if the office outlasts the present holder, who's strangling it and us.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 3h
Im pissing on his grave.
Technically pissing in a bottle and pouring it on the grave to avoid exposure charges.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2h
I love that he's not going to get a public grave or really any kind of monument. It would be desecrated on a daily basis.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1h
Just look at his Hall of Fame star! Love the Los Angelians for that.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1h
Well, I won't promise a daily desecration on my end ... but stopping by as part of a yearly vacation is something I can do.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1h
I will take the exposure charges and wear that conviction on my sleeve as a badge of honor.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 17h
I will be “respectfully” pouring drinks for everyone at the party following the announcement.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 10h
He needs to get the Margaret "public toilet" Thatcher treatment.
Archelon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 5h
America’s most popular gender-neutral bathroom
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2h
The world will celebrate unlike anything we've seen in our lifetimes. I almost compared it to Bin Laden being killed, but that was primarily an American celebration. This fuck's death will be a global celebration.
That means it'll get shoved down the throats of every disgusting MAGAt piece of shit in the country because it'll be too big to ignore. Which means they'll get all snowflakey and butthurt and that'll drive them to the polls to vote for whatever disgusting filth the GOP comes up with next. Probably just more bigotry.
But they were going to do that anyway.
There's no reason to hold back our joy for the benefit of low IQ fascist traitors. They're stupid bigots. Which means they were always going to make the wrong decisions, whether we were nice to them or not. And it's wrong to be nice and tolerate of mean, ignorant pieces of shit.
I'll be in the streets, banging pots and pans and singing songs.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 15h
We'll be respectful with his classic lines:
"I could say that he was an ugly SOB. I could say he was a pedofilie. It might even be true. But I'm not going to. I'm being respectful."
m3t00@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 8h
memorial urinal wall.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 7h
You're not allowed to celebrate death in c/politics. Apparently.
But I will say this when he kicks the bucket. I won't lose a wink of sleep.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 7h
I will lose sleep.
To partying.
irish_link@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
Bwahahahaha
Spooge@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 7h
If you can't celebrate Trump's death, then I don't want to be there anyway. Ban me all you want, I'll be poppin' champ all day.
mechoman444@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 5h
I don't see any moral or ethical issue with celebrating someone's death.
Objectively, if the guy was a bad person, then he was a bad person. Literally, the whole world celebrated when Hitler died, and nobody seems to have an issue with that. Now, all of a sudden, we're supposed to be better than that?
I think if you're the kind of person, or public figure in this case, whose death people celebrate, that's more of a reflection on that person than on the people doing the celebrating.
DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 4h
Up to now I have bought two bottles of bubbly and three of spirits. The first bottle got consumed when I celebrated another thing last October. The other drinks went too so I'm just going to buy a bottle on that great day. Cheers, can't be long now. Surely !
Folstar@lemmus.org · 7 pts · 6h
Show Respect!
Counterpoint: Anyone respecting that horrid legacy is part of the ongoing problem and should be dealt with accordingly.
HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4h
It's a flavor of the Paradox of Tolerance:
If you respect disrespectful people, are you a respectful person?
I would say, "No."
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 6h
I will only be respectful, if he literally takes a bullet for someone … and that’s it. If he collapses on stage or dies peacefully in his slumber, I will not.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 6h
Him taking a bullet for someone would not be enough for him to be redeemed in my eyes
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
Child rapists don't get redemption.
DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 4h
Your two options are too easy. A fire and a stake are more appropriate. And if that's too barbaric maybe slowly lowered into a vat of acid. Just a couple of thoughts that are suitable.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 8h
We've already bought the bourbon & the Taco Truck shaped fireworks.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 8h
I ain't buying bourbon, or anything else made in Trump's America.
I have a nice bottle of 12 year scotch waiting for a celebration.
CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 10h
Said it before, will say it again… we need a “Yellow Brick Road” guide that breaks down The Who and and Where and How to get to specific graves and well you know…
Make it like a tour or right of passage.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 10h
I'll set up a lemonade stand at the beginning. I'll be a thousandaire over night!
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 8h
Sadly Americans don't do pubs or you could have it be along a pub crawl route
RedAggroBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h
Maybe this'll upset someone but I'm gonna say it. Pubs are the same thing as a bar and we have bar crawls, which are the same thing as a pub crawl.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
No, but we do hop bars, ya lazy drunks.
asdfwqer1234wqer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2h
Snark needs to give way to violence. All of his supporters are traitors.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
Sometimes, violence is the only language you can make yourself understood in. I speak many languages. None of them have worked so far.
rogsson@piefed.social · 5 pts · 10h
The amount of piss on his grave will need drainage. Fittingly that could be used to fill his shitty green pool.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8h
In before; they already budgeted a fund for 24/7 military guard at his gravestone
StuffYouFear@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4h
I have fireworks set aside just to celebrate this event. I should probably go get champagne too.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31m
Yeah, I definitely intend to crack a few open, take off work, that kind of thing.
And then I'm going to put his name in the past and let it stay there.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1h
What I hate the most is that they are gonna Turtle him, like with Mcconnell, to rob us of the pleasure. It won't matter, the day it is officially announced is the day I bring out the fine stuff and blast festive music for 24 hours straight to let the whole neighborhood know.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 19h
Oh yeah any moron wearing a MAGA apparel are in for a bad time like being on the wrong team at a sports event.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 19h
Honestly, all I want to hear about him after he dies is just that he's dead, then we all simply and collectively move on and try to forget this dark chapter.
I'm not interested in cooking him posthumously for all the things he's doing that we already know are problems. I'm interested in what we're going to do next.
Make politics boring again.
2hundredpancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 18h
Astounding take. "Moving on and forgetting" is a great way to end up in the same situation all over again. Politics can be boring once the system functions in an equitable and sustainable manner. We don't get there by sweeping everything under the rug and sauntering away into the sunset.
EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 15h
No. Never forget. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
khaleer@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 14h
If people proved something that is they will always take the wrong conclusion from past events, so I prefer for them to forget actually
FatVegan@leminal.space · 6 pts · 16h
Let's forget and move on to the next guy who knows how to bomb brown people
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 7h
Simply moving on is extremely inadequate.
There will need to be decades of repair work done before the USA is returned to its previous level. Not to mention also fixing the systemic weaknesses that allowed someone like Trump to do the damage that has been done.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
Absofuckinglutely not.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10h
biggest national celebration on that blessed day
DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 4h
"International". Cheers from Australia.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 11h
I won't be dancing on his grave but, as the president set the precedent, I'll be glad that he's dead.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 10h
His grave will be some tacky crypt on a private golf course, gold plated and built with immigrant labor. It will be designed to float six feet off of the ground, but will crash into the nearest water hazard after a week. It will be guarded by an elite crew of assassins that will stop showing up after a week because they never got paid.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 10h
You can dance (if you want to).
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
We can leave your friends behind
CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 10h
Why not dance?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10h
You'll end up getting shit all over your shoes.
CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 10h
The day I can look upon specific graves and make that judgment…
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h
And it will be all sloppy with piss
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 4h
Everyone I know has a bottle of champagne for the ocasion.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 10h
Nothing burns line an effigy!
Digit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 11h
Sounds like something a middle-man interloper would say to insidiously manipulate you into obedience [to their tricking you] and out of questioning [what other dodgy stuff they're up to].
"Brahma has no grandchild" sprang to mind just before I click Post.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 10h
I feel bad for people who have given him so much of their time, energy, and attention over the last 12 years.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 10h
I don't.
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10h
Me neither. Fuck them too
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · -2 pts · 5h
Have a fucking cookie.
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 10h
I think you missed his meaning. He's patronizing Trump's critics.
Example - one of his comments: Also - Trump hasn't been as bad as claimed. He has mostly been what I expected for 12 years. Mostly ineffectual and inconsequential. Undeserving of the attention he is given.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 6h
I appreciate the investigation. But I don't think you will make sense to them if they didn't understand the first time.
Yes Trump is a bafoon - but giving him what he wants isn't helping. And people give him every reaction he desires.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
I wouldn't give him a reaction if he was a bum accosting me on the street.
But he's the president, the single most powerful individual on the planet, and his policies are killing people. A lot of people.
Ignoring that is stupid and dangerous.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · -2 pts · 5h
Have a cookie
forkDestroyer@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 7h
It's probably ok to pay attention to things that are impacting your life.
It's not healthy to go overboard with it.
Is pretty hard not to put 2 & 2 together when looking at the cost of living impact.
SalamiDommie@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 5h
It is our mistake to think that Trump/MAGA alone are the primary issue that we need to deal with.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
They're fascists currently in control and making progress toward turning America into a Christofascist nation.
There are many issues, but they are definitely our primary issue right now. An immediate threat to our nation and democracy as a whole. They must be dealt with. Their cult leader dying and making their cult splinter into smaller, less dangerous pieces is the preferable way.
Then we can focus on dealing with the very clear problem with education in this country.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
So basically every person on this planet cuz his dipshittery is now affecting gas prices across the globe.
But hey, at least we aren't the dipshits willingly emptying their wallets for him.
It's going to feel so satisfying when his mouth can't formulate words anymore. Literally no new words from a mouth that hasn't stopped making stupid noises since 1946.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 1d
Then please don't be angry at those not celebrating. I never wanted this, and I am more than ready for a change.
But I fear what will happen next even more.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus · 9 pts · 22h
Okay I won't be angry at those not celebrating, you wanna stay home, that's your preogative. But I will be angry at the fascists loudly mourning his death when it happens, and doubly angry at the establishment media trying to launder the pedocapitalist's reputation in the future.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h
The wider they open their mouths to complain the easier it is to lob m&ms and shit in there. This occasion does not call for m&ms.
veryblandusername@fedinsfw.app · 1 pts · 18h
Trust me, Vance is going to be much worse. Trump is a known entity, he's going to do whatever benefits him in money and vanity.
Vance is a fucking snake, he holds no opinion outside of whatever Peter Thiel has told him to do.
It's quite literally the devil you know vs the one you don't.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 18h
Absolutely, but I would be celebrating the death of an oppressor, not the change in figurehead. I do not expect the death or removal of the figurehead to change the trajectory of the
settler-colonial entity.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
The word you're looking for is "mascot". Please, tell me what you think happens to Disney if Mickey gets his face blown off.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
Darcranium@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4m
Great. What are you all going to do about the policies he changed?
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -40 pts · 1d
Is this about Bernie Sanders?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 1d
Found it in a post about Mitch McConnell, but I can name dozens of others off the top of my head for whom this'll apply.
Bernie ISN'T one of them, though.
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 1d
Oh good I was worried you weren't a Bernie bro
mkwt@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22h
In case you really were hit by a brick somewhere, this post is about Donald Trump. And I'm not afraid to say that
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 22h
I'm shocked, I thought he was widely respected and loved by all