Good. Maybe now he's learned his fucking lesson.
Seriously, no sympathy for these people. He was perfectly fine with thousands of other people's lives and marraiges being destroyed, but suddenly when it happens to him I'm supposed to feel sad for him? Fuck no I don't feel sad.
Think about somebody else for a change asshole.
Because mass surveillance is bad? I don’t want my printer to send everything I print to private companies
I am ok with someone not being able to print out a gun and then blow people away with it.
And if mass surveillance bothers you, then you should get rid of your cell phone.
Also, private companies already have every bit of information about you. How do you think Google and Facebook and Twitter make their money?
Even if you are somehow ok with the surveillance, there are still issues with copywrite. I’m pretty sure it would be pretty easy for some large company to seal ideas or to prevent you from making replacement parts for stuff that you bought and paid for
Yeah but not everything I leagally buy and pay for can be used to murder people. For example, if I print out a battery cover for my remote control I then cannot go to a hotel room in Las Vegas and massacre 50 people at a country music festival with it.
Yeah but a right wing incel maniac trying to get a gun to go blow away a high school isn't going to know how to mill his own gun. He might download one and use his father's 3D printer to make one.
Good, means less lunatics waving around guns. No objection here.
To the people bitching, it's a moot point when you can buy a gun at virtually every wallmart in the country.
I mean a court decision may not matter much to a victim of ICE, yes. Fighting in the courts is one avenue of attack.
But what I mean by this, is that every executive order that Trump has done so far to try and steal the election has been overturned. Executive oder 14248 (The one which attempted to force ID for voting) has been permanently blocked into taking effect. His other executive order 14399 (which tried to stop mail in voting) has also been blocked nationwide. Even if these somehow are fast-tracked to the Supreme court and the assholes rule in favor of Trump, the midterms are less than three months away, there's no way for them to be implemented in time. Essentially his attempt to take over the elections through executive order has been thwarted.
Now, will he do what you predict, and send his goons to sieze ballots, arrest democrats, and just do a full on coup d'état? Well possibly (hopefully not.) But seeing how Jan.6th went for him I somehow doubt it. But if this (unlikely event imo) were to happen, it wouldn't be "too late" to fight back, that's when the real fight begins.
I mean if you're just asking for violent revolution beforehand to overthrow the fascists and destroy the exploitative system, etc all, regardless of the election, well good luck with that. I don't think you'll get any normies on board with overthrowing the government "just because."
And I say "just because," as that's how normie John Q. Taxpayer looks at it. Those are the people you'll need on board to be successful, and they're not going to go along with it, even if it's justified. The crimes and corruption and exploitation this government engages is angers people like you and me, but to regular people all they care about is their job, and how much Gas is per gallon, and if they can pay rent next month. You'll have zero success motivating these people to approve of your revolution without some kind of an event, Like say Trump doing a coup.
Voting against the fascists, for starters.
Showing up at protests.
Donating your time and money for causes you belive in.
Actually be active, and not an armchair activist.
When the time comes, take to the streets if necessary.
Trump's executive orders to that effect are essentially meaningless, and are being challenged & knocked down in the courts.
But to your scenario, if that were to actually happen that's when going beyond the law would be justified.
You know I was going to write this big huge thing, but after reading your last paragraph I see you don't want to take it further. But thanks, you have confirmed for me that the only reason some leftists support China and Russia is because these countries are supposed to be socialist, and not because of any measurable quality of life standards such as wealth, life expectancy, education, freedom of the press, political representation, and so on.
In real life, Russia and China are defacto capitalist oligarchies. I think I'll never support the corruption and oppression such governments propogate to uphold an ideology.
I don't give a shit what you're pointing out. I refuse to argue with genocide deniers.
Now I'm blocking you. Bye Bye.
P.S. If you really think the Ughur genocide is some kind of conspiracy theory invented by the west to make China look bad then you've got some serious mental problems. Wake up and smell the bullshit please.
Yeah but back then this is how you said hello.
Good. Maybe now he's learned his fucking lesson.
Seriously, no sympathy for these people. He was perfectly fine with thousands of other people's lives and marraiges being destroyed, but suddenly when it happens to him I'm supposed to feel sad for him? Fuck no I don't feel sad.
Think about somebody else for a change asshole.
I am ok with someone not being able to print out a gun and then blow people away with it.
And if mass surveillance bothers you, then you should get rid of your cell phone.
Also, private companies already have every bit of information about you. How do you think Google and Facebook and Twitter make their money?
Yeah but not everything I leagally buy and pay for can be used to murder people. For example, if I print out a battery cover for my remote control I then cannot go to a hotel room in Las Vegas and massacre 50 people at a country music festival with it.
Oh, I thought this was age verification to buy a firearm. But you mean age verification laws for online pornography.
Yeah fuck that shit.
How does it hurt the general public, exactly? By not letting them shoot each other?
What's wrong with age verification laws, exactly?
Yeah but a right wing incel maniac trying to get a gun to go blow away a high school isn't going to know how to mill his own gun. He might download one and use his father's 3D printer to make one.
Probably zero.
I just like the idea of there being less guns on the street.
I also like the idea of access to guns being highly regulated.
Well, no. It'll create a whole new class of crimes.
Good, means less lunatics waving around guns. No objection here.
To the people bitching, it's a moot point when you can buy a gun at virtually every wallmart in the country.
Am I the only person who's actually excited to see this?
I mean a court decision may not matter much to a victim of ICE, yes. Fighting in the courts is one avenue of attack.
But what I mean by this, is that every executive order that Trump has done so far to try and steal the election has been overturned. Executive oder 14248 (The one which attempted to force ID for voting) has been permanently blocked into taking effect. His other executive order 14399 (which tried to stop mail in voting) has also been blocked nationwide. Even if these somehow are fast-tracked to the Supreme court and the assholes rule in favor of Trump, the midterms are less than three months away, there's no way for them to be implemented in time. Essentially his attempt to take over the elections through executive order has been thwarted.
Now, will he do what you predict, and send his goons to sieze ballots, arrest democrats, and just do a full on coup d'état? Well possibly (hopefully not.) But seeing how Jan.6th went for him I somehow doubt it. But if this (unlikely event imo) were to happen, it wouldn't be "too late" to fight back, that's when the real fight begins.
I mean if you're just asking for violent revolution beforehand to overthrow the fascists and destroy the exploitative system, etc all, regardless of the election, well good luck with that. I don't think you'll get any normies on board with overthrowing the government "just because."
And I say "just because," as that's how normie John Q. Taxpayer looks at it. Those are the people you'll need on board to be successful, and they're not going to go along with it, even if it's justified. The crimes and corruption and exploitation this government engages is angers people like you and me, but to regular people all they care about is their job, and how much Gas is per gallon, and if they can pay rent next month. You'll have zero success motivating these people to approve of your revolution without some kind of an event, Like say Trump doing a coup.
Voting against the fascists, for starters.
Showing up at protests.
Donating your time and money for causes you belive in.
Actually be active, and not an armchair activist.
When the time comes, take to the streets if necessary.
Trump's executive orders to that effect are essentially meaningless, and are being challenged & knocked down in the courts. But to your scenario, if that were to actually happen that's when going beyond the law would be justified.
Yeah, sounds like Spud.
So the green lazer damages the camera, right? Not that I would ever do that myself.
Well not you, specifically.
Sure as hell seems like leftists supporters of China and Russia are, though.
It fucking hurts, yes.
You know I was going to write this big huge thing, but after reading your last paragraph I see you don't want to take it further. But thanks, you have confirmed for me that the only reason some leftists support China and Russia is because these countries are supposed to be socialist, and not because of any measurable quality of life standards such as wealth, life expectancy, education, freedom of the press, political representation, and so on.
In real life, Russia and China are defacto capitalist oligarchies. I think I'll never support the corruption and oppression such governments propogate to uphold an ideology.
I don't give a shit what you're pointing out. I refuse to argue with genocide deniers.
Now I'm blocking you. Bye Bye.
P.S. If you really think the Ughur genocide is some kind of conspiracy theory invented by the west to make China look bad then you've got some serious mental problems. Wake up and smell the bullshit please.