Our response was, as it is in most cases to help educate people who use it and the OS ecommended by microG themselves since they have deeper microG integration than what's available in official LineageOS. It's an official part of the microG project and it reveals a lot about their overall approach to privacy and security in the project.
We are often asked why we don't implement it instead of sandboxed Play Services and this just goes to further reinforce that position.
Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility are not the same. Motorola as a singular brand does not mean what it once did. The former spun off the latter and sold it. Mobile Phones are NOT a product of the firm with said ties.
Nothing public no however it was stated to us by individuals similarly aware of these devices as those referenced in the vice article in contact with us.
Doesn't matter how it was branded on the device, what matters for the infringement is how it was sold, we have information that they were being sold AS GrapheneOS using our trademark.
From the International Trademark Association
Use of well-known trademarks such as in comparison lists used by marketers of imitations, was not fair use because it gave the marketers an unlawful comparative advertising advantage by allowing them to trade off the reputation of the well-known marks. (EU)
Our name being used alongside and for the promotion of these products infringes our Trademark outside of fair use.
Based on the investigation done into it, it had a small subset of GrapheneOS changes applied and they falsely advertised it as GrapheneOS. They likely took some of the changes in order to mislead people into believing they were given a variant of GrapheneOS. It didn't use the GrapheneOS branding though. They used the already well established name and reputation of GrapheneOS to appeal to those it was being sold to.
France back in 2023 targeted Signal (discovered through a leaked memo) and it's service saying it wasn't secure to push ministers and others to French solution Olvid.
The same year French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin said that he would like to force encrypted messaging services to introduce 'backdoors' to make them available to authorities. Mirroring the recent threat from Johanna Brousse toward GrapheneOS:
"These hitherto inviolate devices, which protect communications and which do not share data on servers, are a new challenge that the cyber prosecutor's office intends to take on"
Correct, my message was to confirm that payments can and do work on GrapheneOS so long as there is an implementation available to you.
Now that you've mentioned the watch if it is a WearOS device capable of Google Pay then yes it can be used for payments independent of having Google Pay on the handset.
Is that a question specific to Swissquote or in general? If in general yes NFC payments are available on GrapheneOS so long as your bank or provider provides their own implementation such as ImagineCurve's Curve Pay.
A further opportunity has arisen!
Ever seen our AOSP based apps (Phone,Messages,Gallery...) & thought I could make a difference to bring them up?
We're seeking a senior Android engineer to take ownership of the default app suite:
https://grapheneos.org/hiring#android-apps-software-engineer
Code standard is high, vibe coders need not apply.
Our response was, as it is in most cases to help educate people who use it and the OS ecommended by microG themselves since they have deeper microG integration than what's available in official LineageOS. It's an official part of the microG project and it reveals a lot about their overall approach to privacy and security in the project.
We are often asked why we don't implement it instead of sandboxed Play Services and this just goes to further reinforce that position.
Motorola Solutions and Motorola Mobility are not the same. Motorola as a singular brand does not mean what it once did. The former spun off the latter and sold it. Mobile Phones are NOT a product of the firm with said ties.
https://proton.me/blog/lifetime-fundraiser-survey-2025
Nothing public no however it was stated to us by individuals similarly aware of these devices as those referenced in the vice article in contact with us.
Doesn't matter how it was branded on the device, what matters for the infringement is how it was sold, we have information that they were being sold AS GrapheneOS using our trademark.
From the International Trademark Association
Our name being used alongside and for the promotion of these products infringes our Trademark outside of fair use.
Based on the investigation done into it, it had a small subset of GrapheneOS changes applied and they falsely advertised it as GrapheneOS. They likely took some of the changes in order to mislead people into believing they were given a variant of GrapheneOS. It didn't use the GrapheneOS branding though. They used the already well established name and reputation of GrapheneOS to appeal to those it was being sold to.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Android+operating+system-%2Cgrapheneos%2C-%2C+also+provided+Motherboard
France back in 2023 targeted Signal (discovered through a leaked memo) and it's service saying it wasn't secure to push ministers and others to French solution Olvid.
The same year French Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin said that he would like to force encrypted messaging services to introduce 'backdoors' to make them available to authorities. Mirroring the recent threat from Johanna Brousse toward GrapheneOS:
"These hitherto inviolate devices, which protect communications and which do not share data on servers, are a new challenge that the cyber prosecutor's office intends to take on"
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2023/10/26/encryption-backdoors-an-unenforceable-yet-recurring-political-objective_6203950_13.html
In both cases it is likely realistically focused on pushing users to France based alternatives. In this case the EU funded murena /e/OS.
https://ngi.eu/impact-stories/e-os-project/
Indeed it is, as well as Paypal where supported too if your account falls under the right jurisdiction.
Correct, my message was to confirm that payments can and do work on GrapheneOS so long as there is an implementation available to you.
Now that you've mentioned the watch if it is a WearOS device capable of Google Pay then yes it can be used for payments independent of having Google Pay on the handset.
Is that a question specific to Swissquote or in general? If in general yes NFC payments are available on GrapheneOS so long as your bank or provider provides their own implementation such as ImagineCurve's Curve Pay.