I've met Russians in America. They halfway joked that if they ever spoke out publicly against him that there was a good chance that they would end up "accidentally" shooting themselves a few times before falling out of a window.
To clarify what I meant there, I'm not saying that they were willing to continue despite what the moderator said.
I meant that they would have continued to report other users for this reason until someone pointed out to them that this isn't really a rule violation.
Reporting the first user was warranted for breaking rule 2 (Be Civil).
However, reporting the second user for "downvoting a post they disagreed with" was not warranted.
The rules in that sub are specific, but, as the mod has stated, how you vote is not a part of any rule. It's a reminder of how you are expected to vote, but this should not be viewed as a rule that people can be reported for.
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In my opinion, that second report should have been seen as a misunderstanding/learning opportunity for the mod to reach out and clarify, and they should have given you a warning rather than jumping straight to a ban. If you had continued to report users for this same reason I could see a 1 day ban making sense.
From this post, it's not clear if you've had other interactions with the mod warning you against reporting for this reason. Considering how new your account is on here I would doubt it.
I disagree with the mod that you "started reporting anybody that disagreed with [you]" however, given your reasoning it's not hard to see that you were willing to do this and you could have easily continued down this path. This could be problematic especially given how easy it is to see how individual users vote in the fediverse (those votes are not private like they are on Reddit).
Overall I think this should have been more of a warning, and the mod could have handled the situation better. A 14 day ban would have easily been PTB material. The correction to a 1-day ban still feels excessive for what should have been a warning, but that in itself doesn't feel like this reaches the PTB level.
Adding onto this. Just a few highlights from the article:
She said: “I posted a poster for the Tiananmen Square massacre commemoration in Sutton and right after that, that account made deepfake images about me. They’ve been tagging my username since they started it.
Ni said that one of the posts accusing her of animal abuse had correctly written that she had a cat. She said: “I feel like they’re doing some kind of profiling of me … Every time I go out, I feel like I might be followed or watched. And I actually think that might be the case.”
Considering that there are secret Chinese police stations in other countries that target people like her, she likely is correct.
It's a 40 minute long video, so not something you can just send to someone with that attitude and say, "Watch it!" and expect them to actually watch it. But it would be a great way to get a list started with some sources. Judging by a list of timestamps in the comments, there are ~100 individual items from this video.
I clicked on a few more, a decent number of the links aren't really advocating for murder/violence at all.
There was one link I clicked on that did lead to someone advocating for murder (Kokesh), I didn't recognize who it was and their name wasn't highlighted as an instance Admin.
Looking at the modlog for that user, they have had a number of comments removed for advocating for murder/violence, so this is probably just a comment that slipped through the cracks.
Just to add a little context to this. The Brave CEO donated $1k to California's Proposition 8 almost 20 years ago (in 2008). 6 years later he formally apologized for it and stepped down as the CEO of Mozilla.
(e)For the purposes of this section, “law enforcement agency” means any agency, department, or other entity of the state or any political subdivision thereof that employs a peace officer as described in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, and any federal agency that enforces local, state, or federal laws.
(2) “Law enforcement agency” means any of the following:
(A) Any entity of a city, county, or other local agency, that employs a peace officer described in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code.
As far as cults go, they don't sound like a "literal cult" when reading about them on Wikipedia:
Ian Johnson argued that applying the 'cult' label to Falun Gong effectively "cloaked the government's crackdown with the legitimacy of the West's anticult movement". He wrote that Falun Gong does not satisfy common definitions of a cult: "its members marry outside the group, have outside friends, hold normal jobs, do not live isolated from society, do not believe that the world's end is imminent and do not give significant amounts of money to the organisation ... it does not advocate violence and is at heart an apolitical, inward-oriented discipline, one aimed at cleansing oneself spiritually and improving one's health."[74]: 224 David Ownby similarly wrote that "the entire issue of the supposed cultic nature of Falun Gong was a red herring from the beginning, cleverly exploited by the Chinese state to blunt the appeal of Falun Gong".[63]
If you want to maintain some sort of privacy when voting on any platform in the Fediverse:
Create an alt account, do not make any posts/comments with it, only use it for voting.
Otherwise we would need an instance that generates a bunch of voting accounts. Then, when you vote on something, the instance randomly assigns that vote to one of their voting accounts and sends out that vote information to other instances. Then only the Admins of your home instance would be able to view your voting history.
TL/DW:
Pokimane started a snack company. There are rumors that the company is going bankrupt.
The website is suddenly inaccessible (this is what the "deleted everything" statement is referring to).
I've met Russians in America. They halfway joked that if they ever spoke out publicly against him that there was a good chance that they would end up "accidentally" shooting themselves a few times before falling out of a window.
To clarify what I meant there, I'm not saying that they were willing to continue despite what the moderator said.
I meant that they would have continued to report other users for this reason until someone pointed out to them that this isn't really a rule violation.
I can see both sides to this.
Reporting the first user was warranted for breaking rule 2 (Be Civil).
However, reporting the second user for "downvoting a post they disagreed with" was not warranted.
The rules in that sub are specific, but, as the mod has stated, how you vote is not a part of any rule. It's a reminder of how you are expected to vote, but this should not be viewed as a rule that people can be reported for.
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In my opinion, that second report should have been seen as a misunderstanding/learning opportunity for the mod to reach out and clarify, and they should have given you a warning rather than jumping straight to a ban. If you had continued to report users for this same reason I could see a 1 day ban making sense.
From this post, it's not clear if you've had other interactions with the mod warning you against reporting for this reason. Considering how new your account is on here I would doubt it.
I disagree with the mod that you "started reporting anybody that disagreed with [you]" however, given your reasoning it's not hard to see that you were willing to do this and you could have easily continued down this path. This could be problematic especially given how easy it is to see how individual users vote in the fediverse (those votes are not private like they are on Reddit).
Overall I think this should have been more of a warning, and the mod could have handled the situation better. A 14 day ban would have easily been PTB material. The correction to a 1-day ban still feels excessive for what should have been a warning, but that in itself doesn't feel like this reaches the PTB level.
It's the norm among the "threadiverse" (reddit-like instances), but this is not a common feature on Twitter-like instances.
You can even hear it in the officer's voice as he mutters "Wow." When opening the door to his cruiser.
It's a long bill, but the details for this ban can be found in Title X almost at the bottom:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/6644/text#d10163e18706-intro-1
There's a consumer rights wiki we can use to help keep track:
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Reddit
The most recent changes look to be a mobile web blockage and requiring a login for using old.Reddit.
I didn't see a dedicated page to this incident yet, but there is a section specifically for this event here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial_Reflecting_Pool
Adding onto this. Just a few highlights from the article:
Considering that there are secret Chinese police stations in other countries that target people like her, she likely is correct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_service_stations
Legal Eagle has a good list going with sources over here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hybL-GJov7M
It's a 40 minute long video, so not something you can just send to someone with that attitude and say, "Watch it!" and expect them to actually watch it. But it would be a great way to get a list started with some sources. Judging by a list of timestamps in the comments, there are ~100 individual items from this video.
A small snippet from the article includes details for a decent number of the deaths:
I clicked on a few more, a decent number of the links aren't really advocating for murder/violence at all.
There was one link I clicked on that did lead to someone advocating for murder (Kokesh), I didn't recognize who it was and their name wasn't highlighted as an instance Admin.
Looking at the modlog for that user, they have had a number of comments removed for advocating for murder/violence, so this is probably just a comment that slipped through the cracks.
I'm all for an age cap. It should be dynamic and based on some sort of percentage of the average lifespan of the population in their area.
It would provide a good incentive for them to vote in/pass legislation which would help raise the overall life expectancy of everyone.
Poe's Law strikes again:
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
Adding a
/swould help convey that intent a little more. And if you're going for the "Got ya!" satire effect, you could always hide it in a spoiler.Just to add a little context to this. The Brave CEO donated $1k to California's Proposition 8 almost 20 years ago (in 2008). 6 years later he formally apologized for it and stepped down as the CEO of Mozilla.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
His apology is viewable on his website: https://brendaneich.com/
The worst part is, this did apply to state law enforcement up until the final revision when they decided to change it:
https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB627/id/3267892
(e)For the purposes of this section, “law enforcement agency” means any agency, department, or other entity of the state or any political subdivision thereof that employs a peace officer as described in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 of the Penal Code, and any federal agency that enforces local, state, or federal laws.https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB627/2025
As far as cults go, they don't sound like a "literal cult" when reading about them on Wikipedia:
If you want to maintain some sort of privacy when voting on any platform in the Fediverse:
Create an alt account, do not make any posts/comments with it, only use it for voting.
Otherwise we would need an instance that generates a bunch of voting accounts. Then, when you vote on something, the instance randomly assigns that vote to one of their voting accounts and sends out that vote information to other instances. Then only the Admins of your home instance would be able to view your voting history.
Looks like they were actually aware of it after all.
If you watch the video of it, they come in very calmly and the first thing they say is, "you've been swatted again."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbqBZ1v8BRg
TL/DW:
Pokimane started a snack company. There are rumors that the company is going bankrupt. The website is suddenly inaccessible (this is what the "deleted everything" statement is referring to).