And for the ones where it is, they'll just choose United, and then you can't get healthcare anyway because none of the clinics will bill United Health because of their denial rate.
Literally not a single physical therapy office, occupational therapy office, immunotherapy, asthma clinic, or essentially any other outpatient facility within 100 miles of me takes United Health.
And they've managed to swindle this in such a way that I can't even appeal denied claims because they do this in such a manner: the claim is considered invalid from the provider's side until the provider follows an appeals process for every single claim (which many of these providers cannot do). They don't have the resources to go through an appeals process for every claim, which requires their doctors to actually be on the phone with United.
Well "solved" is a bit of a weird way to say it. Was it proven as true, or was it disproven? Both of those change things in different ways.
Proven true that it is a stable formula, then that's cool, and we know that issues with fluid simulations based off of that are a software and compute problem.
If it was disproven, then we learn precisely under what specific conditions nature becomes mathematically unpredictable, and then we can start developing different and better models.
Weird that 996 is on the list, as the point of them using GitHub is to use it as durable forum software, not as a software project issue board like the other items on this list.
No, but you do, and guaranteed that as they buy up and shut down competitors they will squeeze you for everything you're worth over largely inelastic demands like pillows, or medicine, or soap...etc
Also haircuts? Haircuts, unless we're really that deep in corporate hell, are between you and the barber/shop. Billionaires aren't cutting your hair, the person cutting your hair, the person who owns the salon or barbershop ever, is a peon just like you and me. Small business owners are in the same class as us.
You could include energy usage in the equation, but if you're buying a $10,000 Mac Studio to edit your PDFs and watch YouTube, then that's your own decision. That's also not what we're talking about here.
The Mac is still going to be incredibly energy efficient.
Let's break it down for Qwen 3.5 MoE.
M4 Ultra Mac Studio:
22t/s
~ 210Wh
9.55 watts per token/s
B300 GPU:
~ 2160t/s per GPU
~ 1750Wh (14Kwh 8 GPU System)
0.88 watts per tokens/s
The Mac Studio comes out using ~ 11-12x more energy per token. Making it extremely energy inefficient at this task in comparison.
Have you used open weight models for serious jobs? Ones that you can actually run effectively on a Mac studio? (Not deepseek v4 pro, not Kimi K3, not GLM 5.3)
They work alright, at best, sometimes.
And the ones you can't run effectively, locally, like Kimi K3 are considerably better at demanding tasks like software engineering. But even then they still suck at that job compared to frontier Anthropic and OpenAI models. I've been building with all of the above, and the open weight models just overall suck at serious high demand software workloads.
And highlights one of the problems here , toxicity.
Instead of engaging the poster at the problem, you just attack them personally. For some reason, this sort of behavior seems to be amplified here, moreso than Reddit.
I did the math the other day, and the cost of the mac versus the token rate that you get off of it for a decent model would take you over 70 years of 100% 24/7/365 usage to pay for itself versus just using hosted inference.
They are wildly poor options for local AI models, at least on a cost basis. If you don't care about spending $10,000 to run a halfway okay model at 100x the cost, then go for it.
Ah yes, the 7h of troubleshooting why I can't get the easiest distro to install on my laptop only to find out it's installer has a bug with my specific hardware and firmware that gets it all cocked up.
This is a dumb meme.
I have as much fiddling to do with a Linux install as I do with a Windows install. The difference being that windows tends to "just work", and then I have to declaw it. While Linux tends to "sometimes work" and I then need to add stuff in.
I mean, not really. For the first time ever, the interest on our national debt has now exceeded what Medicare costs the U.S.
And for the ones where it is, they'll just choose United, and then you can't get healthcare anyway because none of the clinics will bill United Health because of their denial rate.
Literally not a single physical therapy office, occupational therapy office, immunotherapy, asthma clinic, or essentially any other outpatient facility within 100 miles of me takes United Health.
And they've managed to swindle this in such a way that I can't even appeal denied claims because they do this in such a manner: the claim is considered invalid from the provider's side until the provider follows an appeals process for every single claim (which many of these providers cannot do). They don't have the resources to go through an appeals process for every claim, which requires their doctors to actually be on the phone with United.
Well "solved" is a bit of a weird way to say it. Was it proven as true, or was it disproven? Both of those change things in different ways.
Proven true that it is a stable formula, then that's cool, and we know that issues with fluid simulations based off of that are a software and compute problem.
If it was disproven, then we learn precisely under what specific conditions nature becomes mathematically unpredictable, and then we can start developing different and better models.
Damn, and only for $180-$230k/y?
That's highway robbery salary for employment in an industry as ripe as that, somehow makes me like them even less.
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Weird that 996 is on the list, as the point of them using GitHub is to use it as durable forum software, not as a software project issue board like the other items on this list.
No, but you do, and guaranteed that as they buy up and shut down competitors they will squeeze you for everything you're worth over largely inelastic demands like pillows, or medicine, or soap...etc
Also haircuts? Haircuts, unless we're really that deep in corporate hell, are between you and the barber/shop. Billionaires aren't cutting your hair, the person cutting your hair, the person who owns the salon or barbershop ever, is a peon just like you and me. Small business owners are in the same class as us.
Naw, flawed argument, they steal our resources and then fund themselves by illegal and manipulative means.
Also the economy is shifting where the top 1% are moving closer to being 50% of spending, making the argument rather void.
Could be simpler, yep.
If it was that straightforward then reality would be different huh?
I mean, that's probably part of the point
Otherwise known as corporate welfare.
Problem being that the majority of software engineers really don't know how to build software well.
And are using AI as a tool to just accelerate their lack of engineering.
You could include energy usage in the equation, but if you're buying a $10,000 Mac Studio to edit your PDFs and watch YouTube, then that's your own decision. That's also not what we're talking about here.
The Mac is still going to be incredibly energy efficient.
Let's break it down for Qwen 3.5 MoE.
The Mac Studio comes out using ~ 11-12x more energy per token. Making it extremely energy inefficient at this task in comparison.
They really aren't.
Have you used open weight models for serious jobs? Ones that you can actually run effectively on a Mac studio? (Not deepseek v4 pro, not Kimi K3, not GLM 5.3)
They work alright, at best, sometimes.
And the ones you can't run effectively, locally, like Kimi K3 are considerably better at demanding tasks like software engineering. But even then they still suck at that job compared to frontier Anthropic and OpenAI models. I've been building with all of the above, and the open weight models just overall suck at serious high demand software workloads.
Honestly, this is such a Lemmy comment.
And highlights one of the problems here , toxicity.
Instead of engaging the poster at the problem, you just attack them personally. For some reason, this sort of behavior seems to be amplified here, moreso than Reddit.
No, no, they have not.
I did the math the other day, and the cost of the mac versus the token rate that you get off of it for a decent model would take you over 70 years of 100% 24/7/365 usage to pay for itself versus just using hosted inference.
They are wildly poor options for local AI models, at least on a cost basis. If you don't care about spending $10,000 to run a halfway okay model at 100x the cost, then go for it.
Christ, Lemmy really is going downhill. Someone is making an argument of fact, and you're making an argument on emotions.
These are clearly not the same thing, yet you're still here making bad faith arguments.
Ah yes, the 7h of troubleshooting why I can't get the easiest distro to install on my laptop only to find out it's installer has a bug with my specific hardware and firmware that gets it all cocked up.
This is a dumb meme.
I have as much fiddling to do with a Linux install as I do with a Windows install. The difference being that windows tends to "just work", and then I have to declaw it. While Linux tends to "sometimes work" and I then need to add stuff in.
Mhm. Horse radish