emmanuelw

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French pastor here: at least in France, I am bound by professional secrecy, except for crimes. If I hear someone committed a crime, even more so if it's a repeated offense, I can and will report it. I believe it's the same for other professions, except perhaps lawyers: if a doctor learn that someone did or do a crime, they have to report it.

It's probably different in your country, I just said that because I find that interesting.

on Marche 2026 pour Jesus · c/france · 4 pts · 86d

Oui, c'est issu de la mouvance Ă©vangĂ©lique (les Ă©vangĂ©listes c'est les rĂ©dacteurs des Ă©vangiles, pour les protestant·es littĂ©ralistes on dit Ă©vangĂ©liques), mais c'est volontairement assez interdĂ©nominationnel pour laisser toutes celles et tous ceux qui croient en JĂ©sus, au-delĂ  des divergences assez importantes entre nous, marcher ensemble. En tant que pasteur protestant (canal historique, donc thĂ©ologiquement assez Ă©loignĂ© des Ă©vangĂ©liques), je n'y ai jamais participĂ©, mais je vois pas ça d'un mauvais Ɠil.

Mais je serais curieux de voir ce qu'il y a dans cette revue
 pas sĂ»r qu'iels parviennent Ă  ĂȘtre si interdĂ©nominationnels que ça.

Theologian here, although not Catholic.

We could see this debate as the Catholic church being more progressive than the US and in part it's true. But it's a quite conservative view within the Catholic tradition: in the beginning of Christianity, all violence were deemed unjust, and people preferred to die than to be violent. Then Augustine and others theorized the just war, which is the base of the international war law. But in the 20^th century, the Catholic church evolved on the subject, stating again that all war were unjust:

  • Any apotheosis of war is to be condemned as an aberration of mind and heart. (Pope Pius 12, 1953)
  • It becomes impossible to believe that war is the appropriate means to obtain justice for a violation of rights. (Pope John 23)
  • There is no just war (Pope Francis, 2022)

The current version of The Catechism of the Catholic Church never use the expression “just war”, and justifies only violence in case of defense.

So the fact that the pope is arguing about just war is not the church being progressive, but being in fact fusty according to its own tradition. I think the definition the pope has to just war is not the Augustinian one, but one that limit war to defense, so the difference between him and Francis on the ideas is in fact non-existent, but the usage of the expression is by itself a defeat.

I tend to disagree. Firstly, nobody cares about my blog, so it's more a public personal journal than anything else (a web log, in other words). I do “publish into the void” and I'm not delusional enough to think otherwise, I'm okay with that. Secondly, yes emails are private; but if i have an interesting discussion by mail about a blog post, I can write a second article resuming our exchange in a more easily readable way than the naked messages. Thirdly, and maybe more importantly, if someone want to make their opinion about something I wrote public, they can do it in their own place. For me the blog ideal is not a succession of isolated islands, but a interconnected net. The discussion should occur not within the blogs, but between the blogs.