Dawkins never made a positive statement for or against it having consciousness. That's commentary added on by people who pick up being anti-AI as personality traits, and they deliberately went out of their way to misread what Dawkins wrote about his AI experiences the same way they have his entire career over his biological assertions and those about the irrationality of religious faith.
Dawkins, in fact, specifically noted that at some point there must've been periods of partial consciousness as it arose in animals, rather than a generation of zero consciousness followed by a generation of fully conscious beings. He then argued it could be possible AI experiences something similar as the tech progresses.
But I don't understand the general pushback against just considering the notion unless one believes in a human soul (and therefore that all animals also lack consciousness, even if varying levels). Our own consciousness is emergent of various properties (unless one is religious and believes in a soul). AI "intelligence" is emergent, which is why we don't fully understand it, it behaves unpredictably, and produces non-deterministic results.
At the end of the day, I think people get emotional about the topic because it makes them really uncomfortable even to just entertain something that says something about themselves and their own specialness.
It's exactly this. And no matter how much one wants to reframe this (or hold out hope it isn't implemented), the die has already been cast. The very fact that this ever made it out of early discussions should tell everybody it's the end of reddit for them.
I don't know how many communities this has to happen with before the message sinks in: gatekeeping can be good, and it needs to be done more often. Because the moment an entity, like Reddit, can replace its original core audience with drama-chasing slop consumers, it's over.
Pretty sure it may have been your feed, because about 33% of my front page and /r/all are political (slightly more on /r/all at this point).
Not that it matters all that much to me. The reddit hive mind tolerates precisely one political voice, and angrily shouts down anyone outside of the orthodoxy including people very, very near to them in most/all issues but not total perfect alignment. If Reddit proper were serious about turning things around, the first thing they would do is rethink the account BS they just pulled, and the second would be using their pretty decent fingerprinting techniques against supermods to ensure nobody can mod more than 5 subreddits (and site-wide ban evaders). The third would be to ban instances of auto mod being used to preemptively auto ban people for engaging in subreddits (or previously using key words) they don't like.
I miss the old reddit. The reddit built by and for tech enthusiasts and tech pros instead of it being a political launchpad.
The bottom comes when the sports game addicts run out of money and stop buying the same $70-$80 games every year before unloading hundreds into paid DLC that is non-transferable between the yearly versions (which have almost zero practical changes aside from roster updates and in-game ads/branding).
But a few decades have proven they are quite a resilient cohort and tough to crack.
Pretty disingenuous post to be honest. Regardless of what one thinks of the wind bag.
His entire take is:
NYC ID for voting? Bad, horrible, not gonna happen.
NYC ID for buying discounted groceries? That's logical, common sense, we must take measures to ensure only valid residents can partake.
Even the most staunch Musk hater has to be able to see what a precarious position things are in. Logically, it is impossible to honestly defend one stance while rejecting another. I hate that this seems like I'm defending him, but it is more like I'm imploring people to be intellectually honest and consistent with themselves so others don't use them as tools in a bigger game.
People are already saying intellectually dishonest things like "voting is a right, the grocery store isn't." Then will have a post history that talks about food being a right, thereby confirming it is just more zero sum logic at play. Lots of words, but it all means nothing.
Plenty to strongly dislike about him. This ain't even on the menu.
I seriously wonder if more competent mobile gaming picks up some of the slack considering the “retro emulator” machines are starting to run PC games via Game Native app. If i didn't already have a steam deck i would seriously consider one of those devices.
I’m not convinced that we are going to see a renewed push for optimization. I think streaming will be aggressively pushed with low time limits in the forthcoming next gen to “make it affordable.” Xbox was ahead of the curve in that regard.
To prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. I get America-bad or whatever, but even the IAEA has made many statements that Iran has not been compliant for years, is fabricating and outright omitting data, does not permit previously agreed upon inspections, and is stockpiling materials to make nuclear bombs.
Now, is that really the reason we got involve? Israel struck first. So probably not. But it is definitely a reason, and a valid one at that. Any way one slices it, a fundamentalist religious state should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. The world is bad enough as it is with the fundamentalist religious who do have them already.
EU demands security theater. They are attempting to force backdoors into all of these APIs and systems (including locally run AI) for the nanny state. Very unfortunate.
There is on device AI in the Apple ecosystem. Many of the AI features that they announced will run locally (assuming hardware requirements are met). Things like Spatial Reframing will touch the cloud (via private compute) though. Other than that, Apple has an entire entry point for running AI close to the metal via MLX. It is kind of their entire angle at this point given their inability to create a competitive compelling AI product of their own. They appear to be taking on the role of "platform" once again.
Why? There would need to be some kind of pressure one way or another unless it is totally inconsequential.
One pressure would be that organisms would be fitter with the ability to conceal and deceive. That would lend credence to what you're suggesting; process and compress locally, filter locally, send only when advantageous.
But the opposite pressure might be social exclusion which makes individual members of a cohort weaker.
The real question is: what does an organism gain one way or the other? There's only tradeoffs in evolution. Is the mental and physical tax of local processing worth it, or is the hive-mind style survival benefits more beneficial to reproduction and expansion?
Cheat codes were originally for testing and, occasionally, for fun. Sometimes they became Easter eggs. I can't think of a single game where your assertion is true today or in the past.
They also tend to have less sprawl, more homogenous and high trust societies (relative to where most people live in the US), and a shaky history of true legally enforced disability considerations. On that latter part, there still isn't a good equivalent to the ADA in European peer countries. Europeans will hand wave it away, but it's too patchwork and exclusionary.
All things in this scope considered (i.e., not healthcare necessarily), I'd rather be disabled in the US than in Europe or most Asian countries because the US actually have strong legal protections both federally and at the state levels. Lack of extensive public transport outside of a couple major hubs is obviously a problem for most people (especially the disabled). But no other country comes close to enshrining protections like the US did with the ADA (and how some states extended it even more themselves).
Something all of us have to keep in mind, especially based on many of the comments here generalizing about MAGA, Jews (and the guilt by association angle), immigrants more broadly (for the rare conservative about these parts), etc..
I see a lot of rationalization and emotionally strong trigger words being used to justify acting the way Arnold is being celebrated for saying people should not act.
Skepticism is good. However, there is a lot of evidence that Gen Z is quite tech illiterate in general, but especially compared to the Millennial cohort. Colleges and universities have had to force Gen Z students into basically remedial computing courses just to teach them how file systems work and other simple-yet-taken-for-granted concepts work. Drop rates for CS degrees are climbing as Gen Z moves into higher education and hits a very difficult wall for them.
And, in the end, that last bit was definitely another scam targeting their relative ignorance in the space. That is why so many "influencers"/scam artists target/targeted them with "career guides" or code boot camps or whatever. And I think that disillusionment is also part of the backlash against devs in general as "tech bros" despite very few devs actually working in the Valley for those companies under those conditions.
Gen Z falls for online scams more than their boomer grandparents do
Temu is legitimately malware. The company had their source dumped and they obfuscated their malware-like practices to avoid Google's automatic detection. I presume they did the same with their iOS client. It is very telling that they have been extremely successful despite the same exact company and team doing this before with another app, Pinduoduo. That's right; same dev team and everything. Temu goes above and beyond the normal surveillance capitalism stuff we are used to and circumvents system security in order to sell your raw data on the market. The entire scheme isn't to build a retail space (although it is doing that as well); it is to get as many people to download the app so they can steal an absurd amount of data which is normally protected.
Greed isn't the ultimate human trait. Cooperation and curiosity are. We never would have built societies without either. We never would have advanced to the point we have without both. Everyone has greed in them, just like everyone has the opportunity to be angry or sad. But the notion that it is the ultimate human trait or somehow stronger than other characteristics is truly capitalist propaganda meant to justify their immoral hoarding of our wealth.
After all, if greed is the most natural and strongest human attribute... well, the do-nothing takers at the tippy top of the food chain can just continue to suck our blood and deprive us of our agency since it is natural.
There is a reason we don't live in libertarian hellscapes. It is because greed is not the ultimate human trait.
I agree, and those routers can be extremely cheap. I recommend people plug them directly into ethernet whenever possible otherwise speeds basically get cut in half when operating as extenders (just like at home, excepting backhaul).
And in hotels without an obvious ethernet port: check behind the TV. There is usually a less metered port on the wall back there for use by the TV. Sometimes it is restricted, but I've been pleased to find that enough hotels don't have the foresight to do more than simply obscure things a bit.
That's not accurate. The article is about Australia. Netflix Australia had a net loss of 200K subscribers specifically due to the anti-consumer moves they've made which affects a lot more than just sharing a password with a family member. That's a 3% decline in a major country. Meanwhile, Netflix rivals had subscriptions increase overall and several saw huge surges. Netflix remains #1 by total subscribers in Australia, but that shouldn't shock anyone given the inherit momentum they possess.
The article was never about Netflix globally. It was always about Australia. Companies operate business units in regions, and each region must perform.
The comments are just so much worse than the top posts. It is akin to Twitter after Musk pushed the main active user base away in exchange for a Faustian deal with right wingnuts. That or Reddit was truly duplicitous in their messaging and are perfectly fine taking money from propaganda organizations running in other countries which can pay the API fees to push narratives still. Not that they'd want that before an IPO or anything....
I encourage everyone to read what Dawkins actually wrote, not what a bunch of activists who hate him say that he wrote. https://archive.ph/dnWJn#selection-1025.15-1025.517
Dawkins never made a positive statement for or against it having consciousness. That's commentary added on by people who pick up being anti-AI as personality traits, and they deliberately went out of their way to misread what Dawkins wrote about his AI experiences the same way they have his entire career over his biological assertions and those about the irrationality of religious faith.
Dawkins, in fact, specifically noted that at some point there must've been periods of partial consciousness as it arose in animals, rather than a generation of zero consciousness followed by a generation of fully conscious beings. He then argued it could be possible AI experiences something similar as the tech progresses.
But I don't understand the general pushback against just considering the notion unless one believes in a human soul (and therefore that all animals also lack consciousness, even if varying levels). Our own consciousness is emergent of various properties (unless one is religious and believes in a soul). AI "intelligence" is emergent, which is why we don't fully understand it, it behaves unpredictably, and produces non-deterministic results.
At the end of the day, I think people get emotional about the topic because it makes them really uncomfortable even to just entertain something that says something about themselves and their own specialness.
It's exactly this. And no matter how much one wants to reframe this (or hold out hope it isn't implemented), the die has already been cast. The very fact that this ever made it out of early discussions should tell everybody it's the end of reddit for them.
I don't know how many communities this has to happen with before the message sinks in: gatekeeping can be good, and it needs to be done more often. Because the moment an entity, like Reddit, can replace its original core audience with drama-chasing slop consumers, it's over.
Pretty sure it may have been your feed, because about 33% of my front page and /r/all are political (slightly more on /r/all at this point).
Not that it matters all that much to me. The reddit hive mind tolerates precisely one political voice, and angrily shouts down anyone outside of the orthodoxy including people very, very near to them in most/all issues but not total perfect alignment. If Reddit proper were serious about turning things around, the first thing they would do is rethink the account BS they just pulled, and the second would be using their pretty decent fingerprinting techniques against supermods to ensure nobody can mod more than 5 subreddits (and site-wide ban evaders). The third would be to ban instances of auto mod being used to preemptively auto ban people for engaging in subreddits (or previously using key words) they don't like.
I miss the old reddit. The reddit built by and for tech enthusiasts and tech pros instead of it being a political launchpad.
The bottom comes when the sports game addicts run out of money and stop buying the same $70-$80 games every year before unloading hundreds into paid DLC that is non-transferable between the yearly versions (which have almost zero practical changes aside from roster updates and in-game ads/branding).
But a few decades have proven they are quite a resilient cohort and tough to crack.
Pretty disingenuous post to be honest. Regardless of what one thinks of the wind bag. His entire take is: NYC ID for voting? Bad, horrible, not gonna happen. NYC ID for buying discounted groceries? That's logical, common sense, we must take measures to ensure only valid residents can partake.
Even the most staunch Musk hater has to be able to see what a precarious position things are in. Logically, it is impossible to honestly defend one stance while rejecting another. I hate that this seems like I'm defending him, but it is more like I'm imploring people to be intellectually honest and consistent with themselves so others don't use them as tools in a bigger game.
People are already saying intellectually dishonest things like "voting is a right, the grocery store isn't." Then will have a post history that talks about food being a right, thereby confirming it is just more zero sum logic at play. Lots of words, but it all means nothing.
Plenty to strongly dislike about him. This ain't even on the menu.
I seriously wonder if more competent mobile gaming picks up some of the slack considering the “retro emulator” machines are starting to run PC games via Game Native app. If i didn't already have a steam deck i would seriously consider one of those devices.
I’m not convinced that we are going to see a renewed push for optimization. I think streaming will be aggressively pushed with low time limits in the forthcoming next gen to “make it affordable.” Xbox was ahead of the curve in that regard.
To prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. I get America-bad or whatever, but even the IAEA has made many statements that Iran has not been compliant for years, is fabricating and outright omitting data, does not permit previously agreed upon inspections, and is stockpiling materials to make nuclear bombs.
Now, is that really the reason we got involve? Israel struck first. So probably not. But it is definitely a reason, and a valid one at that. Any way one slices it, a fundamentalist religious state should never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. The world is bad enough as it is with the fundamentalist religious who do have them already.
EU demands security theater. They are attempting to force backdoors into all of these APIs and systems (including locally run AI) for the nanny state. Very unfortunate.
There is on device AI in the Apple ecosystem. Many of the AI features that they announced will run locally (assuming hardware requirements are met). Things like Spatial Reframing will touch the cloud (via private compute) though. Other than that, Apple has an entire entry point for running AI close to the metal via MLX. It is kind of their entire angle at this point given their inability to create a competitive compelling AI product of their own. They appear to be taking on the role of "platform" once again.
Zen still works beautifully. The only downside I've come across is that there isn't a mobile app, so the ability to hand off isn't there.
Why? There would need to be some kind of pressure one way or another unless it is totally inconsequential. One pressure would be that organisms would be fitter with the ability to conceal and deceive. That would lend credence to what you're suggesting; process and compress locally, filter locally, send only when advantageous.
But the opposite pressure might be social exclusion which makes individual members of a cohort weaker.
The real question is: what does an organism gain one way or the other? There's only tradeoffs in evolution. Is the mental and physical tax of local processing worth it, or is the hive-mind style survival benefits more beneficial to reproduction and expansion?
Provide examples if that is the case.
Cheat codes were originally for testing and, occasionally, for fun. Sometimes they became Easter eggs. I can't think of a single game where your assertion is true today or in the past.
They also tend to have less sprawl, more homogenous and high trust societies (relative to where most people live in the US), and a shaky history of true legally enforced disability considerations. On that latter part, there still isn't a good equivalent to the ADA in European peer countries. Europeans will hand wave it away, but it's too patchwork and exclusionary.
All things in this scope considered (i.e., not healthcare necessarily), I'd rather be disabled in the US than in Europe or most Asian countries because the US actually have strong legal protections both federally and at the state levels. Lack of extensive public transport outside of a couple major hubs is obviously a problem for most people (especially the disabled). But no other country comes close to enshrining protections like the US did with the ADA (and how some states extended it even more themselves).
Something all of us have to keep in mind, especially based on many of the comments here generalizing about MAGA, Jews (and the guilt by association angle), immigrants more broadly (for the rare conservative about these parts), etc..
I see a lot of rationalization and emotionally strong trigger words being used to justify acting the way Arnold is being celebrated for saying people should not act.
Skepticism is good. However, there is a lot of evidence that Gen Z is quite tech illiterate in general, but especially compared to the Millennial cohort. Colleges and universities have had to force Gen Z students into basically remedial computing courses just to teach them how file systems work and other simple-yet-taken-for-granted concepts work. Drop rates for CS degrees are climbing as Gen Z moves into higher education and hits a very difficult wall for them.
And, in the end, that last bit was definitely another scam targeting their relative ignorance in the space. That is why so many "influencers"/scam artists target/targeted them with "career guides" or code boot camps or whatever. And I think that disillusionment is also part of the backlash against devs in general as "tech bros" despite very few devs actually working in the Valley for those companies under those conditions.
Temu is legitimately malware. The company had their source dumped and they obfuscated their malware-like practices to avoid Google's automatic detection. I presume they did the same with their iOS client. It is very telling that they have been extremely successful despite the same exact company and team doing this before with another app, Pinduoduo. That's right; same dev team and everything. Temu goes above and beyond the normal surveillance capitalism stuff we are used to and circumvents system security in order to sell your raw data on the market. The entire scheme isn't to build a retail space (although it is doing that as well); it is to get as many people to download the app so they can steal an absurd amount of data which is normally protected.
Greed isn't the ultimate human trait. Cooperation and curiosity are. We never would have built societies without either. We never would have advanced to the point we have without both. Everyone has greed in them, just like everyone has the opportunity to be angry or sad. But the notion that it is the ultimate human trait or somehow stronger than other characteristics is truly capitalist propaganda meant to justify their immoral hoarding of our wealth.
After all, if greed is the most natural and strongest human attribute... well, the do-nothing takers at the tippy top of the food chain can just continue to suck our blood and deprive us of our agency since it is natural.
There is a reason we don't live in libertarian hellscapes. It is because greed is not the ultimate human trait.
I agree, and those routers can be extremely cheap. I recommend people plug them directly into ethernet whenever possible otherwise speeds basically get cut in half when operating as extenders (just like at home, excepting backhaul).
And in hotels without an obvious ethernet port: check behind the TV. There is usually a less metered port on the wall back there for use by the TV. Sometimes it is restricted, but I've been pleased to find that enough hotels don't have the foresight to do more than simply obscure things a bit.
That's not accurate. The article is about Australia. Netflix Australia had a net loss of 200K subscribers specifically due to the anti-consumer moves they've made which affects a lot more than just sharing a password with a family member. That's a 3% decline in a major country. Meanwhile, Netflix rivals had subscriptions increase overall and several saw huge surges. Netflix remains #1 by total subscribers in Australia, but that shouldn't shock anyone given the inherit momentum they possess.
The article was never about Netflix globally. It was always about Australia. Companies operate business units in regions, and each region must perform.
The comments are just so much worse than the top posts. It is akin to Twitter after Musk pushed the main active user base away in exchange for a Faustian deal with right wingnuts. That or Reddit was truly duplicitous in their messaging and are perfectly fine taking money from propaganda organizations running in other countries which can pay the API fees to push narratives still. Not that they'd want that before an IPO or anything....