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I'm probably being generous to MTG and giving her the benefit of the doubt in spite of the fact that I'm appalled how "her people" are limited to white, American Christians. But my generous take on it is that she originally didn't know that the wealthy elites among her people were fucking the children among her people and once she realized that, she rebelled against it.

I'm don't know her or anyone who knows her so I'm just speculating based on the same information as everyone else, but it explains her behavior pretty well.

Of course, that's exactly the point of a surveillance state. It's purpose is total control of the general population and complete freedom from consequences for the wealthy elite. Any rhetoric about it keeping us safe is pure propaganda. People knew this a long time ago, that's why we have the 4th amendment and other privacy laws.

I think MTG is loyal to "her people". She's fine when "other people" are hurt, but Epstein and his co-conspirators hurt white, Christian, American girls. We're seeing more and more people breaking off from MAGA based on their personal principles, like the NRA and other 2nd amendment rights group speaking out against the Pretti shooting.

Donald has no principles whatsoever, he just wants to "win" and demands absolute loyalty no matter what. It looks like some of his supporters are starting to see the con job, or maybe they already did, but they're starting to realize that allying with a man who will betray you as soon as you're no longer useful is a bad strategy.

What's our way forward? I don't know and I'm struggling to figure it out, but the more I get into it, the more I come back to ideas like curiosity, authenticity, and connecting with people outside our comfortable social groups.

I really feel like the world we're living in now is the result of engineered propaganda and the only cure is related to authentic connections among everyday people.

Reverse engineering is theoretically possible, but often very difficult in practice.

I'm not enough of an expert in cryptography to know for sure if packet inspection would allow you to tell if a ciphertext could be decrypted by a second "back door" key. My gut says it's not possible, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

That's sounds pretty close to where I'm at now. Ideally I want a libertarian society, but I don't believe it will work in practice in a lot of areas (like health care or completely unregulated capitalism). On those issues I'm more aligned with the Green Party.

I'm not sure what the "best" solutions are, but I know wealth and power are way to consolidated now and we need to decentralize.

I agree. This is what I've observed: Pride and moral superiority are the primary sources of political extremism. Any attempt to reason in that emotional state is going to be filled with a ton of confirmation bias. Mix in some greed and it gets even worse.

These people have a tendency to strongly identify with their particular brand of ideology and consider any challenge a threat. They label people that disagree as evil or stupid which makes them feel even more certain in their moral superiority. They close their minds to any dissenting opinions and hide in their echo chambers continuing the vicious cycle because being right feels good and being wrong feels bad.

Some humility and genuine curiosity are ways to reverse the cycle.