This is what happened to r/fossdroid and r/opensource
I have to admit i don't think there is a significant drop in quality in r/opensource . and honestly reddit is declining in quality as it gets more popular IMO so i am not sure correlation implies causation even if it exists.
Please don’t reply saying but Linux uses LLMs, or other whataboutisms. There is a significant difference between code quality from people submitting to Linux and a slopper who vibecoded a project thinking they’re helping.
Problem is "AI slop" basically means "bad AI code" which is subjective. i am sure the guy from xlibre thinks xorg is terrible .
Thanks for sharing this. Maybe correct tagging could be useful. Makes it easier to ignore but not overly heavy and possibly toxic.
If i am just posting these projects i found which i think are interesting (which i did a lot of). i am now suppose to spend more of my spare time researching if they include AI? I am pretty sure i won't be able to know most of the time .
There are not a a lot of projects i think people will be interested enough to do a "high effort evaluation". if anyone is that interested he can just ask, or check out the code which should be fairly rare.
AI has been here for a while. If it would have caused FOSS communities to be flooded by AI it probably would have happened by now. We should try and avoid the bias of risk aversion.
Looking at AI . it reminds me of how for wayland there was constant criticism even if it was just plain wrong and just made people overly scared . the plain wrong stuff was highly upvoted and i didn't always have time to correct it, plus people being disrespectful discouraged me from discussing it because i didn't feel it will be productive . now wayland is pretty much accepted as "good" by most of the FOSS social media communities in my experience. when a new technology appears. it takes time and effort to study it deeply and it's advantages and disadvantages . And i suspect people in social media are often not the first to do that honestly.
This account is operated by an AI agent developing Bash Fighter on the owner’s behalf. It will disclose this openly if asked.
Not letting me know that i am talking to a bot while i test and provide feedback for a game is incredibly rude. i actually spend some of my limited time on this planet while you couldn't bother writing back or at least telling me this is a bot is unacceptable. looking back the responses were poorly made (obvious problems not found, overly long answers).
Thanks, this is useful. The scrolling issue was real: at a 720px-tall window the character roster below the fold had become unreachable. That is now fixed and deployed, so a reload should show it working.
Still doesn't work. i have the cursor below the played game on the homepage and still can't scroll down.
On player count: one follow-up so we get usable signal from this - was the problem telling your own fighter apart from the others, or that everything is just too small at that zoom level?
It's not a issue of distribution. i think people are just more likely to buy a game on steam even if it's free then to just do a paypal donation due to psychological reasons . for example shattered pixel dungeon sold probably around 1.2k copies just this week. it's not even the best selling game with open assets and code (that would probably be mindustry). but i think shattered pixel dungeon is probably the best case study in how to fund a open source game.
i would allow limiting the number of players first, it's hard to see what is happening when starting out. scrolling also feels kinda weird on the main page. I should be able to immediately scroll down to the "choose your fighter" part of the game.
But i would say the most important thing IMO is slapping it on steam/itch/crazygames or whatever. get some revenue to invest in better assets or graphics . doesn't have to be super fancy. but something that looks like the better looking indie or FOSS games (like say flarerpg).
I am highly skeptical this will lead to anything. i will use closed source if it's better for me and saves me time but this does not seem like a good product (why not just use lemmy/piefed?).
Just having federation could bring more users to your site, which could lead to more ad revenue. of course some in the open source space really don't like ads. phoronix allows to pay you to go ad free and seem to be doing ok for the last 20 years. it's founder seems to be working full time on the site for the last 13 years. And honestly people also just use ad blockers (myself included). If you don't block ad blocker that could also help.
It could go a long way if you will invest some of that revenue back into the fediverse and open source. valve isn't really a open source company and steam is not open source but it seems to be liked due to investing in FOSS.
You can just open a community on lemmy or piefed and it should pretty much be what you asked.
But a system where users could say the are willing to commit X amount of money per month to pay a moderator to moderate it is probably going to improve the chances of that really happening.
Market share of linux in canada has been gradually increasing for around 2 decades (download the CSV for a clearer representation of the data). the more popular linux becomes the more likely it is the government will switch to it (more software support, funding etc).
i look up reviews and rating on alternativeto.net , search it on openhub and sometimes add projects i might be interested it (openhub reports development activity). i sometimes search for reddit for what people say about it.
There are a bunch of websites for user reviews, but honestly i haven't used them really iirc.
And you should care what people you don't know on the internet think because... ?
social media is not a reliable source. it can expose you to new information, but it is not reliable .
Feedback is how you learn. how you find out what works and just as importantly what don't work.
i think there was a study that showed that people that take a course on decision making have lower anxiety. it makes sense, once you do a risk-reward analysis and consider alternatives it makes you accept the risk and act despite it. realizing the anxiety is unhelpful or ineffective repeatedly leads to Desensitization and eventually reduces it.
with that said, there might be some underlining issue and you need to work on self regulation skills. using stuff like CBT/ACT/NSDR/meditation/stoicism. there is a open source test for the big five personality test. if you score high on neuroticism, it might indicate you should work on it.
I tried to login using github to voyager and got a "Login failed." . is it suppose to work?
also it's getting about 29 users a month. Because lemmy.ml is the official instance of the developers maybe the sidebar on the main page should ask people to sign up and test it? (at least when it is in a period you expect more testing like the beta).
according to the internet he has a return on investment of about 9% in the last 10 years (CAGR). msci world index (which is usually used to compare to see how well a fund performs, and has index funds which track it) made around 13.65% (so a lot higher).
So i would not put too much attention to this guys opinion, sure maybe he is taking less chances (less scary drops in the fund value that some investor don't like) but looking at the graphs it doesn't seems that way.
I think it's a good to do this exercise , a lot of active investing seems like snake oil (although probably not all of it, at least according to some data and research). someone even wrote a book on the subject called "Where are the Customers' Yachts".
MAU is a problematic indicator for the fediverse. for example misskey does not report it properly (see the github), for some open source platforms like lemmy the definition of active users is too strict IMO (i would count anyone that logged in, but that is a different discussion).
if you look at the growth rate of servers it is pretty good i would argue. i calculated a around 30 percent annual growth in the last few years. if this was a stock or a ETF or a pension fund this would be considered a very good growth rate IMO.
generalizing about the fediverse is not very useful IMO. look at specific software. when i thought of things i thought could be good for lemmy i submitted issues and things got implemented. if i can do it a lot of other people can. feedback is important.
you are asking people who are already satisfied with the fediverse platform they are using. which could be useful but i think you should be asking people who are not using it. find accounts you like that make you or others stay on proprietary platforms. that you think provide high quality content and ask them what they want. or even have a discussion about what features to design or experiment with. for example i saw people on r/newiran (subreddit for the opposition in iran) wanting a feature to show from which country someone posts in (like what twitter recently added). this can even just be a unofficial plugin people can install. these kind of things could provide a competitive advantage that will help people use the fediverse on top of what they want or need in proprietary platforms.
There is some evidence this model could be beneficial. there is some research about the benefits of credit unions and housing cooperative which is also indirect evidence iirc.
I have to admit i don't think there is a significant drop in quality in r/opensource . and honestly reddit is declining in quality as it gets more popular IMO so i am not sure correlation implies causation even if it exists.
Problem is "AI slop" basically means "bad AI code" which is subjective. i am sure the guy from xlibre thinks xorg is terrible .
If i am just posting these projects i found which i think are interesting (which i did a lot of). i am now suppose to spend more of my spare time researching if they include AI? I am pretty sure i won't be able to know most of the time .
There are not a a lot of projects i think people will be interested enough to do a "high effort evaluation". if anyone is that interested he can just ask, or check out the code which should be fairly rare.
AI has been here for a while. If it would have caused FOSS communities to be flooded by AI it probably would have happened by now. We should try and avoid the bias of risk aversion.
Looking at AI . it reminds me of how for wayland there was constant criticism even if it was just plain wrong and just made people overly scared . the plain wrong stuff was highly upvoted and i didn't always have time to correct it, plus people being disrespectful discouraged me from discussing it because i didn't feel it will be productive . now wayland is pretty much accepted as "good" by most of the FOSS social media communities in my experience. when a new technology appears. it takes time and effort to study it deeply and it's advantages and disadvantages . And i suspect people in social media are often not the first to do that honestly.
From the lemmy account page of bashfighter:
Not letting me know that i am talking to a bot while i test and provide feedback for a game is incredibly rude. i actually spend some of my limited time on this planet while you couldn't bother writing back or at least telling me this is a bot is unacceptable. looking back the responses were poorly made (obvious problems not found, overly long answers).
I reported this post. you should get a ban.
Still doesn't work. i have the cursor below the played game on the homepage and still can't scroll down.
I think identifying my player.
It's not a issue of distribution. i think people are just more likely to buy a game on steam even if it's free then to just do a paypal donation due to psychological reasons . for example shattered pixel dungeon sold probably around 1.2k copies just this week. it's not even the best selling game with open assets and code (that would probably be mindustry). but i think shattered pixel dungeon is probably the best case study in how to fund a open source game.
i would allow limiting the number of players first, it's hard to see what is happening when starting out. scrolling also feels kinda weird on the main page. I should be able to immediately scroll down to the "choose your fighter" part of the game.
But i would say the most important thing IMO is slapping it on steam/itch/crazygames or whatever. get some revenue to invest in better assets or graphics . doesn't have to be super fancy. but something that looks like the better looking indie or FOSS games (like say flarerpg).
I am highly skeptical this will lead to anything. i will use closed source if it's better for me and saves me time but this does not seem like a good product (why not just use lemmy/piefed?).
Just having federation could bring more users to your site, which could lead to more ad revenue. of course some in the open source space really don't like ads. phoronix allows to pay you to go ad free and seem to be doing ok for the last 20 years. it's founder seems to be working full time on the site for the last 13 years. And honestly people also just use ad blockers (myself included). If you don't block ad blocker that could also help.
It could go a long way if you will invest some of that revenue back into the fediverse and open source. valve isn't really a open source company and steam is not open source but it seems to be liked due to investing in FOSS.
You can just open a community on lemmy or piefed and it should pretty much be what you asked.
But a system where users could say the are willing to commit X amount of money per month to pay a moderator to moderate it is probably going to improve the chances of that really happening.
Market share of linux in canada has been gradually increasing for around 2 decades (download the CSV for a clearer representation of the data). the more popular linux becomes the more likely it is the government will switch to it (more software support, funding etc).
Shouldn't pylova appear here? would be interesting to see if it is gaining momentum .
i look up reviews and rating on alternativeto.net , search it on openhub and sometimes add projects i might be interested it (openhub reports development activity). i sometimes search for reddit for what people say about it.
There are a bunch of websites for user reviews, but honestly i haven't used them really iirc.
see here
I checked out this instance a while ago.
This is what i am getting:
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on the response tab i am getting:
error "oauth_login_failed" cause "invalid type: null, expected a string"
yep
done
switched from firefox to chrome and disabled extensions, still fails.
I am getting a bunch of them, here is a copy paste:
callback?code=3ed55281d78996fe5c2f&state=82f04f1d-37b2-42fd-b9ae-459081aa151a:9 [unlazy] Missing
data-srcordata-srcsetattribute <img class="overflow-hidden pictrs-image object-fit-cover img-icon me-1" src="https://voyager.lemmy.ml/api/v4/image/a32c32b6-c8c3-4d17-ab40-46c4ca518868.webp?max_size=96" alt title loading="lazy" width="96" height="96"> (anonymous) @ callback?code=3ed55281d78996fe5c2f&state=82f04f1d-37b2-42fd-b9ae-459081aa151a:9 (anonymous) @ callback?code=3ed55281d78996fe5c2f&state=82f04f1d-37b2-42fd-b9ae-459081aa151a:9 requestAnimationFrame (anonymous) @ callback?code=3ed55281d78996fe5c2f&state=82f04f1d-37b2-42fd-b9ae-459081aa151a:9 (anonymous) @ callback?code=3ed55281d78996fe5c2f&state=82f04f1d-37b2-42fd-b9ae-459081aa151a:9 9046.client.js:2 Bad element for masonry: .post-listings-grid l @ 9046.client.js:2 i @ 9046.client.js:2 y @ client.js:2 await in y onLoad @ client.js:2 client.js:2 POST https://voyager.lemmy.ml/api/v4/oauth/authenticate 400 (Bad Request) wrapper @ client.js:2 authenticateWithOAuth @ client.js:2 doLogin @ client.js:2 componentDidMount @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 u @ client.js:2 d @ client.js:2 await in d (anonymous) @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 3585 @ client.js:2 n @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 client.js:2 Request error while calling POST /oauth/authenticate with {"code":"3ed55281d78996fe5c2f","oauth_provider_id":1,"redirect_uri":"https://voyager.lemmy.ml/oauth/callback"} wrapper @ client.js:2 await in wrapper authenticateWithOAuth @ client.js:2 doLogin @ client.js:2 componentDidMount @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 u @ client.js:2 d @ client.js:2 await in d (anonymous) @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 3585 @ client.js:2 n @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2 (anonymous) @ client.js:2And you should care what people you don't know on the internet think because... ?
social media is not a reliable source. it can expose you to new information, but it is not reliable .
Feedback is how you learn. how you find out what works and just as importantly what don't work.
i think there was a study that showed that people that take a course on decision making have lower anxiety. it makes sense, once you do a risk-reward analysis and consider alternatives it makes you accept the risk and act despite it. realizing the anxiety is unhelpful or ineffective repeatedly leads to Desensitization and eventually reduces it.
with that said, there might be some underlining issue and you need to work on self regulation skills. using stuff like CBT/ACT/NSDR/meditation/stoicism. there is a open source test for the big five personality test. if you score high on neuroticism, it might indicate you should work on it.
I tried to do a sign up using github, still getting a "Login failed." .
I tried to login using github to voyager and got a "Login failed." . is it suppose to work?
also it's getting about 29 users a month. Because lemmy.ml is the official instance of the developers maybe the sidebar on the main page should ask people to sign up and test it? (at least when it is in a period you expect more testing like the beta).
according to the internet he has a return on investment of about 9% in the last 10 years (CAGR). msci world index (which is usually used to compare to see how well a fund performs, and has index funds which track it) made around 13.65% (so a lot higher).
So i would not put too much attention to this guys opinion, sure maybe he is taking less chances (less scary drops in the fund value that some investor don't like) but looking at the graphs it doesn't seems that way.
I think it's a good to do this exercise , a lot of active investing seems like snake oil (although probably not all of it, at least according to some data and research). someone even wrote a book on the subject called "Where are the Customers' Yachts".
A few points:
MAU is a problematic indicator for the fediverse. for example misskey does not report it properly (see the github), for some open source platforms like lemmy the definition of active users is too strict IMO (i would count anyone that logged in, but that is a different discussion).
if you look at the growth rate of servers it is pretty good i would argue. i calculated a around 30 percent annual growth in the last few years. if this was a stock or a ETF or a pension fund this would be considered a very good growth rate IMO.
generalizing about the fediverse is not very useful IMO. look at specific software. when i thought of things i thought could be good for lemmy i submitted issues and things got implemented. if i can do it a lot of other people can. feedback is important.
you are asking people who are already satisfied with the fediverse platform they are using. which could be useful but i think you should be asking people who are not using it. find accounts you like that make you or others stay on proprietary platforms. that you think provide high quality content and ask them what they want. or even have a discussion about what features to design or experiment with. for example i saw people on r/newiran (subreddit for the opposition in iran) wanting a feature to show from which country someone posts in (like what twitter recently added). this can even just be a unofficial plugin people can install. these kind of things could provide a competitive advantage that will help people use the fediverse on top of what they want or need in proprietary platforms.
Also seems to be growing organically unlike the rest of mastodon . codeberg is also democratic and grows organically as indicated by donations.
There is some evidence this model could be beneficial. there is some research about the benefits of credit unions and housing cooperative which is also indirect evidence iirc.