It is corny (because we hear it so often), but it's true. You don't have to start any movement on your own etc. But plant the seed in other peoples head.
No conspiracy theory, no 'fake news' etc.
I won't agree fully with the Sovereignty movement until I know it's not being used.
But just facts. Maybe it will reach enough ears that someone will decide to do something about it that will start your country to join the movement away from US big tech.
Fuck this guy in particular. One of the wall street scum bags at the same level as a16z. If they think something is good you can bet it’s the opposite.
The office suite is no longer the sole issue. Most now think of 365 as a single purchase license of office apps, along with communications, video conferencing, email hosting, bookings, planner, a tb of cloud storage per user, etc to add on top, for $12/mo.
Its cheap for what you get, at least if you look purely at the dollars since MS will nickel and dime for every single cost possible.
There isnt a 1:1 in the open source world, its multiple tools that need a managed infrastructure to support. Its easy to see how small businesses can fall into the trap.
All the things you listed have much better offerings for free. The place I work for is small and we only use the email, teams and the docs. The rest is other software because 365 is terrible at everything.
Example : open an existing doc. Go to "save as". That prompts you for a new file name as expected. Now go to browse so you can select where you want the file to go... Or don't, just click save and it will ask where to put the file. Then you realize your new filename is gone! You gotta type it twice and the first time doesn't matter at all you can call it dick first. That's like kiddy level software development testing that has not been corrected in over 7 years now! Imagine all the wonderful security things we don't see.
In Spain administrations and companies since years are using LibreOffice and other alternative suites, simply because they save a lot of money with it, apart an easier adaptation for their specific use (FOSS).
Europe has a lot of excelent, oft even better, alternatives to the US Big Tech. Not to use it isn't a tech problem, but a political and lobby one. There are also more and more computer shops selling devices without OS (FreeDOS by default), installing the needed OS on demand.
I upvoted you, because by and large you are right. As a caveat though some people do have office tied up in automated workflows with scripting in some sort of M$-language. In that case you would have technical hurdles in addition to lobbying and politics.
That is the point, there isn't a really perfect OS, it always depends of what you need and what you want to do with it. Linux has a lot of advantages, but also some big flaws which made it not so good for some tasks. It's eg. still not so plug-and-play like Windows for everything, there are too much different distros, not always compatible one with another, apart also some with a deficient maintanance. Due to Windows is the by far most used OS, it has also a way bigger Soft catalogue as any othe OS, even in FOSS and professional apps. Maybe this will change in the future. But on the other hand, as said before, it needs an advanced intervention to turn it in a fast and reasonable private OS.
We were talking office suites, but yeah. Though M$ should have lost the OS wars not against Linux (it was a fledgling OS at the time) but other systems of the day. OS/2 was what a stable win3 should have been. VMS or true64 Unix could do stuff windows server could only dream of.
Yet marketing to pointy haired bosses brought MS the victory, not technical merit.
Well, I mencioned the OS, because I don't know much users of MS Office on Linux. Certainly for servers the best option is always Linux. OK, UNIX, AFAIK Windows is also based on UNIX, it even has still its paleolitic Finger Protocol, even present and usable in current Windows 11 (I don't know why, but there it is).
Write in the command line to demostrate it (a simple hello from me):
finger zerush@happynetbox.com
or type simply finger in the console, which listed the syntax options
You can create a own handle using https://happynetbox.com/, this at least permits an communication system when all other fails.
Nokia and Blackberry anyone? Or how about any of the massive social networks that have been and gone? The downfall of a product or a company used by tens of millions of people is usually caused from within.
what does the 365 package give me that i dont have with a 3 dollar office 2016 key?
also with all this fuckin money, how does he not have a presentable background at either the office or at home? are you this eager to use ai in every second of your life?
according to the internet he has a return on investment of about 9% in the last 10 years (CAGR). msci world index (which is usually used to compare to see how well a fund performs, and has index funds which track it) made around 13.65% (so a lot higher).
So i would not put too much attention to this guys opinion, sure maybe he is taking less chances (less scary drops in the fund value that some investor don't like) but looking at the graphs it doesn't seems that way.
I think it's a good to do this exercise , a lot of active investing seems like snake oil (although probably not all of it, at least according to some data and research). someone even wrote a book on the subject called "Where are the Customers' Yachts".
He has a point, even though it's not a good one: Microsoft sells lots of products in a bundle at a certain price point which is hard to beat if you need all of the products in the bundle.
However, nobody needs even many of the products. Most of the time companies only use a few of them and even then, they often only use some of them because they're bundled, not because they're good.
It's basically "bundle a few good products with a few shitty products so everyone uses the shitty products because they're 'free'". Vendor Lock-In.
People didn't switch to other products since they were "good enough", but lately Microsoft products slowly become so bad that even the laziest people realise they might want to switch.
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Babalugats@feddit.uk · 75 pts · 37d
Europe already starting to test that.. EU digital sovereignity is only really in its infancy with France, Germany and Denmark leading the way in moving quickly away from it. Thanks partly (mostly) to Trump ordering them to block access to ICC.
9 staff members, 6 Judges received sanctions from Trump for investigating Israel for warcrimes.
So it's not just Microsoft.
MasterCard and visa, Google etc.. all slowly going to feel the affects.
Governments around the world are switching to Linux
Credit cards cancelled, Google accounts closed: ICC judges on life under Trump sanctions
French ICC Judge Guillou Claims Trump Blocked His Visa, Mastercard After Issuing Netanyahu Arrest Warrant
stolig@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 37d
The beginning of the balkanization of the internet
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 36d
If we could get a Balkanized USA I'd be so happy
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 31d
The_v@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 37d
That's what Linux had needed for years. The reason Windows took over was because they won the business/government market.
Omce the tools for business/government mature and companies start offering proprietary software compatable with Linux by default, it will snowball.
huey_m@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 37d
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 37d
Let’s hope you’re right and our governments will really start to move away from these evil tools.
I hope my country joins the movement.
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 36d
It is corny (because we hear it so often), but it's true. You don't have to start any movement on your own etc. But plant the seed in other peoples head.
No conspiracy theory, no 'fake news' etc.
I won't agree fully with the Sovereignty movement until I know it's not being used.
But just facts. Maybe it will reach enough ears that someone will decide to do something about it that will start your country to join the movement away from US big tech.
richardwallass@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 35d
TRUMP best success !
SW42@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 37d
Fuck this guy in particular. One of the wall street scum bags at the same level as a16z. If they think something is good you can bet it’s the opposite.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 37d
People are forced to use that at work because there's no option apparently. Open office, libre office... LA LA LA LA..
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 19 pts · 37d
The office suite is no longer the sole issue. Most now think of 365 as a single purchase license of office apps, along with communications, video conferencing, email hosting, bookings, planner, a tb of cloud storage per user, etc to add on top, for $12/mo.
Its cheap for what you get, at least if you look purely at the dollars since MS will nickel and dime for every single cost possible.
There isnt a 1:1 in the open source world, its multiple tools that need a managed infrastructure to support. Its easy to see how small businesses can fall into the trap.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 37d
All the things you listed have much better offerings for free. The place I work for is small and we only use the email, teams and the docs. The rest is other software because 365 is terrible at everything.
Example : open an existing doc. Go to "save as". That prompts you for a new file name as expected. Now go to browse so you can select where you want the file to go... Or don't, just click save and it will ask where to put the file. Then you realize your new filename is gone! You gotta type it twice and the first time doesn't matter at all you can call it dick first. That's like kiddy level software development testing that has not been corrected in over 7 years now! Imagine all the wonderful security things we don't see.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 6 pts · 37d
Free as in freedom, yes. Free as in beer.... Not really. Hosting your own vc infra is not easy and will easily burn through your bandwidth.
Welcome to the "trap" part. This plus the cost of migrating to something else keeps execs who don't know better on the same path.
Really not much different than Cisco at this point and why its still there despite the horrifying licensing and terrible ai integrations.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 37d
In Spain administrations and companies since years are using LibreOffice and other alternative suites, simply because they save a lot of money with it, apart an easier adaptation for their specific use (FOSS).
Europe has a lot of excelent, oft even better, alternatives to the US Big Tech. Not to use it isn't a tech problem, but a political and lobby one. There are also more and more computer shops selling devices without OS (FreeDOS by default), installing the needed OS on demand.
Fribbizz@feddit.org · 2 pts · 36d
I upvoted you, because by and large you are right. As a caveat though some people do have office tied up in automated workflows with scripting in some sort of M$-language. In that case you would have technical hurdles in addition to lobbying and politics.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 36d
That is the point, there isn't a really perfect OS, it always depends of what you need and what you want to do with it. Linux has a lot of advantages, but also some big flaws which made it not so good for some tasks. It's eg. still not so plug-and-play like Windows for everything, there are too much different distros, not always compatible one with another, apart also some with a deficient maintanance. Due to Windows is the by far most used OS, it has also a way bigger Soft catalogue as any othe OS, even in FOSS and professional apps. Maybe this will change in the future. But on the other hand, as said before, it needs an advanced intervention to turn it in a fast and reasonable private OS.
Fribbizz@feddit.org · 2 pts · 36d
We were talking office suites, but yeah. Though M$ should have lost the OS wars not against Linux (it was a fledgling OS at the time) but other systems of the day. OS/2 was what a stable win3 should have been. VMS or true64 Unix could do stuff windows server could only dream of. Yet marketing to pointy haired bosses brought MS the victory, not technical merit.
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 36d
Well, I mencioned the OS, because I don't know much users of MS Office on Linux. Certainly for servers the best option is always Linux. OK, UNIX, AFAIK Windows is also based on UNIX, it even has still its paleolitic Finger Protocol, even present and usable in current Windows 11 (I don't know why, but there it is).
Write in the command line to demostrate it (a simple hello from me):
finger zerush@happynetbox.comor type simply
fingerin the console, which listed the syntax optionsYou can create a own handle using https://happynetbox.com/, this at least permits an communication system when all other fails.
skarn@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 37d
Open Office? 2008 called, they want their office suite back.
Arancello@aussie.zone · 31 pts · 37d
What’s the worst thing you could find on Mars? Microsoft Teams!
warmaster@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 37d
Total Recall 365 MartianPass Ultimate™ + Clippy with 3 Boobs DLC
whats_a_lemmy@midwest.social · 2 pts · 36d
Hear me out ...
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 36d
I pasted
freeman@feddit.org · 23 pts · 37d
lets take that as a challenge!
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 18 pts · 37d
Gee thx Bill, nobody really knew what kind of company Microslop was until you explained it.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 16 pts · 37d
Thats always where things are right before the over leveraging of a company's market dominance makes them less competitive and they fall off 😅
jjlinux@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 36d
"Impossible to replace" 🤣🤣🤣
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 37d
Watch me, bitch.
Tarambor@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 36d
Nokia and Blackberry anyone? Or how about any of the massive social networks that have been and gone? The downfall of a product or a company used by tens of millions of people is usually caused from within.
ksh@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 36d
Deluded
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 36d
Microsoft is doing a good job of doing just that
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 37d
Lol
kepix@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 36d
what does the 365 package give me that i dont have with a 3 dollar office 2016 key?
also with all this fuckin money, how does he not have a presentable background at either the office or at home? are you this eager to use ai in every second of your life?
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 36d
Email and cloud storage basically
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 34d
What I would give to not use outlook or teams...
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 34d
In fact I might just have to quit
SleepyPie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 35d
Security updates - for most IT departments not having these is a non-starter
wiki_me@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 37d
according to the internet he has a return on investment of about 9% in the last 10 years (CAGR). msci world index (which is usually used to compare to see how well a fund performs, and has index funds which track it) made around 13.65% (so a lot higher).
So i would not put too much attention to this guys opinion, sure maybe he is taking less chances (less scary drops in the fund value that some investor don't like) but looking at the graphs it doesn't seems that way.
I think it's a good to do this exercise , a lot of active investing seems like snake oil (although probably not all of it, at least according to some data and research). someone even wrote a book on the subject called "Where are the Customers' Yachts".
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 35d
This is the kind of false assurances you typically hear right before a company implodes like a plastic submarine full of billionaires.
CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 37d
All because they throw it into b2b with teams and ado and windows and whatever other shit they call software.
plz1@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 36d
-Copilot
helix@feddit.org · 5 pts · 37d
He has a point, even though it's not a good one: Microsoft sells lots of products in a bundle at a certain price point which is hard to beat if you need all of the products in the bundle.
However, nobody needs even many of the products. Most of the time companies only use a few of them and even then, they often only use some of them because they're bundled, not because they're good.
It's basically "bundle a few good products with a few shitty products so everyone uses the shitty products because they're 'free'". Vendor Lock-In.
People didn't switch to other products since they were "good enough", but lately Microsoft products slowly become so bad that even the laziest people realise they might want to switch.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 36d
Honestly, from this post title, I thought this is satire; including the name Bill Ackman. I thought this Bill is a satire version of Bill Gates.
tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 37d
context?? sounds desperate
yuman@programming.dev · 1 pts · 37d
SecretiveVault@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 35d
Wow, this guy is a huge piece of shit in general, he has every bad take ever in his Wikipedia
Marija@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 28d
Network effects are incredibly hard to overcome, but history says nothing stays dominant forever.
cytro@mastodon.de · 1 pts · 37d
@Valuy
This words will be the ones that kills Microsoft...