Everywhere we should start changing parking charges to "by the foot". The longer your car is the more you need to pay. That will incentivize smaller, safer cars for people that don't really have any need for something big.
Yeah, and just register it in a database. Like how I gotta pay $100 more in vehicle registration because my car's 50 fucking kg above the lower bracket. People with F350s can pay triple what I do. No, sextuple! Because they can't fit in just one park. Parking inspector puts in the number plate and machine calculates the rest.
I need the length in my car right now. I’d rather charge by weight. I like sedans (currently in a wagon). What I’d like to get rid of is big trucks for no reason
But the cost of constructing parking infrastructure is more directly related to square meters than weight (in HCOL areas especially). Sure more weight means beefier structures and/or pavement are needed, but that tends to average over an area vs a large object requiring a larger investment regardless of whether it’s light or not.
Public transport is currently quadruple the price, double the duration and significantly more unreliable than personal car travel in the UK when travelling with another person.
Unfortunately it's just not viable to traverse major cities via train. I think it can be far better than it is right now but I have zero confidence it ever will be
I've started to ask myself this more and more. Why is on street free parking (or even metered, but in a crowded core area) a value choice we make in our cities?
I'm still chewing on the concept, but once I considered challenging that status quo, it opened a lot of new approaches to what is considered a right vs exploiting the common city resources for individual use.
Green activists in Paris are making a final push to win a landmark vote tripling parking charges for SUVs in a move aimed at tackling air pollution that is being closely watched by other cities such as London.
In final campaigning before Sunday’s vote, the socialist mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, canvassed parents outside a primary school in the 10th arrondissement near the Gare du Nord, where pollution from large boulevards, traffic on small backstreets and a lack of green space had led many residents to call for fewer cars.
An Opinionway poll for Le Parisien this month found that 61% of Paris residents backed raising parking charges for SUVs.
Lucie, 39, a caterer dropping her nine-year-old to school, said: “I get so angry seeing people sitting alone in their big SUVs in traffic in the morning; it just doesn’t make sense.
Diane, a stylist, who travels by electric bike with her two children aged seven and two, said: “I’m voting to send a message that we don’t want cars in general: for air quality, noise, for the climate and even for the overall mood of the city.
Before Paris, Lyon – France’s third biggest city, which is run by the Greens – devised a progressive parking tariff system to incentivise people away from the use of heavy sports vehicles.
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25 Comments
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 79 pts · 2y
Everywhere we should start changing parking charges to "by the foot". The longer your car is the more you need to pay. That will incentivize smaller, safer cars for people that don't really have any need for something big.
BassaForte@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 2y
Nah, square footage instead of length.
IndefiniteBen@leminal.space · 36 pts · 2y
Cubic feet would be better, especially as taller vehicles are more dangerous to pedestrians.
filister@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 2y
Let's ban archaic units like feet and stick with cubic meter.
Plus there are vans, so the more accurate metric would be a cubic meter per passenger.
IndefiniteBen@leminal.space · 1 pts · 2y
Oh yeah I'd prefer metric, but I was just being consistent with the thread, as the actual units are somewhat beside my point.
Now to find why I didn't get a notification for this reply...
BassaForte@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Ah yeah, that's more accurate to what I was thinking
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 2y
Length × Width × Hood Height then?
saltesc@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Yeah, and just register it in a database. Like how I gotta pay $100 more in vehicle registration because my car's 50 fucking kg above the lower bracket. People with F350s can pay triple what I do. No, sextuple! Because they can't fit in just one park. Parking inspector puts in the number plate and machine calculates the rest.
BassaForte@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
That's how we get double decker cars lol
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2y
I need the length in my car right now. I’d rather charge by weight. I like sedans (currently in a wagon). What I’d like to get rid of is big trucks for no reason
ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
But the cost of constructing parking infrastructure is more directly related to square meters than weight (in HCOL areas especially). Sure more weight means beefier structures and/or pavement are needed, but that tends to average over an area vs a large object requiring a larger investment regardless of whether it’s light or not.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 2y
Until everyone buys a hummer EV….
soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2y
Rip EVs then
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2y
As much as I like cars, cars aren’t the answer. Public transport is.
soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 2y
Public transport is currently quadruple the price, double the duration and significantly more unreliable than personal car travel in the UK when travelling with another person.
Unfortunately it's just not viable to traverse major cities via train. I think it can be far better than it is right now but I have zero confidence it ever will be
arymandias@feddit.de · 43 pts · 2y
What about tripling the penalty for driving over a toddler?
https://road.cc/content/news/suvs-8-times-more-dangerous-kids-walking-or-cycling-295527
athos77@kbin.social · 28 pts · 2y
"It's not an SUV unless it's from the US, otherwise it's just a large sparkling hatchback."
Seriously, good for them!
nekandro@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 2y
Good. Why are MY tax dollars being used to subsidize everyone else's parking?
azimir@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 2y
I've started to ask myself this more and more. Why is on street free parking (or even metered, but in a crowded core area) a value choice we make in our cities?
I'm still chewing on the concept, but once I considered challenging that status quo, it opened a lot of new approaches to what is considered a right vs exploiting the common city resources for individual use.
Mr_Blott@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
This is in Paris you numpty
sanguinepar@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Maybe they thought it was Paris, Texas?
deafboy@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 2y
I'd go further. Why would anyone's tax dollars be used to subsidise anything?
Welt@lazysoci.al · 6 pts · 2y
So that healthcare and education, among other things, are more equitable. Taxes are for subsidising a public good.
deafboy@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Parking spaces are public good...
autotldr@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 2y
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Green activists in Paris are making a final push to win a landmark vote tripling parking charges for SUVs in a move aimed at tackling air pollution that is being closely watched by other cities such as London.
In final campaigning before Sunday’s vote, the socialist mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, canvassed parents outside a primary school in the 10th arrondissement near the Gare du Nord, where pollution from large boulevards, traffic on small backstreets and a lack of green space had led many residents to call for fewer cars.
An Opinionway poll for Le Parisien this month found that 61% of Paris residents backed raising parking charges for SUVs.
Lucie, 39, a caterer dropping her nine-year-old to school, said: “I get so angry seeing people sitting alone in their big SUVs in traffic in the morning; it just doesn’t make sense.
Diane, a stylist, who travels by electric bike with her two children aged seven and two, said: “I’m voting to send a message that we don’t want cars in general: for air quality, noise, for the climate and even for the overall mood of the city.
Before Paris, Lyon – France’s third biggest city, which is run by the Greens – devised a progressive parking tariff system to incentivise people away from the use of heavy sports vehicles.
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