Summary
Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell claims Republicans fear criticizing Donald Trump due to threats against them and their families.
He says Trump’s social media attacks provoke harassment, forcing lawmakers to consider costly security measures. This fear, he argues, is eroding GOP support for Ukraine and discouraging opposition to Trump’s policies.
Other figures, including Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney, have echoed these concerns. Elon Musk has also pressured Republicans by funding primary challenges.
Some GOP lawmakers reportedly faced FBI warnings of credible death threats for opposing Trump-backed nominees.
61 Comments
UnexpectedBehavior@lemmy.world · 232 pts · 1y
That's what fascism feels like.
kescusay@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 1y
Yep. Fascism doesn't work without a dedicated cult of personality, and that's exactly what Trump has with his legion of MAGA asshole-idiots who are willing to commit violence for their messiah.
Asafum@feddit.nl · 73 pts · 1y
You're not allowed to say that or invoke Hitler until we're all in gas chambers! You're only allowed to call it out after it happens! You're supposed to believe the liars until people start writing the history of the events!
-Magoos
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Historically, the problem of "this is just like Hitler!!!" has been the way in which it numbs people to the invocation.
That is, in no small part, the appeal among conservatives of calling everyone from Hegel to Whole Foods a form of creeping fascism. Putting every liberal politician (and a fair number of conservatives) in Hitler Cosplay helped diminish the idea of an authoritarian police state to seat belt laws and smoking bans.
The flip side is that stodgy NYT Op-Ed Writers who casually reject that any fascist impulse exists at all. Everyone from Fransisco Franco to Sheriff Joe Arpaio was just interested in Law & Order. The game of explaining why a given genocidal policy or nakedly fascist aesthetic is actually something different, you idiot, you imbecile, goes right up to the point of denying migrant detention camps along the border and mass extermination of Semitic people in the Middle East and trillionaires doing the "Roman" salute are what they clearly appear to be.
In the end
gets you coming and going.
It becomes a casual invective to describe even the most mildly distasteful political views and a "you're just being hysterical" rebuttal to any policy that is quite literally adopting mass extermination.
Nougat@fedia.io · 21 pts · 1y
They can't kill all of us.
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one · 10 pts · 1y
How so? Do you own any guns to protect us?
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
Because if we actually did what they did for the Civil Rights, show up to DC in the hundreds of thousands, they wouldnt have the balls to call the military death squads. Without even entering, we would win. No man is without fear. Everyone is scared. You either allow the fascists to take over or you dont. There is no path that allows a peaceful way forward without action.
earphone843@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 1y
They would absolutely call the military death squads.
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
They can literally try
earphone843@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1y
I mean, that's like 3 or 4 missiles from a helicopter or drone. The US military would logistically have no problem taking out that many people.
WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
No, they absolutely still would. The amount of people means less than nothing. That is absolutely on the table with them.
Carmakazi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Looks like a target-rich environment for raking belt-fed machine gun fire. Tiananmen Square had a lot of determined, angry people show up too.
Might wanna pack more than some picket signs.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 5 pts · 1y
Tiananmen Square had like 1.5m people at one point. Thousands hurt or killed. But that was just army tanks and soldiers.
They didn't have any of the fancy dispersal shit they do now.
Plus if there were ever a march the size of the March on Washington, they'd close access to DC.
No bridge crossings, no ferries, no subways.
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
The Civil Rights protestors didnt care about any of this (though they couldn't care about Tiananmen yet).
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one · 5 pts · 1y
There's plenty more bootlicker MAGA loyalists, who all have enough firearms to equip quadruple their numbers and pacify a crowd double that size. You underestimate their rabid stupidity, which is how these dipshits got into power in the first place. Fuck Trump and fuck MAGA, but dont forget Democrats are all toothless finger waggling pearl-clutchers and allowed this to happen.
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one · 1 pts · 1y
No. Can I have one of yours?
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
What do you think they develop AI for?
Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 1y
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 1y
If the people saying there are death threats against you are the same ones who are supposed to investigate them: There are death threats against you. It just might be a fed holding the gun.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Well, he only just took office this week, and this crop of death threats have been reported for a month or so now. But I absolutely believe that Patel is going to try to return the FBI to its J. Edgar Hoover days of gathering komprimat on every single person in the country. We're gonna need another MEDBURG soon.
krebssteven@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 1y
notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
It's carefully timed and targeted, thus no longer "stochastic"
rayyy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
.... until some of your
acolytesderanged nut cases feel called upon .... - FTFYDrFistington@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y
So then you're saying they need more threats from constituents for supporting Trump?
MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 1y
So if there were threats against them for NOT standing up to him would it cancel the other threats out?
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1y
I'm excited to find out!
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 1y
Tldr: Threats work and nothing will be done until they're more afraid of you than they are of fascists.
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com · 25 pts · 1y
You know, something like this can't happen in the USA because of the Second Amendment. I've learned this from countless of dudes on the internet that screamed endlessly about it, so this must all be a dream. Only woke nations line Nazi Germany can fall for this 🙄
einlander@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1y
Republicans: We're in charge!
Trump and ELon's SS:
Kalysta@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 1y
Fascists are cowards. We know this.
RattlerSix@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Emphasis mine. Why would they give a fuck about someone else's kid? That is how conservatives actually think, including the ones that get fucking elected. It's literally their job and they still can't give a fuck about a thing until it literally happens to them.
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 1y
The MAGA crowd are today's brown shirts. US democracy won't survive this term.
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 17 pts · 1y
Knives are starting to feel extra long at night...
AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee · 16 pts · 1y
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Nothing that cannot be helped or fixed.
AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
What has become of watering the good old tree of democracy? Are those politicians afraid it might be their turn? Tsk, tsk.
BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Pussies
athairmor@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
This is one situation where I think telling someone to “man, the fuck, up” is appropriate.
Protect your family, yes. But, also protect the fucking country. Step aside if you can’t or don’t act the victim when the blowback hits you.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Pretty soon they're going to be terrified of everyone for the same reason. Grow a spine, and do what's right for your country, not Krasnov
WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y
If a death threat makes you back down I want you out of my government. I'd consider it on par with treason or like a soldier going AWOL in combat.
Maybe we should make them more afraid of us than of them? If that's what they're signaling works.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
It's easy. You call him a fat little bitch who sucks at everything and who only won because Republicans are all idiots.
And that's playing it neutral. If you like, you can start leaning into it a little.
Dimmer@leminal.space · 8 pts · 1y
Is that true? I haven’t seen any Republican got hurt physically so far.
officermike@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Is there any mechanism for Congress to hold anonymous votes on topics that might upset the fragile man-baby?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1y
The only thing providing ANY resistance is the fear of what happens if constituents realize their representative killed social security.
There will be no resistance whatsoever for an anonymous vote.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I don't think it would help. They would just pick whoever they thought was most likely to turn. The threat of them picking the wrong person would create a peer pressure effect towards conforming. Much like the Roman army's decimation.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 1y
I suppose fear, anxiety, stress and worry are back to being acceptable only for those not lucky enough to be monied. Moreso. Again. Smh
irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 1y
I mean that's what they asked for. They've seen how Putin operates and Trump has shown great admiration for his methods. So they should assume he would use those kinds of threats and alleged follow-through.
RotatingParts@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1y
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Wait until the threats against them for criticizing Trump and those for not protecting their subsidies and pork barrels cross the equilibrum and start to shift the balance.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Remember when his wife made her cause ‘fight against bullying’
inbeesee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Counterpoint, send credible death threats when they DON'T oppose Trump's policies.
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
They should try that with someone older. I’m 50/50 on whether I fear death or whether to look forward to eternal naps.
GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Where are they going to find someone older than a member of Congress?
KeenFlame@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 1y
When this tension pops,
People are going to start being killed.
Please be safe
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Guess we'll just just have to threaten them even more physically to get the results we want then
ehpolitical@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
All thanks to the greatest, brightest, most powerful, best at everything nation in the world🤪
Hikermick@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I say they fear the media more. In deep red states the primary is the real election. Fox News plays kingmaker
Thteven@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
🇺🇸Nuke the GOP🇺🇲
painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Trump, quick, suck Elon's toes if this is not true.
Omago@lemmynsfw.com · -19 pts · 1y
troed@fedia.io · 17 pts · 1y
Hate to break it to you, but the whole world is "a liberal cesspool" compared to the troll factory infested alt-right forums Xitter et.al.
cowfodder@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Yup. You should fuck off to xitter or truth social if you want your hate speech.