Librewolf is a privacy oriented fork of Firefox, it grabs some setting from arkenfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there's currently a Firefox bug, I didn't see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways...
Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It's not about Privacy, it's about fixing bugs.
How did you get it working? I am using the latest Mint with Cinnamon, Betterbird flatpak with Birdtray flatpak. I setup the directory for my two email inboxes and it displays the joint counter on BT icon. However whenever I open BT it opens BB and gives an error and keeps BB open over anything else.
Dove is a suite of configurations & advanced modifications for Mozilla Thunderbird, designed to put the user first - with a focus on privacy, security, freedom, & usability.
K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.
Interested in info about this and other mail clients on Linux too.
I tried linking my institution’s outlook to kmail. Multiple times. Never worked. Betterbird took the email and immediately autogenerated a working configuration.
There are no "problems" with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.
I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn't supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It's probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn't even know where to start. Maybe I'll do that eventually.
E: I have narrowed this down with journalctl to be an issue with amdgpu. This happenes on Firefox as well, but not other applications somehow. It's something to do with a gfxhub page fault. I'll have to see whether an older kernel version might help.
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kixik@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 1y
Librewolf is a privacy oriented fork of Firefox, it grabs some setting from arkenfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there's currently a Firefox bug, I didn't see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways...
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
fork and arkenfox
kixik@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Thanks !
A_norny_mousse@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 1y
Interesting.
Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It's not about Privacy, it's about fixing bugs.
despotic_machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 1y
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y
How did you get it working? I am using the latest Mint with Cinnamon, Betterbird flatpak with Birdtray flatpak. I setup the directory for my two email inboxes and it displays the joint counter on BT icon. However whenever I open BT it opens BB and gives an error and keeps BB open over anything else.
despotic_machine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y
Thank you, I'll give it a try
Oxidize@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 1y
What you're looking for is Dove:
https://codeberg.org/celenity/Dove
zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
Thank you very much! Will definitely take a look. 🙂
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
Hopefully we can get a Betterbird mobile app one day.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 1y
Try FairEmail. It's the closest thing I've found.
https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/
otter@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
I was looking into k-9 mail and it seemed decent
What stuff did you want to have in a mobile app?
something_random_tho@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.
zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 1y
Will it work with K-9/Thunderbird for Android?
zecg@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
What do you mean "work with", it's a different-ass client? Do you mean if it's possible to import settings?
otter@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
The email servers themselves are separate (ex. Gmail, your school email server, work email server, etc.).
Thunderbird / K9 are clients that let you access the email on your device
So they should all be compatible with each other
zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Ok, duh, you're both right of course; late night/early morning brain fart here 🧠💨
warmaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
No. Betterbird adds random features.
Linearity@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 7d
Interested in info about this and other mail clients on Linux too.
I tried linking my institution’s outlook to kmail. Multiple times. Never worked. Betterbird took the email and immediately autogenerated a working configuration.
jeena@piefed.jeena.net · 2 pts · 1y
Are there the same problems with Thunderbird as with Firefox?
rtxn@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
There are no "problems" with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 1y
I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn't supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It's probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn't even know where to start. Maybe I'll do that eventually.
E: I have narrowed this down with journalctl to be an issue with amdgpu. This happenes on Firefox as well, but not other applications somehow. It's something to do with a gfxhub page fault. I'll have to see whether an older kernel version might help.
asap@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Strange - I'm on Fedora Wayland using the flatpak version without any issues.
easily3667@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 1y
asap@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Yes I use KeePassXC, also from flathub.
CedarA64@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
No issues with the flatpak version on OpenSUSE Leap with KDE Wayland either.
easily3667@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 1y