I know I'm an idiot and I know everyone else is as well, in their own way. So when I call people idiots, I do it as a fellow idiot gently reminding them they are in fact idiots.
I am of different opinion that these folks know they are wrong, but are too egotistic to admit it.
I was taught at an early age to accept mistakes, learn from it and move on. Now I have grown older, I realised that not many people know this, and society also stigmatises someone making mistakes. I think some people refuse to admit to be wrong because either they are too egotistic to accept and learn, or doubling down assertively on the wrong belief as a defensive mechanism from potential public humiliation.
::: spoiler CW: Discussion of death, potential existential dread, potential sophistry by a weirdo
So, okay, the former sentence is something that always fascinated me, because I think it's actually even more complicated. To make it easier to parse and write, consider all of the following with an added "I think" or "I believe" or smth. attached to each sentence:
There is no "you" any more that could know or not know, the very core of subjectivity has vanished. "I will be dead", for example, only exists as a meaningful sentence within language, and the logic of language in reality - there is no "I" that can be dead. I think that foundational contradiction is also at the core of why in psychoanalysis, the idea is, that the unconscious is incapable of forming a reference to your own death. (Related this, the Lacanian thesis, that the unconscious has the structure of language).
The result is: Death does not mean a transition into "nothing", as "nothing" is still "something" - at least as something like a semantic unit. Instead, it is the transition into "Less than Nothing", where the logic of language which is at the core of our ability to fathom reality ceases to exist. The "you" referenced is only existent within references made by others, but any subjectivity that could "not know", "not suffer", "not exist" is gone.
:::
19 Comments
lath@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 1y
I know I'm an idiot and I know everyone else is as well, in their own way. So when I call people idiots, I do it as a fellow idiot gently reminding them they are in fact idiots.
They generally disagree.
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y
Heh, get a load of this idiot.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Same, except they don't just disagree, they are extremely pissed. For whatever reason idiots tend to assume superior status to me in particular.
ryan213@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1y
Tywin is right.
SteveCC@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
https://screenrant.com/game-of-thrones-tywin-lannister-best-quotes/
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Do you know how long it took me to figure out I'm stupid? What am I, stupid?
Oh, wait...
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I am of different opinion that these folks know they are wrong, but are too egotistic to admit it.
I was taught at an early age to accept mistakes, learn from it and move on. Now I have grown older, I realised that not many people know this, and society also stigmatises someone making mistakes. I think some people refuse to admit to be wrong because either they are too egotistic to accept and learn, or doubling down assertively on the wrong belief as a defensive mechanism from potential public humiliation.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 1y
No... I'm quite positive I am stupid.
Bogus5553@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
That’s true, but there’s usually quite a lot of pain when you’re dying.
abbadon420@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Not usually, for many individuals, death is a gentle, peaceful and pain-free event.
Bogus5553@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
That’s uplifting. They say ”for many”, which makes me think that it’s not the majority case though.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Well, this hurt. So, there's that.
SteveCC@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful & difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid.
Philippe Geluck
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
edit: formatting
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I dunno if I trust this image without at least 10% more jpegification
hedge_lord@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
So you're telling me that I have the psychic power to inflict unending agony upon others by just being myself? I'm going to have such fun with this!
1984@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 1y
This should not be upvoted by the Lemmy echo chamber...:)
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Most painful comment so far
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space · -1 pts · 1y
::: spoiler CW: Discussion of death, potential existential dread, potential sophistry by a weirdo So, okay, the former sentence is something that always fascinated me, because I think it's actually even more complicated. To make it easier to parse and write, consider all of the following with an added "I think" or "I believe" or smth. attached to each sentence:
There is no "you" any more that could know or not know, the very core of subjectivity has vanished. "I will be dead", for example, only exists as a meaningful sentence within language, and the logic of language in reality - there is no "I" that can be dead. I think that foundational contradiction is also at the core of why in psychoanalysis, the idea is, that the unconscious is incapable of forming a reference to your own death. (Related this, the Lacanian thesis, that the unconscious has the structure of language).
The result is: Death does not mean a transition into "nothing", as "nothing" is still "something" - at least as something like a semantic unit. Instead, it is the transition into "Less than Nothing", where the logic of language which is at the core of our ability to fathom reality ceases to exist. The "you" referenced is only existent within references made by others, but any subjectivity that could "not know", "not suffer", "not exist" is gone. :::
roguetrick@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y