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c/degoogle · by lopar49@lemm.ee · 1y

DEGOOGLE MEGATHREAD

🔍 Google Search

  1. Leta  
  2. 4get
  3. Searxng
  4. Kagi

📧 Gmail

  1. ProtonMail  
  2. Tutanota  
  3. Mailbox  

🌐 Chrome

  1. Librewolf
  2. Brave Browser
  3. Mullvad Browser  
  4. Vivaldi - partially open source
  5. Floorp

📱 Android Custrom ROMS

  1. GrapheneOS
  2. Calyx 3. /e/OS

☁️ Google Drive

  1. Nextcloud (self hosted)
  2. Filen
  3. Syncthing
  4. Proton Drive

🗺️ Google Maps

  1. OSMAnd
  2. Mapy
  3. Organic Maps

📝 Google Docs / Sheets / Slides

  1. CryptPad
  2. LibreOffice
  3. OnlyOffice
  4. Collabra

📺 YouTube

  1. PeerTube
  2. Piped
  3. Indivious

📸 Google Photos

  1. Ente photos
  2. Nextcloud Photos
  3. Immich

🌐 Google Translate

  1. DeepL
  2. LibreTranslate

📅 Google Calendar

  1. Proton Calendar
  2. Nextcloud Calendar (self hosted)
  3. Tuta Calendar

📱 Google Play

  1. F‑Droid
  2. Aurora Store

🎥 Google Meet

  1. Jitsi Meet
  2. Nextcloud Talk
  3. Signal

🔐 Google Authenticator

  1. Ente auth
  2. andOTP
  3. Aegis Authenticator
  4. Bitwarden

note: do not use the same provider for password manager and authenticator

🗒️ Google Keep

  1. Standard Notes
  2. Joplin
  3. Notesnook

💬Google Messages

  1. Signal
  2. Theerma
  3. Session

⚙️ChromeOS

  1. Linux mint
  2. Debian
  3. PopOS

🗝️Google Passwords (baked into chrome)

  1. Bitwarden
  2. KeePass

📚Google books

  1. Libby

🎶YouTube Music

  1. Qobuz
  2. Tidal
  3. Deezer

🤖Gemini

  1. Duck.ai
  2. Le chat (opt out of data sending) - protected by eu privacy laws
  3. Ollama (self hosted)

🔍Lens Wip 🚧

💳Google pay Wip 🚧

✔️Google tasks

  1. Tasks.org

📰Google news

  1. Host your own rss feed reader eg Readrops

🧑‍🏫Google classroom Wip 🚧

🌎Google VPN

  1. Mullvad
  2. ProtonVPN - free plan
  3. IVPN

I am open to any suggestions or to add an services I missed! Suggestions are especially welcome on services with less than three current options

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78 Comments

lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 1y

Some of those suggestions are not exactly degoogling, in the strictest sense. If you're just going to keep using Google services but through a different frontend, you are not freeing yourself from Google.

That's not to say piped and invidious and Aurora and so on aren't worth using if you absolutely cannot wean yourself away from Google entirely. It's a step in the right direction, certainly.

Still, it might be nice to label those suggestions differently in a list like this, for clarity.

ZeroCool@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 1y
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fossilesque@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 1y
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Sanctus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y (4 replies)

For those of you who want to dump music streaming entirely and go back to audio files Symphony is an open source music player on Android.

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y (3 replies)

another option if you want a hybrid is host a jellyfin instance with your music youbcan even install a lrclib plugin and get pretty good lyrics

Sanctus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Oh? Self hosted music streaming? Thats neat as fucc

jwiggler@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I do it with navidrome. Have been streaming my music from my desktop for the past 3 months. Pretty satisfying. I haven't done the fancy lyric stuff yet though.

Sanctus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

I'll have to try that. I've gone back to straight mp3s on my phone.

Geodad@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 1y (2 replies)
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myrmidex@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It has TOTP built-in for paid accounts.

Geodad@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
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Nonbinary_Sahrah@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 1y
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Pherenike@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Cryptpad for a Drive/Online Office Suite replacement, it's fantastic

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Just started using this. It’s free (for a small amount of storage) and super private. Like so private that if you forget your password, your data is lost forever.

gressen@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I like Firefox Sync. What are my options when moving to Librewolf?

VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz · 16 pts · 1y

You can continue using it.

https://librewolf.net/docs/faq/#can-i-use-firefox-sync-with-librewolf-is-it-safe-to-do-so

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Threema (not Therma)

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Thanks. It’s updated now

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (2 replies)

closer

edit: Threema started as an abbreviation: “EEEMA,” for “End-to-End Encrypted Messaging Application.” The three “E”s were a bit unwieldy, so it became “Threema.”

chickenf622@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Should've gone for a name like 3ema instead in my opinion.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

3nema

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Most KeePass clients have built-in OTP support too. That being said I still prefer Aegis.

slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1y

Aren't Brave and Vivaldi supposed to have blue bullet instead of yellow?

figurine8051@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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rosco385@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y

I initially had problems with Piped, but I've been using PipePipe for ages and have never had an issue.

jojo@toast.ooo · 3 pts · 1y

Floorp mentioned!

stinerman@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y

I would add

  • Proton Drive
  • Proton Pass

To the Google Drive and Google Passwords areas.

Proton Drive also has the ability to view pictures it has backed up, but because everything is encrypted, they can't really sort them into buckets like you can with Google Photos.

Gingerlegs@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)
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VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Just a PSA about Kagi: https://snoo.habedieeh.re/r/ukraine/comments/1gvcqua/psa_the_kagi_search_engine_directly_funds_yandex/

DuckDuckGo has suspended its partnership with Yandex in 2022. https://www.vox.com/recode/22981115/duckduckgo-free-speech-privacy-oops

Steve@communick.news · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Why is that a problem exactly?
Is it just because they're Russian?
Are there some dots I'm not connecting?

VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1y

Yes Steve. Because they are Russian, pay their taxes in Russia and therefore finance the war. They can potentially introduce biases in their search results as well.

Please note that it's just a PSA. Do what you want with this information.

KiwiTB@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Vivaldi and brave are just chrome.

figurine8051@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 1y
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foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y (10 replies)

Wouldn't really recommend threema and would include SimpleX

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (9 replies)

Why not?

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Based around a company

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y (7 replies)
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lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y (3 replies)

What’s wrong with threema?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)
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lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but how is signal any less centralised?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y
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foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Where did you found that SimpleX was for profit?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y

Oh sorry didn't go very deep

totallyNotARedditor@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

For news/RSS feed I've been using Readrops that is available in Fdroid https://f-droid.org/packages/com.readrops.app

rosco385@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

I've been using Feeder for RSS and am fairly happy.

I wish there was a way to group articles by topic. At the moment I have to scroll through pages of articles about the Pope's death.

Khlo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Is Cryptpad really the best docs alternative? I'm looking for something to replace docs, it's one of the last things I need to degoogle.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

I tried it and it’s pretty good. I don’t know about storage limits or anything like that, but it gets the job done.

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Might also add Collabora, it's libreoffice, but allows online collaboration and has the nicest integration into nextcloud, imo.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (6 replies)

It is paid and/or open source

73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y (5 replies)

It is free and open source. https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online

Download via F-Droid needs additional repository: https://www.collaboraoffice.com/downloads/fdroid/repo/?fingerprint=573258C84E149B5F4D9299E7434B2B69A8410372921D4AE586BA91EC767892CC

"NOTE: main server is offline, you’ll see the message that you’ll add a mirror, that’s expected. To make it skip the main server, open repo details and toggle off first collaboraonline.com entry." (https://forum.f-droid.org/t/known-repositories/721)

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

hiya, when i try and download it from windows, it is paid. When I try and use it online I have to request a demo. What am I doing wrong

73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

That's weird. At least for Linux and Android it was free, last time I checked.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Oh maybe it’s different? But when I go to windows I takes me to the Microsoft store and it’s 13£

Jason2357@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y

Collabora makes a bunch of products, and tries to monetize them in various ways. The desktop apps are basically just a Libreoffice derivative and not really worth your time IMO, but either find a provider with both Nextcloud + Collabora Online installed, or self host them, and it's a fully free and open source alternative to the whole Google Drive and Google Docs platform.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

I’ll have to check this out

Jason2357@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y

Nextcloud paired with Collabora is awesome! (Might be just be called "Nextcloud Office" depending on how it's packaged up, but it's the same thing). With Google Docs, you have drive, but the "files" it syncs for your Google Docs documents are just links to open Google Docs in a web browser, you need to manually export them if you want real files. With Nextcloud/Collabora, you literally have .odt or .docx files synced to your computer, but you can open them online with Collabora and have a full "google docs" or better collaborative online interface. Make a change, and the .odt file on your hard drive changes. You can work or collaborate in Word, Libreoffice, or in the web browser with Collabora on the same files (synchronously, only with the latter, but asynchronously with any of them - with the obvious caveat that slight formatting differences will always happen with different applications so keep your collaborative documents simple). It's brilliant, and the interface is more feature-full than google docs too.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (10 replies)

I’ve been looking at https://www.openphone.com/ as an alternative to Google Voice. It’s not free (but that may be a bonus), but it does let you port your GV number into their system.

$19/mo.

It’s the closest I’ve found to a replacement. I’d love to hear anyone else who uses something similar.

TurtleTourParty@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

If you don't need the business features, I use jmp.chat for $5 a month.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

Can you transfer in your Google Voice number? I don’t want to lose it.

You can also port your current USA or Canada number in to JMP after signing up with a temporary number from above.

Looks like a good alternative. Thanks for the suggestion.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Can anyone vouch for this? Is it open source? What is it’s privacy policy

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

https://www.openphone.com/privacy

I’d love opinions on it, too. Or alternatives.

ncoca@social.coop · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

@Zachariah @lopar49 I used Openphone a few years ago, and it was terrible. Lots of SMS never came through, didn't work for OTPs (even though they claimed it would), terrible customer service. Despite it being more complex technically, JMP.Chat is much, much better.

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

Thanks for the input. I’m saw it looked a bit more complex, but that shouldn’t be a problem for me. I’d much prefer something reliable.

stinerman@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

The only thing I use Google Voice for is being able to reply to text messages on a browser. Is there something I can use for that?

n3m37h@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y

Futo keyboard has voice to text with the ability to download more language models

Zachariah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I guess I should have said why I’m considering them.

https://updates.openphone.com/introducing-the-openphone-web-app-133882

Looks like they’ve had web based messaging since 2020.





My main use for Google Voice is as a filter for places that need my number. Then it’s not ringing my phone (unless I want to).

I did also make sure any alternatives I’m considering do messaging. Even better if it’s both in browser and in phone app.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

Looks good! I’ll add it to the list. Google voice and google pay are by far the hardest to replace

CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al · 2 pts · 1y

Saved! This is an excellent resource thanks so much

Twanquility@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 1y

Nice. Notesnook is great for sync between pc and phone, but I don't know the others. Thanks!

Jason2357@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

This really could use some clarification on what category these belong to. Most of these projects are open source projects where you can either self-host the tool, or choose from one of many free or paid instances online. If someone lacks the technical skill, hardware, or time to self-host, they should shop around. Often there is an "official" instance by the developers, but that's not always the best option. Sometimes a paid option with more resources is going to be more stable and performant.

Other suggestions are individual companies services, and a couple of these are just applications you install on your device. It would be helpful to readers to clarify.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 1y

Feel free to do it yourself

WalnutLum@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Would it be better to replace Gemini with a local model run through ollama or something?

lopar49@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

Yes, but unless you have god hardware it won’t be a direct replacement ):

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Is there a graphene option for is broke folk? I'd love to move away from android but it only works on phones I can't afford.

d3lta19@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y

Pixel 7a is still supported for 3ish more years and can be had refurbished for like $200. Still a solid phone as well. My daily driver.

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

lineage os has a pretty extensive device support or in theroy you could compile base android with none of the spookieness or bloat.

HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 1y

I guess pixel 9a would be the best choice or a supported older model

beachsquid@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (8 replies)

Any iOS alternative to Google Tasks?

lopar49@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

Maybe anytype

lopar49@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)

After further inspection, I would recommend Joplin for most private

beachsquid@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Thanks for your tips :-) I have been trying both Anytype and Joplin, and might use either, but they seem to be primarly note apps not task/todo/reminder/list/priority apps.

Your first links looked interesting, so I will do some research on them.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

Would you be willing to pay? Some of the apps aren’t currently being developer unfortunately

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

Maybe omni focus?

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/to-do-list-by-minimalist-task/id993066159

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

Maybe a Joplin? Sorry this is a kinda half arsed andwer I’ll be back with a better one in a mo

lopar49@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/everdo-gtd-and-to-do-list/id1460386981

iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
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LukaFLBernaudeau@europe.pub · 0 pts · 1y

Ecosia Browser

TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Someone please help me find a browser that has the Chromium gestures.

I want o be able to pull the URL bar down to go into the tab selection screen and pull the page down to refresh, and all the Firefox based browsers are so different it drives me crazy and I go back to chrome or brave.

lopar49@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

Brave I think If not then ungoogled chromium